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[BW] First commentary
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FlaShFTW
United States9925 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4329 Posts
Good job on limiting your um's and ah's. Most first timers struggle with that. Try to restrain from stating the obvious such as you see the stargate being built and then you say "Oh he's building a Stargate." We just saw him build it. It's better to try and follow through on what the player is thinking when you commentate a FPVod. Ok well I saw him open 2 gate I think he'll go stargate. Some people don't like commentator's "guessing" but try to put yourself in the player's shoes which you do from time to time but not consistently enough. Good job overall. Still room to improve but you've avoided a lot of pitfalls of newer commentators. Edit: I haven't commentated in well over 3-4 years now so take what I say with a grain of salt I guess. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9925 Posts
On April 28 2015 10:02 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Try to mess around with your audio settings to isolate/remove that echoy/roboty sound that your mic is putting out. Good job on limiting your um's and ah's. Most first timers struggle with that. Try to restrain from stating the obvious such as you see the stargate being built and then you say "Oh he's building a Stargate." We just saw him build it. It's better to try and follow through on what the player is thinking when you commentate a FPVod. Ok well I saw him open 2 gate I think he'll go stargate. Some people don't like commentator's "guessing" but try to put yourself in the player's shoes which you do from time to time but not consistently enough. Good job overall. Still room to improve but you've avoided a lot of pitfalls of newer commentators. Edit: I haven't commentated in well over 3-4 years now so take what I say with a grain of salt I guess. omg psy reaver i was a huge fan when you commentated back then! thanks so much for the feedback! :D for audio, unfortunately i can only use my computer mic since i'm a poor college student who cant afford something better. ill probably buy one when i make more from my internship over the summer. again thanks so much :D | ||
Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States9925 Posts
On April 28 2015 13:25 Reptilia wrote: i dont watch much bw commentary but man this was great! very insightful commentary! enjoyed it very much, I hope there are more to come thank you so much! ill try to get at least one out a week c: | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4641 Posts
Criticism: Cast it as though you haven't seen the game yet, don't spoil information beforehand. Doing this will take away the viewer's excitement. Get a better mic. I would have liked if you put the sound a bit louder, so we hear the in game sounds a bit better and this way you'll have the option to react with what Bisu is saying or guess/making something up from what tone he is using. Make a joke for example. You talk a lot, which is great, but you're only talking about the game. It gets to a point where I feel like you are flooding your viewer with information. (Something which is great for radio, but not so much for television.) Try to provide your viewer with some background info of the players/the game. A funny fact or some statistic information for example. A great way to release tension from your stream of information about the live game and a great way to learn together with your viewer. This way you'll create a bond. Do you remember those teachers who just spam you with information for 1 hour straight? I think your commentary is comparable to that, the difference is that I love Brood War, so I don't really mind it. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9925 Posts
On April 28 2015 20:46 Peeano wrote: I generally like your casting already; very good for a first time. I like it better than Sayle's first/earlier castings. Criticism: Cast it as though you haven't seen the game yet, don't spoil information beforehand. Doing this will take away the viewer's excitement. Get a better mic. I would have liked if you put the sound a bit louder, so we hear the in game sounds a bit better and this way you'll have the option to react with what Bisu is saying or guess/making something up from what tone he is using. Make a joke for example. You talk a lot, which is great, but you're only talking about the game. It gets to a point where I feel like you are flooding your viewer with information. (Something which is great for radio, but not so much for television.) Try to provide your viewer with some background info of the players/the game. A funny fact or some statistic information for example. A great way to release tension from your stream of information about the live game and a great way to learn together with your viewer. This way you'll create a bond. Do you remember those teachers who just spam you with information for 1 hour straight? I think your commentary is comparable to that, the difference is that I love Brood War, so I don't really mind it. The commentary was more of an analysis of how he played so I was more leaning to studied how he played. idk if that changes anything, because if i were doing a standard commentary of a game where we can see both players, i wouldn't spoil anything. do you have any suggestions for cheap mics? I'm looking at like below 50 if thats even possible. will do next time! yeah, i felt that when i was getting about half way through but didnt want to change what i was doing to keep a consistent commentary. | ||
Chill
Calgary25951 Posts
Overall, I think it was really well done. The flow was good, the thoughts were well-presented and quite accurate. If I had to give two tips, they would be: 1. Don't take viewers out of the game. Hearing about the Korean commentary and it being very distracting is such a brick wall for the viewer. Suddenly I forget about listening to you and thinking about Starcraft, to thinking about the Korean voice in the background and eventually I'm thinking about you being distracted, etc. Don't be afraid to just be silent and gather your thoughts for a second or two. Which leads to... 2. Don't worry about being wrong or analysing incorrectly. If you're not sure about something, state that, make a guess, and then move on and focus on what you do know. Once you got into the action, it got good and I have no feedback for that party. Really good job and I hope you post when you release more or I would have missed this one. | ||
TelecoM
United States10621 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States9925 Posts
On April 29 2015 10:41 Chill wrote: I haven't thought about commentary for years, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Overall, I think it was really well done. The flow was good, the thoughts were well-presented and quite accurate. If I had to give two tips, they would be: 1. Don't take viewers out of the game. Hearing about the Korean commentary and it being very distracting is such a brick wall for the viewer. Suddenly I forget about listening to you and thinking about Starcraft, to thinking about the Korean voice in the background and eventually I'm thinking about you being distracted, etc. Don't be afraid to just be silent and gather your thoughts for a second or two. Which leads to... 2. Don't worry about being wrong or analysing incorrectly. If you're not sure about something, state that, make a guess, and then move on and focus on what you do know. Once you got into the action, it got good and I have no feedback for that party. Really good job and I hope you post when you release more or I would have missed this one. Thanks a bunch Chill. i remember when i first opened my youtube account, didnt have a single video but told people i would be posting things and you immediately closed my thread xD ill definitely keep posting more videos! | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4641 Posts
On April 29 2015 04:03 FlaShFTW wrote: The commentary was more of an analysis of how he played so I was more leaning to studied how he played. idk if that changes anything, because if i were doing a standard commentary of a game where we can see both players, i wouldn't spoil anything. do you have any suggestions for cheap mics? I'm looking at like below 50 if thats even possible. will do next time! yeah, i felt that when i was getting about half way through but didnt want to change what i was doing to keep a consistent commentary. Aha. I'm looking forward to see you casting a VOD. I'm using a USB logitech desktop mic. I can't give you the product number because it is nowhere to be found on the mic. Here it cost me like €20,- 3 years ago. My friend has the same one and in Skype calls the quality is really nice to me. My previous 2 microphones have been 2.5 mm jack ones and the sound quality of those were terribad. From my little experience I'd say go for a USB one by logitech... Ask the community or doing some quick research should give you a better answer. Take my criticism lightly. Just use what you want n discard the rest. I was just trying to give insight on how I'd do it. I believe there is a post by 'Paul Chaloner (born 11 November 1971), better known by his pseudonym ReDeYe, one of the world's first professional electronic sports TV commentators' on TL or reddit where he gives a complete guide on how to cast professionally. I think it revolves around LoL, but it should be a great read for anyone who is looking to improve his casting skills. | ||
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