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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 06 2008 05:19 GMT
#21
On March 06 2008 14:09 ATeddyBear wrote:
only if you enjoy it


Well it's a chance to win a ZvP, so of course i do
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
March 06 2008 05:20 GMT
#22
then is noob bashing

lol at your profile
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 06 2008 05:21 GMT
#23
On March 06 2008 13:39 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
COME MY CHILD I WILL TAKE YOU UNDER MY ZvP WING.

my ZvT and ZvZ wings are kind of broken/half retarded.


First what build and unit combinations do you usually use? And if you search for chills vods on ZvP here they will help you a lot.




I normally use:

Chill's 4hatch before gas -> 3base 5hatch lurkerling against FE
12hatch11pool13hatch into whatever the fuck i feel like at the moment vs 2gate and 1gatecore

needless to say, i lose a lot against 2gate and 1gate core
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
March 06 2008 05:27 GMT
#24
Chill's 4hatch before gas -> 3base 5hatch lurkerling against FE

This build fucking destroys me
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
March 06 2008 05:28 GMT
#25
reps ^_^
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
March 06 2008 05:34 GMT
#26
Your ZvT sucks too
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
March 06 2008 05:38 GMT
#27
On March 06 2008 14:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 13:50 grobo wrote:
On March 06 2008 13:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Sec, in middle of game, I'll answer in a moment


alt+tab while SC'ing, that's gosu man.


He paused for a while :p

Quick question before I resume my woes:
If someone joins my 1v1 D game and I don't notice he's D-, and he asks for re after, does that count as noob bashing?

No; "noob-bashing" refers to when you proactively seek out noobs to stomp.

Oh, and just go 12 expo 11 pool, 15 (?) hatch, and just macro like an asshole.

I've seen this odd hydra timing attack that hits the P just before storm finishes so they can't hold their choke if the P FEs.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
March 06 2008 05:47 GMT
#28
On March 06 2008 14:34 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Your ZvT sucks too


I've been working on that, don't worry
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-06 06:09:19
March 06 2008 06:08 GMT
#29
I, Reflex], valiantly offer myself to be your P training partner and mass gaming bud starting tomorrow.
Deal?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 06 2008 06:19 GMT
#30
play me lol

You will suddenly find you are better than you thought
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
March 06 2008 07:07 GMT
#31
when you figure out msg me
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
March 06 2008 07:21 GMT
#32
On March 06 2008 14:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 13:39 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
COME MY CHILD I WILL TAKE YOU UNDER MY ZvP WING.

my ZvT and ZvZ wings are kind of broken/half retarded.


First what build and unit combinations do you usually use? And if you search for chills vods on ZvP here they will help you a lot.




I normally use:

Chill's 4hatch before gas -> 3base 5hatch lurkerling against FE
12hatch11pool13hatch into whatever the fuck i feel like at the moment vs 2gate and 1gatecore

needless to say, i lose a lot against 2gate and 1gate core


Hmm, what you need to do is scout fast so you know how to adapt, i play from like 3 main builds, depending on where and who i'm playing, either Overpool 12h 11p or 9pool 13hatch. The key to zerg is the ability to adapt, you need to scout fast to decide how your going to play, i usually sned my 10th drone to scout, so when my pool or first hatch finishes i know what i am expecting, so now i can decide if i want to take another expo (vs an FE toss) Or switch to a 3hatch tech form, or whatever i feel necessary.

The key is to go in with really no set plan, just a basic build, then you adapt to what he did and progress your game from there. Most of the time i have intentions to 5hatch, especially if he fast expands, but if he doesn't that doesn't mean i lose, it only means i need to adapt my play accordingly.

Also identifying map positioning and possible strategy's based on position you must keep in mind, for example if i get close proximity vs Toss on Python, i won't put it past him to reaver me early on, and they shouldn't put it past me to go 2hatch tech into mutas for the potential to end the game fast. But i don't really like all in strats and i haven't perfected a transition from 2hatch mutas into macro, without doing a significant amount of damage.

