• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:20
CEST 16:20
KST 23:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature3Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris14Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) :
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Maps with Neutral Command Centers Victoria gamers [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro24 Group A [ASL20] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2812 users

A Starcraft Breakthrough

Blogs > Doodsmack
Post a Reply
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 01 2015 04:09 GMT
#1
I've had Starcraft 2 since the midnight release in 2010. Since then I've played quite a lot, although not as much these days as before. Improvement was never something that I focused on, in the sense I never thought of my playtime as practice. I played to have fun, which also meant a lot of team games. Over time, I did notice improvement though. I remember when I first realized that I could properly macro a two base all in. It did not seem like an incremental improvement, rather a tipping point, after which I did not have to focus on macro as much in order to do it properly on 2 bases. I could then turn my attention to other things like controlling my army around the map, and execute a more complex timing attack than a 1 base all in.

Eventually in my improvement though, it felt like I hit a ceiling. That ceiling was at the mid-master level back when master was easier to get into (it was the top 2% I believe). The problem was that I could not properly macro 3 bases; that is, keep pace with production cycles while being active with my army. Once it got to a certain point in the game, when I had 3 bases humming and was attacking, I would bank thousands inevitably. Even playing for several years, this remained the case.

Just recently though, I think I passed another tipping point. I suddenly can tell that I know how to properly macro 3 bases and more. I now feel in solid control of the game into the late game. The result is a more whole awareness of the game, with the mechanics to actively meet every aspect of it. The most important thing is that I can now maintain production cycles while being as active as possible with my army. What's really cool though, is that there have been other, unexpected benefits. These are things that I did not consciously seek out, they just all the sudden came to me. So for example I now think to look at the minimap, to keep tabs on my army and my vision. I also think to keep tabs on my production cycles, keep tabs on where my rallies and reinforcements are and where they should be, keep tabs on upgrades, base defense, and the timing of further expansions beyond the 3rd. I think my apm has also increased by maybe 20 or so, again without a conscious effort to improve it.

The reason for the change must have a lot to do with improvement through repetition playing the game, but I think it also to do with my confidence in myself. This is something I've been working on over time, and now led by improvements in my job, I have just felt more confident. I think this carried over to Starcraft, and I feel more relaxed when playing, and can focus more on the game.

It's a great change, and it will probably keep me playing Starcraft for a long time to come.

*
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
April 02 2015 16:01 GMT
#2
What's your race? If it's toss, their macro is laughable compared to the other races and you should not be that proud. I mean robo constantly making and sprinkle gate units as needed is not that hard to do with multiple building selection.

User was warned for this post
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 02 2015 16:13 GMT
#3
On April 03 2015 01:01 hymn wrote:
What's your race? If it's toss, their macro is laughable compared to the other races and you should not be that proud. I mean robo constantly making and sprinkle gate units as needed is not that hard to do with multiple building selection.


You must have a lot of friends.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
April 02 2015 19:53 GMT
#4
On April 03 2015 01:01 hymn wrote:
What's your race? If it's toss, their macro is laughable compared to the other races and you should not be that proud. I mean robo constantly making and sprinkle gate units as needed is not that hard to do with multiple building selection.

User was warned for this post

Not only that, but the overpowered nature of the race means you will naturally get much better once you figure out how to exploit the imbalance. Wait, is Protoss still OP?

OT though I think the tipping point is usually once you've internalized all the timings, statistics, and basic builds in any game. For example, if you see your opponent in a 1v1 PvT with no attack upgrade while you have an armor upgrade advantage, you will know instinctively that a direct fight will be in your favor, and you'll posture accordingly. Or if a warpgate cycle is 30 seconds, eventually you remember to only check your warpgates after that amount of time (not every 5 seconds -- a savings in APM of 83%). Those things were what got me to the point of rarely slipping up on macro. Improvements in APM were to me much less significant.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
#3
CranKy Ducklings346
SteadfastSC249
IndyStarCraft 195
Rex152
IntoTheiNu 32
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko449
SteadfastSC 249
IndyStarCraft 195
Rex 152
Trikslyr39
ProTech17
EnDerr 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 42502
Rain 10258
Bisu 2198
PianO 2035
Shuttle 999
EffOrt 867
firebathero 638
hero 328
Stork 325
Snow 302
[ Show more ]
ZerO 299
Light 245
BeSt 243
actioN 238
Mini 233
ggaemo 200
Barracks 168
Soma 121
Nal_rA 111
Hyun 100
Soulkey 95
Hyuk 94
Mind 90
JYJ64
ToSsGirL 62
Sea.KH 47
Movie 41
TY 36
[sc1f]eonzerg 36
soO 27
Free 17
Sacsri 14
scan(afreeca) 13
IntoTheRainbow 10
Bale 10
Terrorterran 10
HiyA 6
NaDa 5
Dota 2
Gorgc5840
syndereN449
XcaliburYe406
KheZu146
League of Legends
Dendi1004
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1785
zeus652
kRYSTAL_80
edward72
Other Games
B2W.Neo2472
hiko820
Liquid`VortiX215
RotterdaM164
QueenE157
XaKoH 136
djWHEAT93
ArmadaUGS78
FrodaN73
KnowMe65
ZerO(Twitch)18
rGuardiaN17
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2458
• WagamamaTV472
League of Legends
• Nemesis2862
• Jankos1314
Upcoming Events
BSL Team Wars
4h 40m
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
12h 40m
CranKy Ducklings
19h 40m
SC Evo League
21h 40m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
22h 40m
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
CSO Cup
1d 1h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 3h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
SC Evo League
1d 21h
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
herO vs TBD
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSLAN 3
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.