EPTOn February 13 2015 14:13 ChunderBoy wrote:
one of my 7k friends had a 40ish winstreak in 4-5k bracket, u might think that it sounds hard to do but if someone is 2k-3k above the bracket theyre playing in its rly rly rly rly rly rly easy to 1v9
one of my 7k friends had a 40ish winstreak in 4-5k bracket, u might think that it sounds hard to do but if someone is 2k-3k above the bracket theyre playing in its rly rly rly rly rly rly easy to 1v9
it's called meepo. not hard at ALL, and alot more than your friend are catching on. funny thing is i may know your friend or have played with him and against him. what's his name? ink? devilish or meepodota. or is it dragonfist who was a person i used to play with and thought was bad until i found out he was never meant to be a support player but a mid player, but he too has only 1 hero. if he has a variety of heroes, has done 40 wins straight, and is not doing it in party MMR, then he is worthy to learn from. but you can't learn much without actually watching the replay yourself with first person perspective.
these guys only know 1 hero generally and arguably meepo by community standards is the hardest cause it has 5 heroes to control, but i'd argue if you learned him properly from the beginning and didn't have the discrimination of controlling 5 units is difficult, it wouldn't be.
another thing to note your friend's 6k mmr is horseshit if it's party MMR, it could be 10k MMR and it won't amount to anything if it's party. the only reliability for party mmr is when he's placed in LAN or NEL, and NEL is as abandoned as an old warehouse even i can do that, it's not hard to 5 stack ranked pubs and fuck wipe the competition for months on end. there's no credibility in organized pubs vs disorganized pubs thrown together. we are only talking about SOLO mmr, and as far as solo goes, after about going at least above 5.8k, it's all the same. it's really who gets the worser teammates at that point and what valve's MM decides to give you.
i used to play in the mornings ironically at the time EG.Fear wakes up / PPD, i'd get them about 5-7 AM US-E, just to catch them in SOLO Q, NEL is damn dead but i'm guessing it's re surging, i'm not sure. NEL would be as good an indicator outside LAN and SEC tournaments if it was more active. but you will see the difference if you play with someone like PPD, Fear, universe and why MMR does not hold a dime to their actual skill.
wanna mention who your friend is? high probability i know him cause i generally knew anyone who was listed in top 50 NA. but i will say the only people worth watching or learning from aren't pub players that's for sure. he'd have to be at least top 10, and capable of beign consistent in LAN or else you're wasting your time learning someone else's bad habits for a short burst in success. even if the guy was TOP 10 SOLO MMR, if it's only 1 hero, its not worth it. there were a few kids who charged for MMR, i've done a few jobs, but eventually gave it up cause i didn't see myself fit to be consistent enough to win by pay. ironically i'd rather watch and learn from those guys who are successful at charging for MMR because they actually know more about what it takes to control chaotic variable in a 5 man game.
@ ffgeneration
sorry if i sound like a dick or if i'm being overly critical. i'm giving you a direct and honest answer of the nature of dota since i was a captain who made appearances in SEC and has played pros on the daily only to give it up after 4 years of not being successful. (longer than 4 years if i add dota 1 days)
if you are to take advice, i advise you that it is WORST for you to take bad advice then receive semi-good advice. the credibility of the advice DOES matter as the guys who tell you how to get good, often times can't do it themselves, so bits of bad information get mixed in with the advice they regurgitate about pros. this is why casters are frowned upon. look at pro replays yourself of 1 pro player you admire, COPY HIM and try to break down continually why he was successful / not successful and executive it yourself until you attain partially of what he has. i can say for certain if you do this long enough you will break up to 4k+ if you can break to 4k, 5k is no harder.
the pro player being relevant DOES matter, you don't want to learn from someone who has outdated mindsets and strategies or never figured it out vs others who are equal to his skill level. my advice will get you to 5k, from then on you can scrap what i've told you and think for yourself, regardless of which, i'm not giving you advice where it's not a universally accepted, since most pro players do this automatically for their job guys like ppd and bulba watch the fuck out of other teams just to know their movements, drafts and habits. you are merely doing it to improve yourself and it's a much smaller and mangeable task.
other fundamentals, practice your last hitting, every game be conscious about not missing a last hit to the best of your ability WHILE knowing when to TP and help team. this is a hard one and i'll let you figure it out.
then you want to increase map awareness ALONG with communication. and predict movement. call your MIAS...so your team does so as well, lead by example. communicate your plans or actions or if you are passive / when you can help / what items you need before you are ready to take fights, what level you require. you often will get bad and good feed back and i can't help you unless you can sort that out yourself.
communicate your offensive as well, meaning start predicting what your own ALLYS and the other team will do, what are the only probable movements that are logical? outside of drafting this is where chess comes into play.
the more you do this and develop the mind of a captain the higher your win rate will become because now you're not only factoring in your own play, you move according to the progress of the game and your teammates whether they are compliant or non compliant. failing to factor in your team is losing mindlessly.
at the end of the day if i had your MMR, with my experience, i wouldn't grind it. i'd make a new account. but that won't happen cause i've taken measures to ensure i don't ever remotely can drop under 5k while being active. you might just have to grind it out only to comprehend the skill needed to hold and progress....good luck. brace yourself it is one of the most difficult journeys i've taken and it will exhaust you mentally like any elite sport will.
further resources
read TL: art of support or w/e. gain depth on roles outside your own so you know to best move, when to play passive, what you can push the envelope on, what their supprots are going to do to you, and when. the articles on liquid i can verify as being a very very experienced view point. i'm sure some of them are also competitive players with high mmr that's all i can say. but that's the only resource i can verify on
there was also a Mid player guide on solo mid something somethign Q....i'm a mid player and that guide was simply amazing despite being outdated, lots of new tricks now...
