• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:32
CEST 14:32
KST 21:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles1[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China7Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL64Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?13FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event22
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles Program: SC2 / XSplit / OBS Scene Switcher The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays Korean Starcraft League Week 77
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL SC uni coach streams logging into betting site Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2024! Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 746 users

Making of TL's hype trailer for Dreamhack Cluj P1

Blogs > JieXian
Post a Reply
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-01 17:35:02
October 31 2015 07:07 GMT
#1
Hi everyone!

This is the video LastManProductions, our video editor, and I have just made together for the latest CS:GO Dreamhack in Cluj-Napoca, Romania which takes places from 28 October until 1 November.

The Context

This is the first time so many American teams (3) were able to qualify for DH, hence the theme for this video: American Revolution.

The plan was to have 3 acts

Act 1: Americans getting murdered – Americans usually don't do well
Act 2: American highlights – hope: 3 American teams have managed to qualify for this Dreamhack
Act 3: European highlights - The hard climb to the top, the challenge ahead



And this is the track I composed and produced for the video above (i.e. without gunshots and commentators):


After several months of talking to Souma and sending sample tracks and iterated improvements of it, I’ve finally been accepted in the CS:GO coverage team as a music producer.

It was late September and I was immediately told by xkcd that we want to publish a video in late October. It’s my first time taking on something like this and everything must be done in 1 month, which sounds like a lot of time until you know that my first track I’ve ever produced, which was 5 minutes long took me 4-5 months, while my fastest one (after I’ve had a better grasp of the basics) took me about 3 weeks.

Problem is, I cannot take 3 weeks on a track because the video editor, I know LastManProductions needs my music before he is able to start working on the video.

After a discussion with LastManProductions I’ve gathered that he already has a clear vision for the video:

As mentioned earlier, this is the first time so many American teams (3) were able to qualify for DH, hence the theme for this video: American Revolution.

His vision was to have 3 acts:

Act 1: Americans getting murdered – Americans usually don't do well
Act 2: American highlights – hope: 3 American teams have managed to qualify for this Dreamhack
Act 3: European highlights - The hard climb to the top, the challenge ahead

(I’ve forgotten how he worded it but that was my interpretation of it.)


Sounds like a great storyline to me, but how do I start? I am a Malaysian and have no idea what music would say “American Revolution”. All I could think of was the Star Spangled Banner.

So I just googled keywords for ideas. I listened to patriotic songs, national anthems and marching songs from all around the world. I listened to hours and hours of everything I could find in order to absorb it all.

Finally after listening to this, I realised that I loved the first track and using it as a foundation would work.
+ Show Spoiler +



I googled for every version and cover of that track and listened to them repeatedly. I took my guitar and played around with the tune and chords and was very satisfied. Great, now I have a theme for the music of Act 2.

Now for the music of Act 1 I decided to use a similar chord progression of the track in Act 2, with some minor changes. I’ve improvised with my guitar around chord progression thinking about sad stuff and voilà, I have myself a theme for Act 1. (Yes, the music Act 1 did flow out that easily ^^)

I made a recording on my guitar, but I knew it wouldn’t work as a draft after listening to it. So since I didn’t want to shame myself during my first project I decided to whip up a crude draft of my ideas in Ableton using proper, albeit placeholder orchestral instruments to send to LastManProd. The "whipping" ended up taking me a few hours.

Interestingly, while I was writing it in Ableton I realised that my improvised Act 1 phrase was in 9/4 or 5/4 + 4/4, which I was excited about because it was just like Frank Zappa's Watermelon In Easter Hay (his was more of a 4/4 + 5/4 though), absolutely perfect! I loved how the extra beat in his track adds to the melancholy.
+ Show Spoiler +



Since my Act 1 was in a slow tempo that just wouldn't work in Act 2, I’ve decided to make a transition by slowly ramping up the speed to the climax of Act 2 - meaning the speed increase was purely natural and unplanned :D

LastManProductions got back to me, he liked the ideas and had some criticisms. Act 2 was nice while Act 1 music was too long.

When someone says something is too long it can mean 2 things:

1 It is too long, but usually:
2 It is long winded i.e. your progression sucks, i.e. it’s boring and repetitive as it goes on.

A great first step, LastManProductions liked the general theme of the draft. Here was what he heard ^^
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzbEBl6XK0JUb0lzRWpaS3cyM00/view?usp=sharing

I took his criticism and began working on the second iteration.
===================================================================================

This blog getting too long and I'll continue this later.

Thank you for reading! I hope you've found it interesting ^^

Connect with LastManProductions:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/lastmanprod]https://twitter.com/lastmanprod
https://www.youtube.com/user/aLastManProduction


Connect with me:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/JeiShian
https://www.youtube.com/user/JieXianMusic
https://soundcloud.com/jeishian
https://www.facebook.com/JeiShianMusic/


(PS: Justine Chowder will be back after LOTV)

**
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 07:15:54
October 31 2015 07:15 GMT
#2
double post
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
October 31 2015 13:10 GMT
#3
(Late?) Congrats on making the CS:GO team!

