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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 02 2008 01:44 GMT
#1
This is my takehome test that is due tomorrow. Unfortunately, I do not know how to do any of these... Explanations on how to integrals would be greatly appreciated. I am working on these on my own, and would like ideas, or someone to talk to on AIM or something to discuss how to do these.


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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
April 02 2008 02:05 GMT
#2
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Do you really want chat rooms?
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
April 02 2008 02:17 GMT
#3
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Do you really want chat rooms?
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 02 2008 02:20 GMT
#4
ROFL. Those are EPIC.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
April 02 2008 02:22 GMT
#5
That last one is exclusive content btw (made it myself).
Do you really want chat rooms?
doob10163
Profile Joined April 2008
6 Posts
April 02 2008 02:28 GMT
#6
Thanks guys. This is the friend that Raithed posted for


I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, and 14 done

Not quite sure how to go about the rest of these. Any ideas?
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-02 02:42:08
April 02 2008 02:40 GMT
#7
The flowchart should help with some of them. Remember, sin^2 = 1 - cos^2 and cos^2 = 1 - sin^2. That means if a power is odd you can

cos^3 = cos cos^2 = cos (1 - sin^2)

then u = sin, du = 1/cos dx.

For the rational ones do partial fractions.

edit: also, you can use http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp to check your work
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doob10163
Profile Joined April 2008
6 Posts
April 02 2008 02:50 GMT
#8
My trig is terrible - for example, I would have no idea how to get about #9.

i did 4 times the integral (sec^2 x) ^2

which then became sex^2 x (tan ^2x + 1)

is this the right approach to be taking? If so , what is the proper next step?
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
April 02 2008 02:53 GMT
#9
damn i wish i had that shit fight/flight posted when i took calc :{
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 02 2008 03:10 GMT
#10
you can do most of these by parts or trig identities

for 9. "which became sex^2x" ahah i see what you did there ^_^
sec^2(x)tan^2(x) function to a power times its derivative
and S sec^2(x) dx = tanx

well at least i'm pretty sure how it is
i forgot all this shitty trig identity integration stuff
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-02 03:12:53
April 02 2008 03:12 GMT
#11
so then you have u = tan, then the derivative of u, du, becomes dx = 1/sec^2 du.

then its the integral of u^2 + 1 = 1/3 u^3 + u

or 1/3 (tanx)^3 + tanx

giving 4/3 (tanx)^3 + 4tanx
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 02 2008 03:16 GMT
#12
you don't need to use u-substitution on that one
right?
doob10163
Profile Joined April 2008
6 Posts
April 02 2008 03:24 GMT
#13
Thanks, fight_or_flight. Do you have any idea on how to go about #5? (Do you have AIM, MSN, or YIM and don't mind me messaging you for help?)
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-02 03:36:01
April 02 2008 03:35 GMT
#14
actually, I should be doing other things besides this, and I have to go home soon. Anyway, I haven't taken calc in a long time so these problems are hard for me too, lol.

Basically I've just been working off my own flowchart to be honest.
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doob10163
Profile Joined April 2008
6 Posts
April 02 2008 03:35 GMT
#15
Thanks anyways
doob10163
Profile Joined April 2008
6 Posts
April 02 2008 03:55 GMT
#16
Any ideas on how to do the 2nd integral of 3, 5, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19?

The second integral of #3 being what happens after you split the fraction and are left with 18x over the denominator
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-02 03:58:37
April 02 2008 03:58 GMT
#17
u = 1+3x^2, du = 6xdx?
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Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 02 2008 04:20 GMT
#18
On April 02 2008 12:55 doob10163 wrote:
Any ideas on how to do the 2nd integral of 3, 5, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19?

The second integral of #3 being what happens after you split the fraction and are left with 18x over the denominator

separate it into 2 fractions
1/(1+3x^2) and -6x/(1+3x^2) after you take out the 3
1st one is arctan
2nd one is function to a power times its derivative
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 02 2008 04:25 GMT
#19
number 5:
u-sub
u=lnx
du=dx/x
x=e^u
then use parts (tabular method)
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 02 2008 04:30 GMT
#20
11 is just trig sub...
it's really straightforward...idk why it's hard?
sec(theta) = sqrt(4y^2+1), dy=(sec^2(theta))d(theta)/2
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-02 04:33:23
April 02 2008 04:33 GMT
#21
If you know how to do partial fractions, then questions like #15 are done by first taking out the 1/3 (it's a lot easier), then factoring out the denominator into x+2, x-2 and x. You assign a variable such as A/B/C to each numerator. Therefore:

A/(x+2) + B/(x-2) + C/x = (x+4)/(x^3-4x), solve for each one and then take the integral of the individual fractions. That's the partial fraction method.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
April 02 2008 04:33 GMT
#22
12. is also easy...
the derivative of -x^2+4x+5 = ?!?
-2x + 4
which just happens to be -2 times (x-2)
oh snap
function to a power times derivative
doob10163
Profile Joined April 2008
6 Posts
April 02 2008 05:00 GMT
#23
On April 02 2008 13:30 Saracen wrote:
11 is just trig sub...
it's really straightforward...idk why it's hard?
sec(theta) = sqrt(4y^2+1), dy=(sec^2(theta))d(theta)/2

What exactly am I substituting for what here?

Thanks for the help, by the way, i really appreciate it.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-02 06:43:51
April 02 2008 06:42 GMT
#24
Well, I'll try and help you a tad before I go to bed.

Since you're not familiar with this stuff, don't try and take shortcuts. Use #17 as an example:

Construct a right-angle triangle with a hypotenuse at sqrt2 and the two other sides as x and sqrt(2-x^2). Using pythagoras, you can tell it's right (x^2 + 2 - x^2 = 2, which is the square of the hypotenuse). Alright now...

using this triangle, deduce that sin theta = x / sqrt2. Therefore, sqrt 2 * sin theta = x, sqrt 2 cos theta dtheta = dx. You still need to replace sqrt(2-x^2) and x^2 in the original equation though, so...

cos theta = sqrt (2- x^2) / sqrt2
sqrt (2 - x^2) = sqrt2 * cos theta

original equation of sin theta = x / sqrt2, deduce that x^2 = 2 sin^2 theta.

Now, plug it all into the formula:

sqrt 2 costheta dtheta / (2 sin^2 theta * sqrt 2 * cos theta)
Simplifies oput to 0.5 dtheta/ sin^2 theta. Integrating this turns out to be -0.5 costheta / sintheta.

But this is a definite integral and the bounds are also changed becuase of the variable change. Using sintheta = x / sqrt2, plug in 1 and sqrt 2 in the place of x and solve for theta. It turns out to be theta = 90 and 45 degrees.

So plug it in... -0.5 [ cos 90 / sin 90 - cos 45 / sin 45] = -0.5 [ 0 / 1 - 1 ] = 0.5

Apologies for any mistakes, it's really late over here. hope this helped.
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