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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-03 21:22:00
January 03 2015 21:19 GMT
#1
Hmmm, I debated starting this bc i can only type with one hand, so I am working painfully slow. However, I am genuinely curious to see who would be interested in seeing how well i can play DOTA with my only usable hand.

Background:

I broke my scaphoid and am in a cast that goes up to my mid bicep on my left arm. This means I can only use my right hand to play. Luckily, I have a Razer Naga which allowed me to move hotkeys to the side of my mouse.

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Unfortunately this means I can really only use one or two buttons in sequence effectively. I have no control groups. I cannot micro.

So, my question is...is there any interest in me blogging my experiences on a separate smurf account to see how high I can get my mmr using my right hand only? Streaming, etc? Let me know!

-Bluemoon
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
January 03 2015 22:22 GMT
#2
damn, how long is it going to take to heal?
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 03 2015 22:29 GMT
#3
it will be 2-3 months in a cast unfortunately...and lord knows i cannot go without dota for that long lol
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7053 Posts
January 04 2015 00:26 GMT
#4
I'd be interested.

You should only play wraith king.
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
January 04 2015 00:56 GMT
#5
That's too bad about your hand! Personally I think I'd try to play some games more suited for one handed play, but the passion for dota seems strong in this one.


Also:
On January 04 2015 09:26 tehh4ck3r wrote:
I'd be interested.

only play wraith king


oh god how do these two fit together lol.

BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 04:27:23
January 04 2015 04:27 GMT
#6
i played wraith king once but it wasnt as satisfying as sniper or techies were. mostly due to the fact that both of those heroes are so obnoxious. i get a rise out of it lol

i also wanna test my limits and see if i can play more complicated heroes as i get better with one hand.

i have been looking for games i can play casually, but thats no fun for me. hearthstone is too rng and single player isnt nearly as engaging.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11923 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 07:32:30
January 04 2015 07:32 GMT
#7
I think you can play any hero well with one hand. You just need to use down times to drop the items into the quick buy area so you can quickly click on them. Also pick less active items than normal so you don't have them and the skills to use.

I think you will drop 200 mmr and then stabilize there. It isn't that big of a difference not using the keyboard. The biggest problem is probably no chat wheel, if you can bind that to a mouse button you should be good to go (or since you are on US server you can use the mic to communicate).
kevymon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States32 Posts
January 04 2015 08:30 GMT
#8
why can't you just set static control groups on your mouse like 1 for hero 2 for courier 3 for all 4 all other units
BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
January 04 2015 14:19 GMT
#9
On January 04 2015 13:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
i played wraith king once but it wasnt as satisfying as sniper or techies were. mostly due to the fact that both of those heroes are so obnoxious. i get a rise out of it lol

i also wanna test my limits and see if i can play more complicated heroes as i get better with one hand.

i have been looking for games i can play casually, but thats no fun for me. hearthstone is too rng and single player isnt nearly as engaging.


lmfao i love how you described sniper/techies and why you enjoyed playing them, good on you xD

If what you want to do wont hurt you in any way in terms of healing then sure go for it :~) If it's more a pain then an enjoyment for you then I'd recommend against it.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 14:45:25
January 04 2015 14:43 GMT
#10
On January 04 2015 17:30 kevymon wrote:
why can't you just set static control groups on your mouse like 1 for hero 2 for courier 3 for all 4 all other units


i only have enough room for my abilities. that gives me 1 button for opening voice (since it takes me 10 years to type)

i suppose i have 1 key i can use for a control group though, maybe i will set that to my hero for when im clicking on heroes.

On January 04 2015 16:32 Yurie wrote:
I think you can play any hero well with one hand. You just need to use down times to drop the items into the quick buy area so you can quickly click on them. Also pick less active items than normal so you don't have them and the skills to use.

I think you will drop 200 mmr and then stabilize there. It isn't that big of a difference not using the keyboard. The biggest problem is probably no chat wheel, if you can bind that to a mouse button you should be good to go (or since you are on US server you can use the mic to communicate).


idk about any hero. even with quick cast, not having more than one finger to execute ability combos is difficult. think about heroes like LC who want to use press the attack, blademail, blink, then ulti all in the span of a split second. i potentially could learn to do this but definitely cannot right now. but that would be the fun of this little project

On January 04 2015 23:19 BongChambers wrote:
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On January 04 2015 13:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
i played wraith king once but it wasnt as satisfying as sniper or techies were. mostly due to the fact that both of those heroes are so obnoxious. i get a rise out of it lol

i also wanna test my limits and see if i can play more complicated heroes as i get better with one hand.

i have been looking for games i can play casually, but thats no fun for me. hearthstone is too rng and single player isnt nearly as engaging.


lmfao i love how you described sniper/techies and why you enjoyed playing them, good on you xD

If what you want to do wont hurt you in any way in terms of healing then sure go for it :~) If it's more a pain then an enjoyment for you then I'd recommend against it.


the only thing that will be hurt by playing only with the mouse is my ego when i fuck up bc im slow as a sloth when using my abilities lol. but yeah, its gonna also have to be about fun since im gonna be super frustrated with my control setup!
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11923 Posts
January 04 2015 15:07 GMT
#11
On January 04 2015 23:43 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 16:32 Yurie wrote:
I think you can play any hero well with one hand. You just need to use down times to drop the items into the quick buy area so you can quickly click on them. Also pick less active items than normal so you don't have them and the skills to use.

