As you all know I made a new account coz I couldn't handle playing in 2k games, couldn't find them fun so couldn't tryhard more than a few games in a row there. Not good enough to stomp and played way too many games to have it in me to care that much anymore. I got motivation/attention problems so I went and made a new acc to help me out and get that immediate boost up into High/Very High games.
Well the new account didn't go amazing but it was OK considering I have only have practice in 2k so am super inexperienced. I lost my first 2 games which immediately gimped me but slowly climbed into Very High after around 30 solo games, going 8-2 in Very High (of course that is a terrible sample size and my stats are shite) http://www.dotabuff.com/players/361552151/matches?date=all&skill_bracket=very_high_skill&timezone=Etc/UTC
The problem after that was I played a bunch of games with my 2k friend in a party, and apparently winning/losing vs lower tier players in a party actually lowers your SOLO hidden mmr, not just your party hidden mmr. When I went back to playing some solo games I found I was suddenly playing Normal tier games and after a few wins was at the bottom end of High.
Today I woke up with fuck-all sleep feeling like complete shit with Dota still on the bloody screen, my whole body is like jelly and I can barely raise my arms, and thought to hell with it, This is the time to calibrate.
So here it goes boys, I will update here with how the games go. I hope to win 6/10 and end up at 3700 as I know I'm probably playing with ~3600s at the moment (can see it in their profiles from time to time). I wouldn't be happy with any less but I do wanna get this out of the way so I can get on with the rest of my life and stop wondering about it!
LETS DO THIS!! *tries to hype up whilst feeling like a complete zombie*
Game 1 LOSS I get completely destroyed mid by a PA while our offlane weaver (27% winrate the past 2 months) goes 0-7 , our axe goes 0-6 and our 2800 MMR Spectre BMs me whilst dying to their 3800 MMR shadowblade necromorph. The game ends 37-7. Tnx volvo.
Game 2 LOSS Lost to a 23-3 morph. I'm playing really bad coz tired as fuck :x Id really care tho
Game 3 LOSS I pick oracle and my cores chain feed 26 deaths in a row whilst bming each other while i am 2 death
Game 4 LOSS I'm oracle and we got a 1-10 bounty with 10 last hits in a 38 min game and a windrunner who managed to farm blink while I got an orchid, needless to say we lost to their AM/voker
Game 5 LOSS I am oracle (too tired to play anything else but support). We can't kill their alchemist let alone the rest of their heroes. I am 8-2-13, rest of team 37 death :| At least the players were nice this game. (also wtf opponent had two 4ks and one 4.3k)
Game 6 LOSS We trilaned oracle venge jug and our jug was so fucking terrible he killed himself twice and then farmed a shadowblade. THEN he didn't know you could upgrade it to silver edge (to kill their bristle) GG
Game 7 WIN Yay I won, my cores were good. We almost lost suddenly at the end when their morph suddenly 1shot all of us and they took 2 rax in a matter of seconds but we came back with a bunch of linkens -_-
Game 8 WIN Thank god for that. I picked sven and we had a medusa too thank god and we done some nice buyback timing stuff to clinch the win. I'm up to 74 commends with 95 wins now after that game :/ ALSO OUR OMNI WAS WORSE THAN SLACKS WTF HOW IS HE THIS MMR LOL (no offense omni you were great really)
Game 9 WIN My god my brain hurts after this game. When u have a single lv1 meepo stuck in the trees bot with oracle + sniper with shrapnel and the meepo walks out after 30 seconds because sniper doesn't know what stutterstepping is (literally he stood there and kited himself), MY FUCKING BRAIN....... 50 fucking minutes of facepalming later we kill them
Game 10 LOSS Cores complete and utter garbage. LC diving into 5 heroes to ulti and immediately dying again and again. Opponent ends up with a 20-4 morph while my team BM the shit out of each other
Don't worry. Just play in the unranked very high skill bracket like I do. I'm like below 3k MMR ranked and will never get out of there, so I just play unranked and have fun every once in a while.
On September 29 2016 19:20 Artisreal wrote: Don't worry. Just play in the unranked very high skill bracket like I do. I'm like below 3k MMR ranked and will never get out of there, so I just play unranked and have fun every once in a while.
yesterdays unranked games were way better quality and nicer people than todays 4 games so far lol :/ its like dropping into low prio almost
You realize that winning or loosing isnt important in calibration games right? What matters is hero damage, hero healing, structural damage, KDA, GPM etc. Basically you need to focus on your own performance relative to the other 9 players in the game, nothing else matters.
