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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-11 20:05:00
October 11 2015 19:39 GMT
#1
I don’t really know why I did it. I think I was curious what had happened to that game from 2010 – by far the entry in the Starcraft franchise which has most profoundly influenced me. Maybe I had just forgotten what an infestor looked like. Or maybe I was just sick of losing games to oracle rushes.

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I hate this fucking unit more than I ever hated broodlord infestor.

Distant though it seemed, Wings of Liberty was just a few clicks away, waiting in the gameplay tab of the options menu. Quite abruptly I found myself back in 2010, staring at a screen informing me that 5 placement matches awaited me. Uncertain of what to expect, I hit Find Match, and wound up in a TvT on Daybreak.

The feeling that I got being thrown into a TvT on Daybreak after two and a half years deserves a moment’s discussion. I wasn’t really playing Starcraft during #Dreampool, so I never got the experience of returning to old maps until now. Looking at that familiar spirally shape, those watchtowers, those center rocks – the only word I can think of, and it isn’t even a word, is “nostalgasm.”

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nostalgasm (n.)- a feeling of nostalgia so overwhelming and intense that you feel it in your loins.
Related words: nostalgasmic (adj.), nostaljizz (v.)

I let the nostalgasm wash over me as I tried to remember my standard WoL TvT. Fast expand opening, I believe? Yes, and take gas on 15. Then get a lot of hellions and a starport, a viking, a raven, and eventual tanks. Okay, cool, there’s my gameplan.

My opponent, a gold leaguer who went by Havoc, was doing some sort of one base build. Okay, slight modifications: make more marines, a bunker, and turrets. Keep the hellions across the map to see when he moves out. Then just make tanks as soon as I can, and wait for the attack.

And I waited.

I was starting to send out units to check for hidden expansions, when finally at about eleven minutes, two medivacs full of marine+marauder walked across the map, took the watchtowers, and tried to come kill me. By then I had a viking, raven, hellions, and a couple tanks, so I defended with ease. Taking a moment to nostaljizz over the 250mm strike cannon upgrade on my factory tech lab, I made a bunch of hellions, a few vikings, a raven, and four tanks, and went across the map to kill his natural. He sniped the tanks at the cost of his entire bio force, and I was just getting ready to go roast his whole worker line when an odd comment came up in chat.

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I’m sorry, what?

Confused but otherwise unfazed, I went ahead and killed him, then jumped into another game to find myself in another game… against a gold leaguer named Havoc.

Here’s the first thing you’ll learn if you go back to play WoL: nobody plays WoL. The few remaining opponents are numerous enough that your queue times are usually under five minutes, but hitting the same opponent repeatedly is inevitable. This isn’t a totally unknown phenomenon in HotS, of course, but it’s usually only if both of you queued immediately after a game, and even then it’s pretty rare. In WoL you’ll hit the same person repeatedly even if you both had matches in between since your last meeting, and when you do both queue immediately after games, you’ll often play four or five games against each other, at least.

Given my opponent’s misunderstanding of the word “cheese” at the end of our last match, I thought I’d show him a real cheese. So on 8 supply I rallied my command center to my opponent’s natural on Ohana, and built a barracks behind his minerals on 11. Then I built a tech lab, and assaulted his ramp with a bunker, a couple SCVs, and concussive shell marauders. Because this is cheese.

This was a brutal build in WoL, and it was no surprise that he didn’t really know how to respond to it. Pretty immediately he typed into chat:

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Say “all’s fair in love and war” all you want, there’s still something cruel about pulling out proxy marauder against a noobie.

I hit Havoc a third time, and felt a bit conflicted about what to do. On the one hand, it seemed cruel to be pulling out these obscure cheeses I learned from pro streams in 2011. On the other hand, the only way I could get to face better opponents was to win against the bad ones,and it would go a lot quicker if I could win games a little earlier instead of drawing out the macro game every time. What about a common rush – something he had surely seen before, but which I could still win with pretty quickly? Then he’d have a fair chance of defending it, but I could still outplay him if I really was the better player.

I settled on a cloak banshee rush. I hadn't done the build in a long time, so it was a little rusty, and I got supply blocked a couple times, but I still had a banshee headed for his base roughly on time. It arrived to no turrets, far too few units, and no scans; his worker line was forfeit. Again, he flailed for a moment before giving up fighting to type into chat that he hoped this was my last placement match. I told him truthfully enough that it was only my third. He left on this remark:

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Am I both?

