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300 games with Vengeful Spirit

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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
March 23 2015 11:35 GMT
#1
So yeah, I played 300 games with one of the most one dimensional and boring heroes in Dota2, in most of the cases as a solid position 6.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/131465760/matches?date=&hero=vengeful-spirit&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=

My winrate moves between 57-58%, depending if im solo queuing or playing in a stack - obviously if you are playing selfless 6th position support communication is super important. So if there are other diehard support players who enjoy buying wards all game, swapping their carries out of trouble and dying in the process - you are not alone. I genuinely love supporting and I wish more people appreciate players who will rather have the entire map warded all game than getting a quick force staff.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
March 23 2015 11:53 GMT
#2
wow just wow
this is a quote
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 23 2015 12:10 GMT
#3
Vindictive ex-girlfriend?

That's a lot of VS games, Jesus. I enjoy supports who ward and such, I like playing those. But I like more the free-roaming of them. Like Ogre Magi, I love playing because you don't have to sit in your lane and do nothing.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 13:02 GMT
#4
On March 23 2015 21:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
Vindictive ex-girlfriend?

That's a lot of VS games, Jesus. I enjoy supports who ward and such, I like playing those. But I like more the free-roaming of them. Like Ogre Magi, I love playing because you don't have to sit in your lane and do nothing.

I think they can both roam. Venge and Orge have almost identical stun ranges and moment speeds. I don't think you would have any problems roaming with VS.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-24 02:24:50
March 23 2015 13:41 GMT
#5
So little solo kill potential with this hero makes it really boring to play :S
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 23 2015 13:42 GMT
#6
On March 23 2015 22:02 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 21:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
Vindictive ex-girlfriend?

That's a lot of VS games, Jesus. I enjoy supports who ward and such, I like playing those. But I like more the free-roaming of them. Like Ogre Magi, I love playing because you don't have to sit in your lane and do nothing.

I think they can both roam. Venge and Orge have almost identical stun ranges and moment speeds. I don't think you would have any problems roaming with VS.

they can, but ogre has a bit more trouble since hes melee and has a longer cast animation. wave of terror is very good for chasing too
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 23 2015 13:48 GMT
#7
so disciple is mr venge
nazgul is mr bloodseeker
kennigit is mr disruptor

wats with all these (former) tl bigwigs maining one champ
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 14:07 GMT
#8
Easy to play, hard to master. Well except blood seeker, that hero isn't rocket science.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 23 2015 14:51 GMT
#9
You are quite right. Venge can't exactly make plays either, so the hero feels boring and all you can do is throw the occasional stun and swap an enemy hero or save your ally with a swap.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 15:08:39
March 23 2015 15:05 GMT
#10
Nazgul has over 1000 games on BS, I will never reach that with venge.

I play mid on radiant every now and then - you can stack the ancients without leaving the lane with wave. Useful if you have tide or luna on the team. Also venge does pretty ok against pudge but obviously gets fucked hard by other popular mids like sniper and lina
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44312 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 17:33:16
March 23 2015 17:32 GMT
#11
On March 24 2015 00:05 disciple wrote:
Nazgul has over 1000 games on BS, I will never reach that with venge.

I play mid on radiant every now and then - you can stack the ancients without leaving the lane with wave. Useful if you have tide or luna on the team. Also venge does pretty ok against pudge but obviously gets fucked hard by other popular mids like sniper and lina

WHAT?!?

holy shit how did he manage to play that many .. i mean it's not about winning with the hero but more of how the fuck did he not get bored of it


On March 23 2015 22:48 ahswtini wrote:
so disciple is mr venge
nazgul is mr bloodseeker
kennigit is mr disruptor

wats with all these (former) tl bigwigs maining one champ

how much games does kennigit have with disruptor?
this is a quote
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 23 2015 17:53 GMT
#12
And I thought playing venge for 98/99 straight times was hard core. Someone instapicked venge for the 99th or 100th game, so yeah that kinda pissed me off. Most of those games were on Solo Queue.

imo, if you dual roam with venge with another aggressive support like Ogre, Skywrath, etc. You can go 1-2-2-1 so you guys can get from the right clicks. leveling up the stun just drains the manapool faster. Also, you can stun-wave-stun if someone tps in to chase.

But damn, it's always nice to see fellow position 6 players around )
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12178 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 18:05:27
March 23 2015 17:58 GMT
#13
I have over 300 games on WD, but it is spread over different accounts. The one with the most is the below one. My main account isn't enabled for third party sites but has exactly 100 WD games and 152 Enigma ones.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/133059304 I gave that account away to a fellow TL user. Prior to that it only had WD games.

I generally like position 4 a lot. Some warding, some ganking, a bit of farming, nice ultis. The best of all worlds. Jungle is also nice since it is a soft start to the game.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 23 2015 18:33 GMT
#14
I have ~250 games on disruptor. Nothing compared to Naz's insanity
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12178 Posts
March 23 2015 18:34 GMT
#15
Is the reason why we have no TL team because nobody is willing to pick Blood seeker every single game?
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 18:41:39
March 23 2015 18:41 GMT
#16
One time I saw Nazgul pick BloodSeeker in an inhouse, and he destroyed everyone. We then said he could not pick BloodSeeker anymore since these inhouses were supposed to be fun

Then he randomed BloodSeeker the next game...

Literally a true story.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2015 18:44 GMT
#17


Confirms 250 games for lord disruptor.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
March 23 2015 18:45 GMT
#18
He already posted in this thread.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
March 23 2015 18:46 GMT
#19
On March 24 2015 03:41 TheEmulator wrote:
One time I saw Nazgul pick BloodSeeker in an inhouse, and he destroyed everyone. We then said he could not pick BloodSeeker anymore since these inhouses were supposed to be fun

Then he randomed BloodSeeker the next game...

Literally a true story.

I can confirm that happened
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Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
March 23 2015 18:54 GMT
#20
I am just beginning to learn about DotA and I have only been playing VS (around 30 games thus far). I have a couple of questions:

1) Any tips how to double stack jungle with wave? Which camps are best to stack as a safe lane support?
2) What items do you go for?
3) What determines when you get Tranqs or Treads?
4) Which other heroes synergise well with VS?
5) What should I focus on in the early game: stacking, zoning, or roaming?

I am a low skill/casual player who likes to 3-5 stack with my friends. But I do like watch and learn about Dota2. So any help would be appreciated.
If anyone has any serious prayer requests please PM me. Thx.
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