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Kartrider Woes.

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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-09 13:53:55
December 09 2007 13:46 GMT
#1
I don't know if any of you still play kartrider, but I do occasionally. It's nice that I can play a race for 2 minutes to kill some time and then go on to something new.

Anywho, I've concluded that even after all my practice, I still suck at drift. Well, not exactly suck, but I'm clearly missing some fundamental principle. I think I understand perfect drift, I can double-drift and cut my drifts pretty cleanly, and I've just added chain drifts (3 or more drifts in 1 turn) to my bag of tricks, though I'm still sloppy with chain drifts.... In team speed and single speed I usually come in 2nd-4th (depending on competition) with 1st place finishes vs sloppy players.

So, why do I suck at drift? Hm. The simple answer is that drifting slows me down. I do time trials to gauge where I'm at when there's no one around to bump me and today I decided it would be a fun experiment to do a trial on every map without drifting unless absolutely necessary to avoid ramming a wall on a pin-turn. I did use boosts if I happened to build up a meter. I sorta expected to beat my times on the easier maps, what astonished me was that I beat my times on every single map, including Zig Zag!

The results were staggering and revealed to me just how poorly I drift (using Cotton E2, top speed on flat ground = 186):

Fright Fight -- 1'53'47
Shark's Fin -- 1'55'51
Penguin Town -- 1'59'52
Ice Cave -- 1'58'75
Arc Enemies -- 2'04'92
Rivera Rift -- 1'35'20
Oasis -- 1'49'43
Bizarre Bazaar -- 1'48'93
Woodland -- 2'04'19
Basil Road -- 2'17'90
*Hidden Monastery -- 1'54'50
*Freeway -- 2'28'95
*Pyramid Mesa -- 2'02'05
*Zig Zag -- 3'10'85

'*' denotes a map I didn't expect to get a best time with.

Now, I've beaten all of the above times in team-speed, and the Pyramid Mesa time I know I can beat in single on an inconsistent basis, but I'm so ashamed! What fundamental point am I missing about drift?

I dunno if any of you are in ProTL, A1, or some other gosu clan, but if y'all could point me in the direction of some resources that explain what drifts are bad (net loss in speed) and what drifts are good (net gain in speed), that'd be great.

I'm seriously considering not drifting in my single-speed races from now on... -_-"

J/K... drifting's too fun! ^_^ ....but I would prefer drifts that improved my time, rather than ruined it.

GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51512 Posts
December 09 2007 17:54 GMT
#2
Jeez, my NA KR didn't even work anymore so I uninstalled it
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LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-09 19:41:00
December 09 2007 19:31 GMT
#3

Generally I play kartrider to chill or to relax since its not a very intensive game.. for amateurs like us.

I played it for like 2-3 weeks and I can usually come top 2 in any mutiplayer speed race. Thats pretty good, my best maps are zig zag and freeway and our times are pretty similar.. pretty hard to improve after learning the best lines / drift points, cause double drifting is hard as hell and some koreans they drift the straights .. -_-..
call me moxie
snes.tq
Profile Joined August 2007
United States46 Posts
December 09 2007 20:24 GMT
#4
kartrider is for fun, dont take it serious and you play 10x better.
http://entropyzero.org/
Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
December 10 2007 01:29 GMT
#5
Considering that you can double and link cleanly, those times are definitely not so good... especially if it's an E2.
The problem is probably the line you take, you're not sticking to the wall close enough, didn' turn early enough, etc. Even if you double drift, you should still stick close to the wall and turn with correct timing. There are times when it is better to short drift or just do a single drift instead.

I think the best solution is to easyplay until you can find fast lines to take. Good luck!

and what's your ign? we should play sometime
The World God Only Knows
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
December 10 2007 02:47 GMT
#6
I found a video that shows me what I should be doing and what I shouldn't be doing. At least one of my problems is definitely my lines. I'd gotten used to taking lines that avoided contact with other racers, but they weren't efficient at all.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2440310105348010297&hl=en

Should help once I get used to recovering from bumps. While I was looking things up I found out "link" boost is a very specific term and I've been misusing it. Its not something I do. I double, and I'm getting better at multi, but still not cleanly enough to pull off a linked drift.

IGN is Tizadio
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