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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43778 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-13 07:44:15
September 13 2007 05:55 GMT
#1
I just watched BackHo's games vs sAviOr. The first one on Python reminded me so much of myself it hurt. Of course a much better me, playing a much better opponent but even so, the same mistakes. He did a fast expo, scouted sAviOr going fast lair and therefore without more information went for a few sairs with goon support. It's logical. It's a mistake, but it's a very logical mistake, one that I always make.
Thought 1
The sairs are useful and can buy time vs muta until the goons arrive. If you pump goons then the muta can't do any real damage.
Thought 2
If he goes lurks then the goons will break out in no time, but I'll need obs to exert map control. My FE gives me a short term advantage but I need to push quickly.

Consequence
Stargate, mass goon and fast robo. No archives. At this point the muta have been repulsed and you're moving out vs lurks. But he's going mass hydra. You need a counter. You need it quickly. You have robo, you quickly throw down a support bay. It's logical. Reavers are a perfect support unit for goons.

Huge Fuck Up
Somewhere along the line your thinking changes. Whereas normally you'd fight hydra with stormers and speedlots you've had a paradigm shift. You know you need to go stormers. You sit there thinking you must. But you've never got the gas because you're always pumping goons and you can't make zealots because somehow you still haven't got zealot speed. And a change occurs. On some level you start to believe if you could just make enough goons it might just work. In your mind you know you need storm, but in your heart you want to believe the goons can do it. You lay down gate after gate, upping it to 9 gates off your main and nat. You take an island. You keep those reavers coming, providing slow but effective support. Nothing can beat you. Goons are like the ultimate unit. 20 damage!!! EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE!!!(fuck yeah!) Kills shit on the ground!! Kills shit in the air!!! Decent range!!! There's nothing dragoons can't take, if you could just build enough of them.
And before you know it you're late game, your grades are 1-1-1, you still haven't researched psi storm and your pure dragoon army is waiting for those reavers to crawl across the map. And that's when the pure hydralisk attack from every side in huge numbers. I lose game after game to this. BackHo demonstrated it flawlessly. I don't know what it is that makes players think pure dragoons are good PvZ. I don't know how we get there. But we do. Even at a pro level players still fall into the trap which gets me over and over. And that is why when I saw sAviOr tear through the huge army of pure goon as BackHo didn't even have an archives 20 minutes into a PvZ I knew I loved him. For me BackHo is hope. I look at him and I think "sure, right now I'm being owned by noobs on ICC because of that basic mistake but if I stick with the goons one day I could be owned by Savior on live television with it".

But there's more to him than pure dragoon PvZ. For shortly afterwards I saw another game of him against sAviOr. And I discovered BackHo has two modes, not one. That's right, not only has he pure dragoon, he has no dragoon.
In game two BackHo did not make any dragoons. Realising his earlier mistake he purposefully avoided them. Early game we had sweeping armies of speedlots. Then we added copious amounts of stormers. By the late game we had speedlots, stormers and archons. The lack of dragoons was so obvious that sAviOr left a overlord following his army and whenever he added an observer he'd cruise a scourge in to kill it. That overlord didn't take a scratch. Every now and then a scourge would be stormed on it's approach to the observer but that was BackHo's only gesture towards anti-air. Time and time again the army of zealots swarmed into the lurkers, then retreated as BackHo realised they weren't very good at that. Over and over they failed to do any noticable damage to ultralisks as he replaced the fallen zealots from 12 gateways. This is a man who doesn't care what his opponent does. He doesn't see the need to react to them, he's got his game plan and he'll do it regardless. Pregame someone toggles him to either Dragoon = 1 or Dragoon = 0 and he'll play it out. He'll push his opponent to the limit with dragoons, or without, but no half measures.
It may seem that this is a weakness, indeed it could be argued that it lost him two games vs sAviOr from relatively strong positions in each. But we should not consider these as losses. Not for BackHo. A loss would be when he goes against his arbitrary rules and makes a functional army. For him victory is the knowledge that he somehow has a progaming contract despite sabotaging his own game.
And one day, when you all least expect it, he'll strike. And he'll use a mixed army and nobody will be able to equal him.

And that, more or less, is why I love BackHo. Oh, and there was that game that Pusan tried to lose over and over but BackHo just wouldn't let him. BackHo plays to nobody's rules but his own. Pusan can sacrifice 9 gateways for no strategic reason, Pusan can throw away as much of his unit production as he likes but if BackHo has decided he's going to lose then he's going to lose and nobody can change that.