Luckily for Havoc, I hit other opponents for my remaining placement matches, won handily, and was placed into silver league. Perhaps I’ll discuss those games in another blog, but for now I’ll fast forward to several games later, when I hit Havoc one more time. While I killed him with the same fast exand build from the first game, he talked to me about a lot of things. He apologized for his poor behavior from our previous games (this marks the first time in my almost 6000 matchmaking games in Starcraft 2 that an opponent raged at me for a loss, and later apologized; and his rage was pretty innocuous!). He explained that I had ended a 17 game win streak for him, and he had been hoping to break through into platinum. He inquired whether I had won all my placement matches, and what league I was placed in, and was shocked that I was only in silver. In a truly kind gesture, he reassured me that I was, in his estimation, “at least platinum” and that I would advance quickly enough. As it happens I wasn't particularly bothered by my placement, but it was touching nonetheless that he would be sufficiently concerned for my happiness and sense of self worth to suggest I shouldn't take my assigned league to heart.

I talked with Havoc a while after the game. He acknowledged that my first game against him hadn’t been a cheese, and even that the fast cloak banshee build wasn’t all that cheesy – that was a pretty common mech opener, after all. He told me about how everyone plays mech in TvT, but he really wants to make it work with bio. He told me his favorite player is Maru, and that Maru is the best Terran in the world, and he wants to play just like him. I tried to give him some pointers, and offered to go over some of his replays to talk about what he could do better, but he told me no, thank you, he just needed to get in a lot of games so he could improve, and went ahead into his next match.

What touches me most about Havoc is how much of myself I see in him. I remember being that player: basing so much of my pride and self-worth on my rank, even as I struggled through silver league; setting my sights on the absolute highest level of play, and insisting that I would achieve it some day, even though I could barely keep a command center constantly producing; gobbling up online Starcraft content when I was too scared to hit 'Find Match' on ladder; picking a top Terran and deciding I wanted to be “just like him” (and, interestingly enough, my Terran of choice was MKP); eschewing all advice from higher level players, or analysis of my own replays, and insisting on improving simply by playing lots of games. It’s as if my 2011 self was picked up and transported – aspirations, insecurities, and all – to 2015, and given a new screen name.

I wish I could share some of the insights from my four year journey, and help him along a bit, but in 2011 there were plenty of players better than me willing to offer advice, and I either refused to seek it out and listen or was unable to understand it. The best I could do is refer him to Day[9] archives and hope those would help him as much as they helped me. In the mean time, I had a fat bonus pool and about a million games to win before I hit any decent opponents. I’ll leave that story for another blog.

****
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 11 2015 20:01 GMT
#2
I wonder if that opponent is that nice in every aspect of their life. :D
kiss kiss fall in love
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 11 2015 21:27 GMT
#3
solid story
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
October 11 2015 21:49 GMT
#4
Sounds like you guys are now best buds
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
October 12 2015 03:43 GMT
#5
dont poke fish bowl
❤ BeSt... ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA #YEAROFKOMA ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 12 2015 05:02 GMT
#6
Damn, this kind of makes me miss wol...
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
October 12 2015 07:04 GMT
#7
On October 12 2015 06:49 riotjune wrote:
Sounds like you guys are now best buds

Haven't spoken since. I added him on Battle.net and saw him online a few times. I think he did make it into platinum eventually, so good for him. But I haven't messaged him or anything, I wouldn't really know what to say. At the end of the day he's just some guy I hit a few times on ladder.

On October 12 2015 12:43 BeStFAN wrote:
dont poke fish bowl

Weird, unexplained, uncapitalized, unpunctuated metaphors? I love it!

On October 12 2015 14:02 y0su wrote:
Damn, this kind of makes me miss wol...

It's just a few clicks away...
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
October 12 2015 13:14 GMT
#8
This blog kinda reminds me of the blogs from a guy named Gheed who tried to hit the lowest MMR possible by worker rushing people. His stories were really fun.

Anyway, it's cool to see someone went back to WoL and saw what was left behind. I should try to go back some day too, could be fun !
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
October 12 2015 18:33 GMT
#9
On October 12 2015 22:14 LoneYoShi wrote:
This blog kinda reminds me of the blogs from a guy named Gheed who tried to hit the lowest MMR possible by worker rushing people. His stories were really fun.