I think you will drop 200 mmr and then stabilize there. It isn't that big of a difference not using the keyboard. The biggest problem is probably no chat wheel, if you can bind that to a mouse button you should be good to go (or since you are on US server you can use the mic to communicate).


idk about any hero. even with quick cast, not having more than one finger to execute ability combos is difficult. think about heroes like LC who want to use press the attack, blademail, blink, then ulti all in the span of a split second. i potentially could learn to do this but definitely cannot right now. but that would be the fun of this little project


I would likely not build a ganking LC. Even though that is what the hero is good at. I would build items I can use optimally, even if that might not suit the hero perfectly. Getting just the blink without another active item before hh/bkb/hex/abyssal could also be an option. You won't solo stuff as easily but can still do good ganks with an ally.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 04 2015 15:15 GMT
#12
yeah i think part of the challenge will be relearning how to play heroes a different way. i LOVE my blink dagger...now that is much more difficult for me to justify purchasing. lothar will be more commonly picked up too (an item i very rarely purchase).

thankfully i moved to an all quick cast setup (with x bound to tp being the only non-quickcast key). the only problem is that the buttons on the side of my mouse are not meant to pressed quickly as far as i can tell..they are a little clunky. luckily, if i wanted to play lc, i have a good friend who loves playing lina...only need to press r then let him do the work lol.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 05 2015 06:40 GMT
#13
try invoker for the lols
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
January 05 2015 09:44 GMT
#14
did you try jug?
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 12:54:58
January 05 2015 12:54 GMT
#15
i will not play invoker bc i can tell ya right now, i can't really mash combos on my mouse lol..huskar with a bkb was a challenge so far..still did well with that.

i did try jugg however, i was in a dual lane w/ lina vs spectre, dazzle, and lion. we secureda double kill early, but my ogre insisted on staying top to help drow 1v1, ganked mid by face rushing uphill, and refused to come bottom for ez support kills. double stun plus bladefury would have been broken.

instead, drow constantly ran off solo and got killed while i was frequently left for dead by my zeus and ogre.

on the plus side, mechanically it worked out. when we played as a team i ghot several good omnislashes and kills. i just had a really slow start, not being able to last hit at all.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
January 06 2015 15:29 GMT
#16
Ok, I'm not trying to make you feel bad, but Blitz is playing Storm one-handed on stream right now, he had a 10 minute orchid and is 11/1/2 15 minutes in lmfao
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 16:35:31
January 06 2015 16:33 GMT
#17
was he playing on his main account? that's actually awesome. vod me please, im super interested!

im at work now but ill post one or two of my matches where I was at like 700gpm, fully loaded at 30 min. rapiers were had and the fact that I was working with one hand was glorious!
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
January 06 2015 22:12 GMT
#18
what mmr are you playing at?
i'd love to see meepo hahaha
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 00:19:47
January 07 2015 00:18 GMT
#19
~4-4.5k. i exclusively play unranked, but have been matched with 5k players (e.g. fitzyhere, ex sc2 GM zerg).

my solo ranked is ~3.5k, but those games are usually where i dick around. im backwards bc i was usually in a 4 stack and we were banished from ranked play

this is the kind of game i get from my solo ranked tier

this is the kind of game i play when i play in my usual tier

both of these were 1 handed.

my meepo at this level would be nearly impossible unless i completely ignored net. i could farm like normal probably but mass poofs would require a macro, but i refuse to stoop that low even in this state
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 09 2015 02:24 GMT
#20
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1150236005

i'm the juggernaut bitch!

panic mode when your one finger controls all of your abilities is not easy. rough start into putting the team on my back asnd holding them there with one hand.

good recommendation!
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 10 2015 01:31 GMT
#21
You must change your hand posture.

Rotate your hand a bit to have 2 fingers on the side of your mouse! Now you have 2 fingers for abilities!