Dragoon = 1


Dragoon = 0


Stop fucking up and take the damn win, Pusan!


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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
September 13 2007 06:43 GMT
#2
ahahaha fun read.

I keep thinking he should put an "L" after the B.
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
September 13 2007 06:55 GMT
#3
ROFLLL this entry was fucking hilarious, nice job kwark
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43778 Posts
September 13 2007 06:59 GMT
#4
Thanks.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 13 2007 07:33 GMT
#5
LOLOL Omg
nice write kwark!
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
September 13 2007 07:50 GMT
#6
Yeah, that was brilliant Kwark. Awesome write-up!
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
September 13 2007 11:55 GMT
#7
awesome post man
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
September 13 2007 13:09 GMT
#8
funny, i just think that backho sucks (for the exact same reasons you gave ). God those 2 games vs savior made me hate him... agjh
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
September 13 2007 14:21 GMT
#9
cool, im gonna use this to up my post count
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8887 Posts
September 13 2007 17:32 GMT
#10
Hahahaha, awesome blog Kwark =]
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Auspicious
Profile Joined August 2007
United States175 Posts
September 13 2007 17:54 GMT
#11
I actually like BackHo...lol

He had some crazy innovative PvZ games on Luna I remember but I haven't followed him since then so I donno
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TeRRan`UseR
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada692 Posts
September 14 2007 08:26 GMT
#12
Wow, Saviour is just slouched back in his seat so relaxed.
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Elwood Blues
Profile Joined February 2007
United States261 Posts
September 14 2007 22:09 GMT
#13
Ahaha great read, Kwark. The logic that dictated BackHo's play is oh so familiar.. My favorite kind of player is the one who either knows he has a big flaw or is in the process of fucking up and then reacts by trying to spin it off as an advantage and put all their money on the hand they're playing with. Win or lose, makes for some interesting games
move over rover, let jimi take over
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
September 16 2007 23:20 GMT
#14
write more, the toggle part was xtra funny ^
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Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
September 17 2007 02:04 GMT
#15
That's 20 FUCKING EXPLOSIVE DAMMAGE!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 17 2007 16:03 GMT
#16
nice
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
September 17 2007 22:49 GMT
#17
I thought to myself: "Hold on a second... there's a BackHo fan?!"

LoL!
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
September 19 2007 09:44 GMT
#18
Kwark, I came very, very late to this post, but it was awesome.

Had me in stitches.

hahah still laughing
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Spyder
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
176 Posts
April 16 2008 15:54 GMT
#19
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought to myself: "Hold on a second... there's a BackHo fan?!"

+1 now you should write: ''I thought to myself: "Hold on a second... there are BackHo FANS?!"

i like him and like any other extraordinary player he will come from nowhere and crush everyone, just like anytime did
Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
April 16 2008 16:25 GMT
#20
Hilarious and well written. Very enjoyable! :D
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43778 Posts
April 16 2008 17:38 GMT
#21
I suppose I ought to update/rewrite this after today. But to be honest it was absolutely standard from him. Against GGPlay he rolled his build dice and it came up 'speedlot and archon timing attack'. A build more commonly seen in PvP (BackHo uses the same dice for all matchups) but whatever, it can work PvZ. And then he stubbornly refuses to change. GGPlay responds with mass hydra and cracks and it is only due to BackHos ridiculous micro and multitasking that he even holds his own throughout the midgame. It creates the laughable situation where GGPlay gets hive tech but realises that it's actually a bit redundant because his hatchery tech is working at the moment and unless BackHo actually changes his unit mix to counter that he really has no need to go ultraling. I mean really he's a legend. He decides how the game is played and the opponent can go fuck themselves. And if he wants to play with zeechon then that is that. In other stubborn areas we have the absolute refusal to cannon his min line at his 3rd base. He cannoned his main and nat min lines vs muta harass. He cannoned his 3rd nexus vs lings. But his 3rd base min line was left open. After the first wave of muta harass killed 5 or so probes I thought maybe he just forgot. He pulled the probes off the min line and the muta backed away. However he then returned them to mining without adding a cannon, and promptly lost another 3-4 probes. At this point I suspect BackHo knew he had to cannon it. However on some level because he knew he had to cannon his min line it then became a moral war. Nobody tells BackHo what he has to do, he's fucking BackHo, he'll do whatever the hell he wants. So he kept losing probes and he kept replacing them and in the end he won that little skirmish, when all the muta died in a later battle. His 3rd min line remained uncannoned and the moral win was his (at the cost of 20 or so probes).
And that is why BackHo is so fucking awesome. Nobody can argue with his macro, micro or multitasking. And when he decides to do a build then he does it and to hell with your subjective notions of counters. Whether he wins or (as more often happens) loses BackHo always comes out of games with a series of small moral victories in which conventional logic suggests he must do one thing but pure bloody mindedness and a willingness to sacrifice huge strategic advances for minor points of honour win through.
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d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
April 16 2008 19:55 GMT
#22
Hahaha, good read there. But I must say, sometimes I too see some similiarities between my own play and BackHo, like when refusing not to FE vs 5-pool...
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Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-16 20:14:57
April 16 2008 20:06 GMT
#23
Also, thanks for those VOD links. Never have seen those games and they were seriously entertaining games.