Tough process and deadline, but the track went well with the video imo (and I don't know the context.) I especially liked the finish. Also, I like how you took inspiration from old military marches, I like listening to those.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
October 31 2015 14:13 GMT
#4
I like this, its charging me up

0:52 looks like a line from enemy at the gates. Caught you! love that film.
i Like how you used the organ in the end. fits in very well and that was not obvious thing to do
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 17:56:16
October 31 2015 15:43 GMT
#5
On October 31 2015 22:10 c3rberUs wrote:
(Late?) Congrats on making the CS:GO team!

Tough process and deadline, but the track went well with the video imo (and I don't know the context.) I especially liked the finish. Also, I like how you took inspiration from old military marches, I like listening to those.


It's my first project with so it's not late

Thank you for your comment about the context ! I have edited the OP to make it clearer for everyone.


The Context
This is the first time so many American teams (3) were able to qualify for DH, hence the theme for this video: American Revolution.

The plan was to have 3 acts

Act 1: Americans getting murdered – Americans usually don't do well
Act 2: American highlights – hope
Act 3: European highlights - The hard climb to the top, the challenge ahead


BTW I've finished the music before the video was even started, so LastManProductions was the one who made the video fit, he's amazing at his work!

Thanks

On October 31 2015 23:13 pebble444 wrote:
I like this, its charging me up

0:52 looks like a line from enemy at the gates. Caught you! love that film.
i Like how you used the organ in the end. fits in very well and that was not obvious thing to do


Grazie grazie Yes it wasn't obvious at all and I've had problems with it, I'll talk about it in the later blogs.

As for 0:52 I didn't copy Enemy at the Gates nor do I know what it sounds like. I have been very outright about using "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" as a foundation for Act 2 but I didn't do the same for Act 1, it's just the same chord progression from the B section of "When Johnny Comes Marching Home" except that I changed a few major chords into minor chords :D

Could you please link me to a video of the part of Enemy at the Gates that sounded the same?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 17:27:34
October 31 2015 17:25 GMT
#6


this happens all the time btw it just means you are spot on!
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-31 20:48:20
October 31 2015 17:49 GMT
#7
On November 01 2015 02:25 pebble444 wrote:
https://youtu.be/_-SahfFVCeA?t=1m50s

this happens all the time btw it just means you are spot on!


ohhhhhhh that! I thought you were referring to the chord before it.

Yes I did remember hearing something like that before :D It's the same in Troy. I didn't actively copied it but it was definitely related haha. For that part I automatically heard the sound in my head I guess it's something that's been used in several movies.

+ Show Spoiler +



I watched Enemy at the Gates when I was really young and forgot how it sounded like, but after all I did watch it and listened to the music
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#43
WardiTV912
OGKoka 530
RotterdaM273
Rex172
IndyStarCraft 136
CranKy Ducklings104
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 530
Harstem 330
Lowko291
RotterdaM 273
Rex 172
IndyStarCraft 136
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1806
Jaedong 1295
Flash 1024
Hyuk 867
EffOrt 515
Larva 454
firebathero 420
actioN 337
Stork 327
Soulkey 299
[ Show more ]
Soma 285
Pusan 266
ZerO 179
Snow 173
Sharp 82
Mind 79
hero 76
JulyZerg 76
PianO 65
sSak 54
sorry 34
Aegong 30
yabsab 27
GoRush 26
zelot 25
Free 22
HiyA 22
JYJ21
Icarus 19
Barracks 16
soO 16
Movie 14
IntoTheRainbow 11
Yoon 10
Shine 7
ivOry 2
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
qojqva2967
Gorgc2410
XaKoH 582
syndereN495
XcaliburYe364
League of Legends
singsing2321
Counter-Strike
x6flipin582
byalli232
allub159
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King211
Other Games
B2W.Neo874
crisheroes348
hiko288
ArmadaUGS125
rGuardiaN45
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick33246
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2771
League of Legends
• Nemesis3067
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
3h 29m
Replay Cast
11h 29m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 29m
WardiTV European League
1d 3h
MaNa vs sebesdes
Mixu vs Fjant
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs goblin
Gerald vs Babymarine
Krystianer vs YoungYakov
PiGosaur Monday
1d 11h
The PondCast
1d 21h
WardiTV European League
1d 23h
Jumy vs NightPhoenix
Percival vs Nicoract
ArT vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Harstem
Scarlett vs Shameless
SKillous vs uThermal
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs Reynor
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Cure
FEL
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
4 days
FEL
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs QiaoGege
Dewalt vs Fengzi
Hawk vs Zhanhun
Sziky vs Mihu
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Sziky
Fengzi vs Hawk
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 20
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.