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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 06:26:24
July 05 2015 04:19 GMT
#1
a late late late game TvZ in BW!!!!! 59 minutes long 140+ APM intensive game on Neo Electric Circuit. The game took forever to finish, because, both me and my opponent kept trading blows, armies and securing expansions only to lose them later on. I think I damaged my left wrist in the process haha. For background, I've won late game TvZ before whenever I managed to damage my opponent's third and/or fourth before defilers are out, however, in this game, I was not able to do that. My opponent double expanded early on to take a quick third after cross-spawning then took two side bases which he defended well enough early on from my drops (mostly lost sunkens or zerglings).

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Neo Electric Circuit

From then on, it was constant aggression, drops, counter attacks, avoiding ensnare and trying to irradiate everything in site while trying to micro my army in some rough situations. My macro fell apart a little before midway through the game, but, I managed to survive and macro harder than ever to stay alive and made some good decisions to take the game.

Rather than tell the tale in mu usual written battle report format, I've decided to put together a gif file that will show some of the more important engagements in an effort to clue you guys in on what transpired. My advice is to wait until the gif file completely loads before watching it.

Let the battle begin!

Hope you guys enjoyed it. Feel free to leave comments below!

*****
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 09:09:42
July 05 2015 04:26 GMT
#2
I want to add that BigFan has NEVER EVER won a late game TvZ before (in hundreds of games) that doesn't involve taking down a third or fourth in the midgame so this is a huge improvement for him.

In the following late game I learnt the lessons (since this is my first ever late late late game ZvT), and corrected many mistakes I've made, mainly to mix in hydras (and upgrade them) -- and won the late game under 40 mins If i had hydras in many of the engagements i could have taken down a ton of vessels, which I did the next time :D

Still, a great achievement for BigFan because this is a huuuuuge improvement in skill for him. Unprecedented level of play.

5/5
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
July 05 2015 04:39 GMT
#3
I'm a big fan of BigFan. Stellar job!
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37096 Posts
July 05 2015 04:54 GMT
#4
Like a boss! Well done
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 05 2015 05:00 GMT
#5
i fucking hate science vessels
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46204 Posts
July 05 2015 05:02 GMT
#6
Congrats!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 05:31:06
July 05 2015 05:30 GMT
#7
Those erasers were huge. I like how the scourges basically avoided the vulnerable vessels

GG sir!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 05 2015 05:31 GMT
#8
Wow, that gif is epic

Late game TvZ is probably one of the harder things to manage in StarCraft, because you have to defend such a large area while still applying pressure / scouting.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 05 2015 06:16 GMT
#9
On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels

I was thinking the same thing...
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 09:10:08
July 05 2015 06:41 GMT
#10
On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels


Yes the fucking vessels won the game.

It's ok, the next game I made him hate hydras

oh shit i should make a counter BR XD

On July 05 2015 14:30 c3rberUs wrote:
Those erasers were huge. I like how the scourges basically avoided the vulnerable vessels

GG sir!


T_T
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
July 05 2015 12:14 GMT
#11
On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels

words to live by?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 05 2015 12:19 GMT
#12
On July 05 2015 21:14 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels

words to live by?


Click if you hate Vessels
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
July 05 2015 14:44 GMT
#13
On July 05 2015 21:19 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2015 21:14 Cricketer12 wrote:
On July 05 2015 14:00 lichter wrote:
i fucking hate science vessels

words to live by?


Click if you hate Vessels

Such a beautiful video
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
July 05 2015 15:31 GMT
#14
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 16:35:35
July 05 2015 16:30 GMT
#15
On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians


pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army

*if done correctly :D
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
July 05 2015 16:44 GMT
#16
On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians


pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army

*if done correctly :D


ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 18:38:29
July 05 2015 18:36 GMT
#17
On July 06 2015 01:44 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:
On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians


pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army

*if done correctly :D


ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above


You're right he's such a noob.

luckily he's corrected his mistakes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/489438-br-click-if-you-hate-vessels

I'm the peruvian btw, was experimenting with queens for fun :D

Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 05 2015 19:58 GMT
#18
Fucking Science Vessels man....
Never Knows Best.
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
July 05 2015 20:32 GMT
#19
MOAR GIF BRs

This was awesome. Gratz!
"You must enemy don't know, and very good micro" - Bosstoss #Wet4Ret
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
July 05 2015 20:47 GMT
#20
On July 06 2015 03:36 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 01:44 Endymion wrote:
On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:
On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians


pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army

*if done correctly :D


ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above


You're right he's such a noob.

luckily he's corrected his mistakes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/489438-br-click-if-you-hate-vessels

I'm the peruvian btw, was experimenting with queens for fun :D



haha i expected as much that's why i pushed on :p and i was just kidding around, peruvians just have some crazy zany strats on ladder (which end up working 90% of the time), so don't take it as an insult at all
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 03:30:26
July 06 2015 03:28 GMT
#21
Thanks for the great comments everyone! I can only guess that those who dislike science vessels are Zerg players lol. Science vessels are fine! Defilers on the other hand, plague AND swarm against bio is painful ;;

This gif would've been twice as long and even more epic but I had to cut down on a lot of smaller engagements (lots of drops and micro scenes) to try and get it down from its original size of 475 mb. If enough readers want to see gif BRs, I can consider doing some more in the near future

edit: those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2015 05:38 GMT
#22
On July 06 2015 05:47 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 03:36 JieXian wrote:
On July 06 2015 01:44 Endymion wrote:
On July 06 2015 01:30 JieXian wrote:
On July 06 2015 00:31 Endymion wrote:
wtf y was zerg entangling units that weren't moving XD oh peruvians


pues...... to get a better aim and to prevent them from moving ensare + swarm = dead army

*if done correctly :D


ya but... he had like 4 queens ensnaring which is bunch of defilers for swarm and plague beyond 1 single area... or he could have bought scourge to just kill the 6 vessels above


You're right he's such a noob.

luckily he's corrected his mistakes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/489438-br-click-if-you-hate-vessels

I'm the peruvian btw, was experimenting with queens for fun :D



haha i expected as much that's why i pushed on :p and i was just kidding around, peruvians just have some crazy zany strats on ladder (which end up working 90% of the time), so don't take it as an insult at all


oh no problem i learnt some stuff from them. They have a different playstyle (a plethora of cheese) and I enjoy playing with them because they are the ones exploring the game whereas many of us copy the koreans
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11287 Posts
July 06 2015 13:35 GMT
#23
those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.

Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 06 2015 15:27 GMT
#24
On July 06 2015 22:35 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.

Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^

don't feel bad for him. He frequently dropped me in our games (ZvPs though) and does all kind of defiler and queen shenanigans lately. Him losing drones isn't a big deal! :D
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 06 2015 18:10 GMT
#25
On July 06 2015 22:35 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.

Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^


it's ok I have redeemed myself in the following game with an anti-vessel focus.

The next BR will make you feel worse for BigFan ^_^
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 06 2015 19:32 GMT
#26
On July 07 2015 03:10 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 22:35 c3rberUs wrote:
those two erasers came later in the game and were pretty big to help swing the eco advantage to me.

Yeah, those cleared like two bases full of drones. I feel bad for JieXian ^_^


it's ok I have redeemed myself in the following game with an anti-vessel focus.

The next BR will make you feel worse for BigFan ^_^

yes, he played with good anti-vessel focus the next game. I lost most of my vessels haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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