play carry heroes with escape mech , lower your death hit damage as many as you can , there is 10% chance you get a nice team at ranked but you could also play party glhf
On September 29 2016 22:17 sunrazgriz wrote: play carry heroes with escape mech , lower your death hit damage as many as you can , there is 10% chance you get a nice team at ranked but you could also play party glhf
tnx, im just spamming oracle tho, its what i feel like today :/ i'm down to ~3400 now
On September 29 2016 20:26 FreakyDroid wrote: You realize that winning or loosing isnt important in calibration games right? What matters is hero damage, hero healing, structural damage, KDA, GPM etc. Basically you need to focus on your own performance relative to the other 9 players in the game, nothing else matters.
i thought this was found out, exploited, and subsequently removed
On September 29 2016 20:26 FreakyDroid wrote: You realize that winning or loosing isnt important in calibration games right? What matters is hero damage, hero healing, structural damage, KDA, GPM etc. Basically you need to focus on your own performance relative to the other 9 players in the game, nothing else matters.
i thought this was found out, exploited, and subsequently removed
i believe the numbers were tweaked as a result of it, but not removed completely
+ decent KDA of 4 over the 10 games after a shit loss with storm and losing 7 out of 10 games
+ players are worse than in unranked and BM a LOT more
+ this is likely coz i played all my games today around 3400-3500 instead of higher and coz i lost 7/10 games
+ i got literally a billion commends the last two days, idk if its broken but i am on 96 wins with 78 commends now. i mean it must be broken coz i played like 100 games with my retard party and no one is going to commend me in those games
+ how do i feel about my matches?
obvs the first voker game was shit and i need to watch some replay on how to lane against a PA but at the end of the day my team had 32 deaths when 3 were mine so i cut my losses i guess. i am 70% with invoker atm but it obvious how inexperienced i am in laning against various heroes.
the 2nd game with storm was a fucking disaster (lost to a 23-3 morphling) and regrettable but i done the right thing and switched to oracle (instead of just going to sleep lol).
rest of the games were pretty standard i guess except with worse cores than usual (since i wasnt mid/higher rank) which puts a lot of game winning/losing variance down to drafts (no way to kill their heroes late) and random misplays like cores suiciding.
+ can i be bothered to play at this mmr or just remake account? probably remake at this rate, there's not much point playing with people this level. i mean i might hit 4k in another 100 games but thats a fuck ton of games coz i play mostly in party
ROFL 100 games is nothing and making a new account and leveling it up and calibrating will take way longer than just grinding to 4k if you're actually good enough for 4k (which this whole thing clearly shows you aren't). Just stay on one account and grind if you wanna get higher MMR.
idc about the number i just want to play with better players and making a new account lets you do that within the first 3 games. you probably never made a new acc but if you make one and click the button "I've played dota before" and win a few games you get to play with a bunch of tryhard smurfs
On September 29 2016 20:26 FreakyDroid wrote: You realize that winning or loosing isnt important in calibration games right? What matters is hero damage, hero healing, structural damage, KDA, GPM etc. Basically you need to focus on your own performance relative to the other 9 players in the game, nothing else matters.
i thought this was found out, exploited, and subsequently removed
It was tweaked a bit but it still works, however it measures your performance across the board relative to the other 9 players. During calibration its important to at least stay on par with the rest or outperform them. Sometimes calibration games can take you even up to +/- 500 mmr depending on how good or bad you've performed relative to the other 9 players.
Am 4k, usually stack with people 5k+. 5k+Some of my fellow 4kish players are insane, some are godawful, some games the "better" players totally tank and play shitty or are playing off-roles or whatever. If you want to play with better players, don't solo queue, grab some friends who are decent and around your level, and play games where at least you have an idea of how much you can rely on your team. Makes it simpler to analyze your own performance and actually improve.
Across the board though, the people with 5k+ MMRs grinded to get there, and usually through either grinding specific heroes or meta heroes with the goal of gaining MMR. Are they in almost all cases better players than myself? Yeah. Could we all random and have someone be able to pick us out by MMR? Not very likely, unless they random into a hero they know well.
TLDR stop solo queue and stack up with people better than you, but not so much that you're a burden.
good luck but imo i think u need to change some mindset fundamentals in order to improve... i cant rly pinpoint what needs to be changed tho i dont mean to sound mean but thats how i see it
If yer wanna git good get MMR, play heros that can overtake a game and dont bother with supporting. Can be difficult with 5 cores but that's life at 3k And really work on your composure. If you're mad/yelling/getting affected by others yelling 1) your enjoyment of the game will drop 2) you're playing worse than you could 3) you'll loose 4) repeat 1-3
At least that's how it is for me. Thus I try n stop playing when I'm getting mad at people/me to avoid abovementioned vicious circle.
On September 30 2016 13:39 ChunderBoy wrote: good luck but imo i think u need to change some mindset fundamentals in order to improve... i cant rly pinpoint what needs to be changed tho i dont mean to sound mean but thats how i see it
ya beesa's not wrong
pretty sure you need to just focus on yourself strictly and focus on doing everything better to improve the game.
