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TLADT24920 Posts
a late late late game TvZ in BW!!!!! 59 minutes long 140+ APM intensive game on Neo Electric Circuit. The game took forever to finish, because, both me and my opponent kept trading blows, armies and securing expansions only to lose them later on. I think I damaged my left wrist in the process haha. For background, I've won late game TvZ before whenever I managed to damage my opponent's third and/or fourth before defilers are out, however, in this game, I was not able to do that. My opponent double expanded early on to take a quick third after cross-spawning then took two side bases which he defended well enough early on from my drops (mostly lost sunkens or zerglings).
From then on, it was constant aggression, drops, counter attacks, avoiding ensnare and trying to irradiate everything in site while trying to micro my army in some rough situations. My macro fell apart a little before midway through the game, but, I managed to survive and macro harder than ever to stay alive and made some good decisions to take the game.
Rather than tell the tale in mu usual written battle report format, I've decided to put together a gif file that will show some of the more important engagements in an effort to clue you guys in on what transpired. My advice is to wait until the gif file completely loads before watching it.
Hope you guys enjoyed it. Feel free to leave comments below!
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I want to add that BigFan has NEVER EVER won a late game TvZ before (in hundreds of games) that doesn't involve taking down a third or fourth in the midgame so this is a huge improvement for him.
In the following late game I learnt the lessons (since this is my first ever late late late game ZvT), and corrected many mistakes I've made, mainly to mix in hydras (and upgrade them) -- and won the late game under 40 mins  If i had hydras in many of the engagements i could have taken down a ton of vessels, which I did the next time :D
Still, a great achievement for BigFan because this is a huuuuuge improvement in skill for him. Unprecedented level of play.
5/5
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I'm a big fan of BigFan. Stellar job!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
i fucking hate science vessels
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Congrats! 
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Japan11721 Posts
Those erasers were huge. I like how the scourges basically avoided the vulnerable vessels 
GG sir!
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Wow, that gif is epic
Late game TvZ is probably one of the harder things to manage in StarCraft, because you have to defend such a large area while still applying pressure / scouting.
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On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels
I was thinking the same thing...
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On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels
Yes the fucking vessels won the game.
It's ok, the next game I made him hate hydras
oh shit i should make a counter BR XD
On July 05 2015 14:30 c3rberUs wrote:Those erasers were huge. I like how the scourges basically avoided the vulnerable vessels GG sir!
T_T
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On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels
words to live by?
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wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians
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On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians
pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army
*if done correctly :D
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On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army * if done correctly :D
ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above
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On July 06 2015 01:44 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army * if done correctly :D ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above
You're right he's such a noob.
luckily he's corrected his mistakes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/489438-br-click-if-you-hate-vessels
I'm the peruvian btw, was experimenting with queens for fun :D
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Fucking Science Vessels man....
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MOAR GIF BRs
This was awesome. Gratz!
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On July 06 2015 03:36 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 01:44 Endymion wrote:On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army * if done correctly :D ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above You're right he's such a noob. luckily he's corrected his mistakes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/489438-br-click-if-you-hate-vesselsI'm the peruvian btw, was experimenting with queens for fun :D
haha i expected as much that's why i pushed on :p and i was just kidding around, peruvians just have some crazy zany strats on ladder (which end up working 90% of the time), so don't take it as an insult at all
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TLADT24920 Posts
Thanks for the great comments everyone! I can only guess that those who dislike science vessels are Zerg players lol. Science vessels are fine! Defilers on the other hand, plague AND swarm against bio is painful ;;
This gif would've been twice as long and even more epic but I had to cut down on a lot of smaller engagements (lots of drops and micro scenes) to try and get it down from its original size of 475 mb. If enough readers want to see gif BRs, I can consider doing some more in the near future
edit: those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.
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On July 06 2015 05:47 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 03:36 JieXian wrote:On July 06 2015 01:44 Endymion wrote:On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army * if done correctly :D ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above You're right he's such a noob. luckily he's corrected his mistakes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/489438-br-click-if-you-hate-vesselsI'm the peruvian btw, was experimenting with queens for fun :D haha i expected as much that's why i pushed on :p and i was just kidding around, peruvians just have some crazy zany strats on ladder (which end up working 90% of the time), so don't take it as an insult at all
oh no problem i learnt some stuff from them. They have a different playstyle (a plethora of cheese) and I enjoy playing with them because they are the ones exploring the game whereas many of us copy the koreans
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Japan11721 Posts
those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.
Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^
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TLADT24920 Posts
On July 06 2015 22:35 c3rberUs wrote:Show nested quote +those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me. Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^
don't feel bad for him. He frequently dropped me in our games (ZvPs though) and does all kind of defiler and queen shenanigans lately. Him losing drones isn't a big deal! :D
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On July 06 2015 22:35 c3rberUs wrote:Show nested quote +those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me. Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^
 it's ok I have redeemed myself in the following game with an anti-vessel focus.
The next BR will make you feel worse for BigFan ^_^
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TLADT24920 Posts
On July 07 2015 03:10 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 22:35 c3rberUs wrote:those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me. Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^ it's ok I have redeemed myself in the following game with an anti-vessel focus. The next BR will make you feel worse for BigFan ^_^
yes, he played with good anti-vessel focus the next game. I lost most of my vessels haha.
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