Edit: Your update is seriously hilarious. You have converted me into a BackHo fan.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4140 Posts
April 16 2008 20:32 GMT
#24
HAHAHA nice i wish BackHo was reading this
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
April 16 2008 21:11 GMT
#25
EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE!!!!(fuck yeah!)
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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
April 17 2008 11:21 GMT
#26
Excellent post. Laughed my ass off reading it. Great job Kwark!
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 28 2008 20:21 GMT
#27
Late to the party, but I was just linked in by Goosey's blog: LOL, Kwark, that was awesome.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
May 28 2008 20:51 GMT
#28
heh
i havent played sc or followed the pro scene since 2005 but wasnt it standard for protoss in pvz to have a huge mix of units, instead of massing 2 or 3 of them? ive always seen speedlots, goons, templars, obs, archons used together in a mix, and it seemed the strongest army. unless styles have changed since a lot since then.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 28 2008 21:16 GMT
#29
My god

I missed this the first time but this is hilarious
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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
May 28 2008 21:26 GMT
#30
On May 29 2008 06:16 H_ wrote:
My god

I missed this the first time but this is hilarious

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Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
May 28 2008 21:43 GMT
#31
I'm not sure if the OP was sarcastic or not (in saying that he loves BackHo) but after reading that I'm starting to like the guy lol.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
June 09 2008 07:09 GMT
#32
Even when Backho loses, Backho wins.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
June 09 2008 07:21 GMT
#33
Even when Backho wins, Backho loses.
But why?
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 12:34:15
June 09 2008 12:34 GMT
#34
On April 17 2008 02:38 Kwark wrote:
BackHo uses the same dice for all matchups.

I found this hilarious. Great write-up...I missed this the first time around.
Super serious.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 09 2008 13:16 GMT
#35
On May 29 2008 05:51 ieatkids5 wrote:
heh
i havent played sc or followed the pro scene since 2005 but wasnt it standard for protoss in pvz to have a huge mix of units, instead of massing 2 or 3 of them? ive always seen speedlots, goons, templars, obs, archons used together in a mix, and it seemed the strongest army. unless styles have changed since a lot since then.

yeah the bit of everything army is strongest imho... I am hoping
lot goon templar dt archon sair reaver arbitor army in my build very soon, if I get that good :D

What Kwark is saying is BackHo is so stubborn he doesn't change his ways even if it sucked balls.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 09 2008 13:27 GMT
#36
AHHahA @ several times Backho just shakes his head like
"fuck why isn't it working why isn't it working?!"
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 09 2008 13:41 GMT
#37
Finally got round to reading 5/5 - the Pusan comments were particularly amusing.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 09 2008 19:26 GMT
#38
Backho is just Backho. There's no other guy like him.
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Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
June 30 2008 22:39 GMT
#39
Funny, hes winnin a bunch lately =), idk if it was a joke in the main post but the stubborn attitude is kinda likeable IMO, heheh.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43778 Posts
July 15 2008 18:27 GMT
#40
Just leaving this image here because I need it saved but I don't want to bump the strategy guide just for this.

[image loading]
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johnmaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
125 Posts
July 15 2008 20:45 GMT
#41
BACKHOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 15 2008 22:01 GMT
#42
This is great! 5/5 for both the original and the update. You should consider praising BackHo's epic (moral) victory over JulyZerg!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
February 07 2009 17:00 GMT
#43
Would people curse me that if i bump this thread?

I love backho, i hope that he comes back soon to create more amazing moments
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 18:20 GMT
#44
i just love kwarks blog post
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 07 2009 18:25 GMT
#45
Is he still in the hospital? Any updates on his condition?
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
April 17 2009 03:39 GMT
#46
Bump, but this should be reason good enough...
BACKHO IS BACK!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43778 Posts
August 08 2009 15:57 GMT
#47
BAAAAAACCCKHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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