300 games with Vengeful Spirit - Page 3

On March 25 2015 02:04 Plansix wrote:
I just like how you have killed 602 heroes more than you have stunned. That is 602 heroes that you were just like “fuck it, hit me back and see how that works out for you.” I would expect the numbers to be reversed.

Edit: what dark magic is this shadowblade/bloodstone venomancer? This man is a legend.

On March 25 2015 02:45 Yurie wrote:


Plansix, the gems were added at different times. Compare the two images.

On March 25 2015 00:53 Alur wrote:
The nazgul of venomancers:
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/80557194/matches

On March 25 2015 02:45 Yurie wrote:


Plansix, the gems were added at different times. Compare the two images.

On March 24 2015 14:53 Blackfeather wrote:


i'm not super high mmr, but I can give my opinion:

1) In general stacking hard camps or Ancients is ideal. Most Heroes which can flash-farm stacked camps use spells (like Lina, Batrider, Chen and ench, SF) to do so, so stacking hard camps is preferred because you cant get mud golems. Unless you triple chain pull on radiant either hard camp is fine, but in general it's better to stack the camps close to the midlane on radiant and close to the t2s at dire because they are harder to contest.
In order to clear ancient camps well you need a right-click hero who has some kind of aoe or at least range. Examples include anything that goes for bfury, Luna, Gyrocopter, Sven, TA. Heroes that have a physical spammable aoe nuke like bristle, axe, tide work as well. Most heroes who go for lifesteal like Void, Pa, Naix are solid as well.

2) Forcestaff, blink, medallion or urn are the usual first item choices after the standard courier-upgrade -> tp -> brown boots -> wand core.

3) I usually skip both on my #5 and stick to brown boots, but i see lots of people do otherwise. OP could probably give you more insight.

4) VS is rather flexible, but usually you want at least one big right-clicker to use her two amplification spells. She also works well with heroes like Bristle and Axe who deal physical damage and therefore profit from her wave. You can also easily use her in minus armor- or aura-stats. SF gets a special mention because he likes everything Venge does.
I also like to pick her when I dont want to waste a ban and want to pick something she counters, like batrider, faceless void or to a lesser extent enigma.
I think she's very well rounded overall and gives you a littlebit of everything (scales well, amplifies teammates, makes rosh easier, ok as aggressive support as well as defensive especially after lvl 6/11).

5) game dependent. If your lanes are doing fine stacking and pulling. If your safelane is doing fine but the other two not so much and you could make an impact by roaming (aka the lane you roam to has killing potential with you and/or you have a good other aggressive support roaming with you), roaming. If your safelane needs you to get farm, zoning.
If you cant zone bc their offlane is to strong roaming is usually the better choice than staying in the lane and leech xp.

Just my 2 cent, take them with a grain of salt.

On March 23 2015 20:35 disciple wrote:
So yeah, I played 300 games with one of the most one dimensional and boring heroes in Dota2, in most of the cases as a solid position 6.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/131465760/matches?date=&hero=vengeful-spirit&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=

My winrate moves between 57-58%, depending if im solo queuing or playing in a stack - obviously if you are playing selfless 6th position support communication is super important. So if there are other diehard support players who enjoy buying wards all game, swapping their carries out of trouble and dying in the process - you are not alone. I genuinely love supporting and I wish more people appreciate players who will rather have the entire map warded all game than getting a quick force staff.