Anyway, it's cool to see someone went back to WoL and saw what was left behind. I should try to go back some day too, could be fun !

I take that as a big compliment, I loved Gheed's blogs. So thanks!
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 13 2015 11:39 GMT
#10
Fun story, thanks for sharing.

I've felt for a while now that I wanted to get back into SC2. Haven't played the game online since... basically 2011. Then I read your blog, then I read that LotV is in open beta, and I said fuck it, why not tonight?

But you gotta learn to crawl before you can walk, so I decided to start with WoL. Did my placement games and got thrown into Plat, which is actually higher than where I was when I quit the game, but I'm sure that's just because WoL is ded gaem.

Zerg and Protoss scare me. I feel like I can die to just about anything. Mass Roaches? Sure! Mass Banes? Sure! Fast Mutas? Potentially, though thankfully hasn't happened yet. I just died to a crapton of Infestors behind a ling/bling flood, fungaling all of my junk.

But it's a lot of fun, I have to admit. I feel like I'm getting 10x better with every match I play. You inspired me to look up a fast Banshee opening, so I did that for my first mirror (and won outright cause I got turrets and he didn't). My second TvT started the same way but then transitioned into back and forth mech contains, then viking/BC. I'm happy to say that years of watching SC2 paid off and I was able to translate theory into reality... flawfully, but well enough to take the game!

I've been on such a rogue-like kick lately, playing stuff like Binding of Isaac, Renowned Explorers, Skyshines Bedlam, Armello, even gave Guild of Dungeoneering a try. They were all diverting for an evening or two, but more and more they feel like too much game and not enough me. I've really been missing a game where I could sit down and just get better and better at it. Looks like it's finally time for SC2 to come back into my life.

Haven't felt any ladder anxiety yet, only ladder EXCITEMENT!!! Hopefully that'll stay that way...
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
October 13 2015 12:01 GMT
#11
On October 13 2015 20:39 pure.Wasted wrote:
Fun story, thanks for sharing.

I've felt for a while now that I wanted to get back into SC2. Haven't played the game online since... basically 2011. Then I read your blog, then I read that LotV is in open beta, and I said fuck it, why not tonight?

But you gotta learn to crawl before you can walk, so I decided to start with WoL. Did my placement games and got thrown into Plat, which is actually higher than where I was when I quit the game, but I'm sure that's just because WoL is ded gaem.

Zerg and Protoss scare me. I feel like I can die to just about anything. Mass Roaches? Sure! Mass Banes? Sure! Fast Mutas? Potentially, though thankfully hasn't happened yet. I just died to a crapton of Infestors behind a ling/bling flood, fungaling all of my junk.

But it's a lot of fun, I have to admit. I feel like I'm getting 10x better with every match I play. You inspired me to look up a fast Banshee opening, so I did that for my first mirror (and won outright cause I got turrets and he didn't). My second TvT started the same way but then transitioned into back and forth mech contains, then viking/BC. I'm happy to say that years of watching SC2 paid off and I was able to translate theory into reality... flawfully, but well enough to take the game!

I've been on such a rogue-like kick lately, playing stuff like Binding of Isaac, Renowned Explorers, Skyshines Bedlam, Armello, even gave Guild of Dungeoneering a try. They were all diverting for an evening or two, but more and more they feel like too much game and not enough me. I've really been missing a game where I could sit down and just get better and better at it. Looks like it's finally time for SC2 to come back into my life.

Haven't felt any ladder anxiety yet, only ladder EXCITEMENT!!! Hopefully that'll stay that way...

That's awesome! I've been thinking about this, and I legitimately think WoL is a better place to learn the game than HotS, at least as Terran. HotS gave Terran some new toys that are pretty weird to try to use, while meanwhile kinda throwing your early game into chaos for TvP and TvT. In WoL you can pretty safely go gasless 1 rax expand every game, which is probably a better way to learn the game.

To be honest WoL has really been motivating me to get better at the game, too. I've been going back and watching old Day[9] Dailies like #252 and trying to work on my mechanics. If you haven't played in a while, you might wanna try going back and watching some newbie tuesdays. They're really fantastic for knowing how to go about improving smartly.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
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