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This Diablo: Immortal thing is really funny. - Page 2

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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10979 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-12 19:02:41
November 12 2018 19:01 GMT
#21
That Blizzard has lost its mojo is clear since they managed to "miss" Dota.
+ the SC2 split in 3 fiasco. Now SC2, after 2 addons and tons of patches, is an awesome game but at least hots was absolutely unneeded.

It was just hilarious seeing all the bad decisions culmivated on the stage that D3 mobile got at blizzcon.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-13 00:35:12
November 13 2018 00:34 GMT
#22
On November 13 2018 02:24 Jerubaal wrote:
So would this have been preferable?



Of course getting a present of NOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING from Dethklok would be preferable.

Preferable to anything and everything.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2454 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-16 01:20:50
November 16 2018 01:17 GMT
#23
On November 10 2018 20:17 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Throw a little Skinner's box, and a few other psychological tricks to meta game manipulate people into playing their game. It becomes a chore and a grind. And what do you get when you reach the top? Little to nothing. The game becomes easy and boring.

But enough about Diablo II.





EDIT: To be less facetious, I actually liked Diablo II a lot, but to criticise a game in the series for being a "grind" and a "Skinner's box" is absolutely missing the point, lol
The original Bogus fan.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 18 2018 15:29 GMT
#24
On November 16 2018 10:17 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2018 20:17 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Throw a little Skinner's box, and a few other psychological tricks to meta game manipulate people into playing their game. It becomes a chore and a grind. And what do you get when you reach the top? Little to nothing. The game becomes easy and boring.

But enough about Diablo II.





EDIT: To be less facetious, I actually liked Diablo II a lot, but to criticise a game in the series for being a "grind" and a "Skinner's box" is absolutely missing the point, lol

The difference is the mobile games do it solely to squeeze money out of their players
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Kaz1
Profile Joined April 2015
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-22 21:07:32
November 22 2018 21:06 GMT
#25
I think that putting everyone that is seriously turned off by the game itself, that they used a well known gameclone maker, and lauding them as the next great thing is as bad as the train that tried to sink the trailer into oblivion.

I agree that the community overreacted. I imagine most of them were reddit users where this is commonplace.

The fact that they were blindsided by the reaction at blizzcon to a mobile game is a testament to how out of touch they are. Sorry, but if you didn't see this coming, then you should probably be looking for another job.

Honestly, this is about what i expected from them. There were a slew of things they completely ignored the community about on D3. I could care less if it is popular. It is a simple, and constraining game with very few real options that differentiate your character from anybody else's. The same is easily said for a lot of things in D2, but there were very good options that anybody that didn't just buy the cookie cutters outright understood. I was very often asked 'wtf are you using?' A lot by those same people that think enigma is the only useful armor. There is so little of this in D3 it is a drag.

I didni't even bother to play d3 until the expansion due to conversations that most probably already can guess. I lost interest in the expansion in a month of less. I played HC and died maybe twice. They have expanded the late game, but it is simply not enjoyable to play imo.

Due to the success of the game, even amidst a very large portion of D1/2 players made them feel secure that they can throw anything they want, whenever they want, and it will be fine. I am sure that the mobile game will do fine in the east, so they are basically right. However, I am done buying their titles for the foreseeable future.

By allocating a likely shortish dev cycle (for blizz anyway) to a mobile game, they have essentially completely conceded the game space to PoE. Maybe that is the right call, but I am honestly pretty blown away that they chose this route.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada791 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 13:34:13
November 23 2018 13:31 GMT
#26
Lmao at nony trying to get all philosophical, ppl are just upset because Diablo was always a pc game now it’s not.. clearly the majority of Diablo fans are pc players and blizzard completely missed the demographic. All blizzard looked at was mobile games are generating more revenue now, so we have to jump into that market head first, which is fine if they announced Diablo immortal on pc and said it would also be ported to mobile. People arn’t being “spoon fed” anything, they pay lots of money for games and if the developer can’t hit the obvious key demographic, then isn’t criticism warranted?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18011 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-02 05:09:33
December 02 2018 05:05 GMT
#27
On November 12 2018 18:41 Bacillus01 wrote:
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On November 06 2018 17:10 BEARDiaguz wrote:

I think you're missing the point.
Most people aren't mad at the developpers themselves, but at the head of the Blizzard-Activision company that makes the choices and gives the orders.

this is the standard "good cop"//"bad cop" routine that goes with all software development. The creators are the "good cop" and whoever controls the money that is paid to the creators is the "bad cop".

the narrative doesn't apply in all cases. However, it seems to make apparent sense on some level so it keeps getting used as a way to placate consumers.

If Blizzard were truly this puritanical company of nothing but goodness and wholesomeness they never would've taken money from investors in the first place. At some point Morhaime and the top guys decided to "cash in" their equity and surrendered a degree of control in Blizzard in order to get that cash.

So its not as simple as labelling : "ATVI: Bad" .. "Blizzard: Good".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10890 Posts
December 03 2018 12:29 GMT
#28
Warcraft 4 is coming out soon iaguz, just be patient.

xd
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 18 2018 10:37 GMT
#29
i love Diablo 2. i've played Diablo 3 quite a lot once they made it a decent game.

i don't play mobile games. that won't change with Diablo: Immortal.

what i don't get is why people get so mad Blizzard dare make a game they're not interested in. that's gonna happen. i love Warcraft 3 and i enjoyed Hearthstone for several years. i've never touched WoW in my life cause i'm not interested in the slightest. doesn't mean i get mad when Blizzard does something for WoW.

i understand the way they announced Diablo Immortal wasn't very smart. but cmon, they have the right to make a game you don't wanna play.
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
December 18 2018 19:20 GMT
#30
On December 18 2018 19:37 Schelim wrote:
i love Diablo 2. i've played Diablo 3 quite a lot once they made it a decent game.

i don't play mobile games. that won't change with Diablo: Immortal.

what i don't get is why people get so mad Blizzard dare make a game they're not interested in. that's gonna happen. i love Warcraft 3 and i enjoyed Hearthstone for several years. i've never touched WoW in my life cause i'm not interested in the slightest. doesn't mean i get mad when Blizzard does something for WoW.

i understand the way they announced Diablo Immortal wasn't very smart. but cmon, they have the right to make a game you don't wanna play.


they have the right to make diablo2, war2 and 3, and brood war over and over and over again and if they dont i have the right to riot
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
January 04 2019 12:26 GMT
#31
A gaming company doesn't usually get so much flack over a single issue like that if they've been good to their customers for the past years. As I see it, Blizzard has been pissing gamers off in numerous ways, and this was just the final nail in the coffin. Or at least it could be, we'll see how much further their stocks drop.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
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