• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:13
CEST 10:13
KST 17:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!5Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters1Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)67Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3336 users

TING Open Season 2 - An Unofficial Preview

Blogs > Soularion
Post a Reply
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
July 22 2016 07:48 GMT
#1
We at TL don't usually make previews for online tournaments, and this is very casual so I don't feel as though it deserves a featured news spot, but I felt like writing about the TING Open matchups coming up in a few hours considering that they're rather high-profile for an online event and one of the rare times to see some real foreigner vs korean action before blizzcon.

Nerchio vs Patience

You guys all know that I'm a big Nerchio fan, and after Dreamhack Valencia I think he's definitely one of the best foreigners around- and the very best zerg, obviously. He's good at ZvP, he's shown a lot of promise in his sets against ShoWTimE and Neeb, and he shouldn't be too out of his element against cheese. On the other hand, Patience is pretty damn good too- he lost to Rogue earlier this tournament, but he's beaten the lower tier of zergs in Korea fairly consistently while taking games off of some of the very best. I consider this a 50-50 matchup on paper. It's a top-tier but not dominant ZvPer from WCS against a mid-tier PvZer from Korea, and as such should be fairly close- of course, reality has a korean bias, so if the trends of previous years follow through we should see Patience winning this by a 3-1 or 3-2 scoreline. If Nerchio wins this match - especially in dominant fashion - that lends a lot of cred to WCS as a real challenger of the korean mid-tier, although it's far from doom-and-gloom for Korea or anything. It just helps my theory that foreigners will perform well against the players at blizzcon who aren't TY/Stats/Zest/Dark.


Rogue vs Solar

Because this is two koreans and I'm not all that well versed in the korean scene I won't comment too much on this one, but generally I think of this as a similar 50-50 series and it should be exciting to watch. Nerchio against the winner of this would be very exciting, and would continue to deepen the pool of knowledge we have about foreign-korean relations right now.


Neeb vs Bly

Bly making the Ro8 thanks to disappointing performances from Harstem as well as uThermal is a bit unexpected, but not too crazy. It doesn't point to too much of an over-performance, and as such Neeb should be the winner here most of the time. They did have a close set in a Gauntlet a while back - Bly went 2-0, then 1-2 against Neeb, who proceeded to 4-0 Hydra - but otherwise Neeb has the head-to-head dominance. A Neeb vs ByuN semifinals is particularly interesting, considering Neeb destroyed ByuN in the Gauntlet a few weeks ago, 6-1.


ByuN vs Hydra
ByuN of all players is not someone we can discount online. There's a lot of generally accepted theories about top koreans playing less than fantastic in online competitions; some of this I believe, some of this I disagree with. When Snute beat Zest, I thought that was a legitimate win that would be much harder to recreate offline. It shows that Snute is a smart player and Zest has weaknesses, but those weaknesses would be much harder to exploit if it was a well-prepared for offline match such as Blizzcon. On the other hand, when ShoWTimE played largely standard games against TY/Solar and got beat 3-1 in both sets (if I recall correctly) I didn't think that was an online excuse type of series. Both players played their status quo and ShoWTimE came off about tier below the good koreans; I do think he's improved a lot since, but those sets have fueled my theory of top-tier foreigners being around mid-tier in korea. With players like Maru, who are known to kind of dick around online? Yeah, upsets mean a lot less. But if anything, ByuN overperforms online- he holds something like a ~88% winrate, and that makes Neeb's upset of him in The Gauntlet so utterly crazy to me. This is arguably one of the best online player in Korea, and Neeb manhandled him. Of course you can't use the logic of 'Neeb > ByuN' just because of one upset, but it's a very interesting result that surprised me quite a lot. Therefor, it's going to be interesting to see how ByuN does against Hydra. ByuN should realistically be the favorite for the entire event, but he's struggled quite a bit with foreigners and it'll be interesting to see if a close set against Hydra (as well as Neeb and maybe Nerchio later on) can keep up that trend.


Overall, Nerchio vs Patience is the most important matchup here by far. Not only is Nerchio the hottest foreigner right now, but we haven't seen him against koreans much (not since his losses to Ryung last TING) and Patience (as well as Solar if that match lines up) is potential blizzcon attendee. Otherwise, Neeb vs Bly is likely to be a boring 3-0/3-1, Rogue vs Solar will be interesting, and ByuN vs Hydra could either be surprisingly weak or pretty damn good.

Also- my current prediction for Blizzcon Ro16 is either 6-2 or 5-3 in the koreans' favor. Right now it's actually very open for foreigners, but I do buy into the establishment thinking that players such as Patience and Cure will likely be weeded out and replaced by the likes of Dear and maybe Maru. Still, I'm confident in foreigners, and it should be an awesome event.

Writermaru pls
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 116
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2066
Tasteless 316
Soma 273
Mong 243
Larva 142
Mind 117
actioN 105
Dewaltoss 57
ZergMaN 56
HiyA 29
[ Show more ]
Bale 19
Noble 12
sorry 6
Dota 2
Fuzer 0
League of Legends
JimRising 623
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K650
shoxiejesuss544
Other Games
summit1g6018
FrodaN1513
WinterStarcraft844
ceh9728
Sick226
CosmosSc2 30
RuFF_SC220
Trikslyr15
febbydoto7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1862
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2157
League of Legends
• Rush1380
• Stunt631
• HappyZerGling120
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
15h 47m
The PondCast
1d 1h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 2h
OSC
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Serral vs SHIN
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs Solar
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.