If you would like i can post some ZvP reps of mine.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
March 06 2008 08:10 GMT
#33
On March 06 2008 16:21 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2008 14:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On March 06 2008 13:39 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
COME MY CHILD I WILL TAKE YOU UNDER MY ZvP WING.

my ZvT and ZvZ wings are kind of broken/half retarded.


First what build and unit combinations do you usually use? And if you search for chills vods on ZvP here they will help you a lot.




I normally use:

Chill's 4hatch before gas -> 3base 5hatch lurkerling against FE
12hatch11pool13hatch into whatever the fuck i feel like at the moment vs 2gate and 1gatecore

needless to say, i lose a lot against 2gate and 1gate core


Hmm, what you need to do is scout fast so you know how to adapt, i play from like 3 main builds, depending on where and who i'm playing, either Overpool 12h 11p or 9pool 13hatch. The key to zerg is the ability to adapt, you need to scout fast to decide how your going to play, i usually sned my 10th drone to scout, so when my pool or first hatch finishes i know what i am expecting, so now i can decide if i want to take another expo (vs an FE toss) Or switch to a 3hatch tech form, or whatever i feel necessary.

The key is to go in with really no set plan, just a basic build, then you adapt to what he did and progress your game from there. Most of the time i have intentions to 5hatch, especially if he fast expands, but if he doesn't that doesn't mean i lose, it only means i need to adapt my play accordingly.

Also identifying map positioning and possible strategy's based on position you must keep in mind, for example if i get close proximity vs Toss on Python, i won't put it past him to reaver me early on, and they shouldn't put it past me to go 2hatch tech into mutas for the potential to end the game fast. But i don't really like all in strats and i haven't perfected a transition from 2hatch mutas into macro, without doing a significant amount of damage.

If you would like i can post some ZvP reps of mine.


I dont think your zvp reps would help very much LOL OWNED

gl though shallow keep going at it
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
March 06 2008 08:20 GMT
#34
i hate zvp as well. fuck you protoss and your corsairs and dark templars and storms and archons and reavers.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
March 06 2008 13:56 GMT
#35
ZvP is the simplest Zerg matchup to learn. If you understand ZvT fundamentals, it won't take long to understand ZvP.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
March 06 2008 14:48 GMT
#36
-___- zvp is the only reason why i dont play zerg.
Everytime i lose my overlords to corsairs i want to throw a car at someone.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
March 06 2008 15:07 GMT
#37
ooh someone needs anger management

and lessons.
XK ßubonic
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
March 06 2008 15:13 GMT
#38
On March 06 2008 23:48 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
-___- zvp is the only reason why i dont play zerg.
Everytime i lose my overlords to corsairs i want to throw a car at someone.

Everytime a lone ninja scores 26 drone kills, or a protoss attack fails, yet he gets off 2 storms on my eco line and we are even, if not giving him the edge.

I know how you feel. Battle through it!!!

OVERCOME ALL, when all else fairs scourge a sair and nuke a kitty.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
March 06 2008 18:32 GMT
#39
I feel your pain, brother. I played a zvp on python yesterday where he 2 gated, and I got a large advantage with a 3 lurk rush into his main, slowing him down completely. At this point I got lazy and figured I could kill him just by rallying groups of hydra to his main while microing poorly (boy was I wrong). Little did I know he managed to sneak an expo in the 3 main,which I figured i could just ignore (wrong again). after several dt drops and successful zeal raids on my expos, i was too pissed to even play anymore and just gg'd. i feel like there is no leeway for mistakes at all when playing as zerg, while the other races have so much more elasticity. it's frustrating as shit sometimes.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
March 06 2008 22:27 GMT
#40
msg meeeeee=D my pvp and pvt are c/c+ but my pvz is like D+ lolol
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