Almost like...feels like you are focusing too much on what you did well, in a non meaningful way, and not how to actually get better. Hard to say exactly what, and its 3am so im less articulate. Good luck fam anyone can make the grind if they improve the right way
tnx for the advices bros, i dont really wanna reply any more coz people seem to interpret stuff randomly about me, which is fine but i dont want to get into it
On September 30 2016 16:35 Artisreal wrote: If yer wanna git good dont bother with supporting.
this is 100% false. ok maybe closer to like..90%..but incorrect nonetheless
a lot of the game can be decided in the first 5-10 minutes and a really good support can make their carry play at a level higher than their mmr would indicate.
in 2-3k you would have much higher winrate playing mid tho , it reduces variance so much if you pick mid , its not just about playing a great support but you also take out a potentially terrible mid player. imo
i agree with the support thing. if you have fun playing the role and winning or more specifically playing the safelane and zoning, you really kickstart your farming carry and at the very least they will be on par with the enemy core at the start of the game. some heroes feel unplayable because they fall behind. this is even worse when the player has misconceptions about how to pull themselves up after bad laning.
if i were you, i would personally use these practice games to get myself out of a mental rut and go back to my original account with a fresher mindset.
i have never described 'my cores' as shit after a game no matter how poorly they played. but i have also done things related to others that you probably haven't; such as, being overbearing with teammates and telling them exactly where to farm and how as the game is getting harder.
recently i had 80% WR over 50 games and for whatever reason i was putting pressure on myself to continue the trend--as if i had to live up to my own expectations of winning. this eventually led me to take on a more caustic tone with my teammates at times when they would do some off-the-wall builds on their heroes or generally play weirdly.
clearly they were practicing their newer heroes in ranked, but giving them mean words or trying to teach them to play a certain way on the go is not the way. likelihood is that they're not going to listen to you the way you want them to, and it's not really your place to tell them how to play, nor is it to expect them to be micromanaged all game long.
i ended up losing 11 straight feeling as though i had nothing more i could have done in nearly every loss because i was playing each game so hard my wrists started to hurt. i think the fallacy was actually thinking that the games were getting poorer in quality and stuff like that. the real difference between the streaks of winning and losing was that as i started to lose i tried to change more and more in order to win along with taking on more responsibilities with whatever team i happened to be on.
the fact is, they're just pubs with players just like you, sometimes with pros or community figures who probably know better than you do. the best (overall) you can do is make suggestions and briefly explain why it is good. and on the point of losing, winning or even getting good practice, i'd really say don't sweat it and don't read into things.
all you need to do is focus on yourself and have the best game you can have. you can take credit for your hard work paying off, but you always could have done better. best not to revel or sit on the good stuff you did because there are probably other underlying causes for the result. that is not to put yourself down, but to really focus down on what you have power over during the game.
i'll use the quickest example i can: let's say you're safelane sven and your supports leave you minute 0 with solo darkseer. he gets XP, fast soulring despite you trying to use the tools you have (mango, regen, aggro tricks, positioning cleaves on darkseer, timing things, pulling for certain waves, etc.). it can no longer be helped that you received no help in lane, let's not focus on that. you get a late HotD to start stacking minute 9 and you are officially behind. but often people will miss stacks at this point or farm in lane too long or not very well at all. it's now your goal to have a perfect game from here. finish treads ASAP, stack to 3/4 ancients by level 11, stay healthy while farming and getting as much as you can, and efficiently getting to your ancient stack to catch back up. you know, 17-19m blink, 22m BKB, and then you start participating in the game again.
you focused on your farming and got everything you needed while your team evidently played the game, as opposed to mentally tilting and trying to do too many things at once while your farm slowly suffers on this hero. now you are further ahead than you should be and to the outside eye all you did was farm and use the space your team created. now you have to figure out if farming as you did was the high percentage play or not.
tldr; don't overthink, just do what you know you need to do in order to suceed. erase your teammates from the equation for a few games if that's what it takes for you to get that composure. go back afterwards and truly try to be objective towards the details of your very own play.
On October 01 2016 04:31 FFGenerations wrote: in 2-3k you would have much higher winrate playing mid tho , it reduces variance so much if you pick mid , its not just about playing a great support but you also take out a potentially terrible mid player. imo
False.
You can have a 50%+ win rate playing any position and playing it well and having a good attitude.
On October 03 2016 06:53 Artisreal wrote: How long has it been for you to be low 3k blue? Cause our experiences differ quite a bit
I haven't been low 3k since ranked came out.
If you don't think you belong in your mmr playing support is quite relevatory sinca a good support can take over the game at this mmr. So if you cannot perform like that, it's an indicator.
Im going for my 5k on my third account playing support and have been climbing faster than any other role. Any joker can last hit creep if you make his lane perfect for him. Then you just sit behind your overfarmed carries and watch them win for you.
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