It's like using the gamepad "claw" technique that people used on PSP to play Monster Hunter.
[image loading]

The worst to adapt is probably the need to use the middle finger for the left clicks. But it's a good trade-off.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
January 10 2015 11:35 GMT
#22
On January 09 2015 11:24 BluemoonSC wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1150236005

i'm the juggernaut bitch!

panic mode when your one finger controls all of your abilities is not easy. rough start into putting the team on my back asnd holding them there with one hand.

good recommendation!


wp.

you said you can play sniper. jug is melee sniper. i think u put same effort for playing both.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
January 10 2015 12:23 GMT
#23
ahahhaha this blog owns love the jugg game

wheres my spacecow
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 10 2015 15:12 GMT
#24
On January 10 2015 21:23 eieio wrote:
ahahhaha this blog owns love the jugg game

wheres my spacecow


http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1136413608

i go full xboct when i play spirit breaker and get way aggressive, this was a fun one.

this game was played with two of my friends who dont play as much (and billy mays, who i stack with a bunch) so it was pretty wonky. i roamed a bunch and put some pressure on the map since top lane had a trilane with plenty of ways to stop charge. i gave our am a great start and he got a 12 min battlefury! but he wanted to join in on the fun we were having and his next item, a yasha, came at 23 min so, he couldn't out carry or split push with the space and they just blew us up. he got farm at the end bc we were able to wipe em a couple times, but it took some buy backs and we couldn't hold megas.

overall though it was a fun game, i just want to play sb with a big stack..i should also play a lot better now since im more used to mashing buttons on the side of my mouse! thanks for the love!

On January 10 2015 10:31 TMG26 wrote:
You must change your hand posture.

Rotate your hand a bit to have 2 fingers on the side of your mouse! Now you have 2 fingers for abilities!

It's like using the gamepad "claw" technique that people used on PSP to play Monster Hunter.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The worst to adapt is probably the need to use the middle finger for the left clicks. But it's a good trade-off.


i am in a thumb spica cast that goes up to my elbow. this is what i look like

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


now it looks like my fingers are free and i just cant use my thumb..but the cast is up to my elbow, so i cannot rotate my wrist enough to place my 4 free fingers on the keyboard. occasionally i will use my pinky to set something on quick buy w/ shift or buy out before i die w/ space but it hurts (im incredibly stiff and sore <3 painkillers)..so i may adjust my hotkeys slightly. i have a free one to use to center myself on my hero but i can just use the mouse i suppose.

On January 10 2015 20:35 lastpuritan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:24 BluemoonSC wrote:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1150236005

i'm the juggernaut bitch!

panic mode when your one finger controls all of your abilities is not easy. rough start into putting the team on my back asnd holding them there with one hand.

good recommendation!


wp.

you said you can play sniper. jug is melee sniper. i think u put same effort for playing both.


yes! ive taken a break from sniper to try jugg bc you are right, they take mostly the same effort..but i think that jugg is more of a top tier pick. maybe i'll post my one handed hero ranking

whew that took forever to type...with one hand lol! thank you so much for the interest guys i really appreciate it . i'm setting up my stream so i'll post a blog that announces this, complete with cam on my mouse so you can see me spaz out when 3 heroes jump me XD
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 16:48:06
January 10 2015 16:47 GMT
#25

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 10:31 TMG26 wrote:
You must change your hand posture.

Rotate your hand a bit to have 2 fingers on the side of your mouse! Now you have 2 fingers for abilities!

It's like using the gamepad "claw" technique that people used on PSP to play Monster Hunter.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The worst to adapt is probably the need to use the middle finger for the left clicks. But it's a good trade-off.


i am in a thumb spica cast that goes up to my elbow. this is what i look like

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


now it looks like my fingers are free and i just cant use my thumb..but the cast is up to my elbow, so i cannot rotate my wrist enough to place my 4 free fingers on the keyboard. occasionally i will use my pinky to set something on quick buy w/ shift or buy out before i die w/ space but it hurts (im incredibly stiff and sore <3 painkillers)..so i may adjust my hotkeys slightly. i have a free one to use to center myself on my hero but i can just use the mouse i suppose.


You misunderstood what i said.

My sugestion is to rotate your mouse hand a bit, use 2 fingers on your naga's hotkeys. Basically use all of your five fingers available. Middle finger on left click, the two to the left on naga's hotkeys, the other two get the scroll and right click.

Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 10 2015 17:41 GMT
#26
On January 11 2015 01:47 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +

On January 10 2015 10:31 TMG26 wrote:
You must change your hand posture.

Rotate your hand a bit to have 2 fingers on the side of your mouse! Now you have 2 fingers for abilities!

It's like using the gamepad "claw" technique that people used on PSP to play Monster Hunter.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The worst to adapt is probably the need to use the middle finger for the left clicks. But it's a good trade-off.


i am in a thumb spica cast that goes up to my elbow. this is what i look like

+ Show Spoiler +
&#91;image loading&#93;


now it looks like my fingers are free and i just cant use my thumb..but the cast is up to my elbow, so i cannot rotate my wrist enough to place my 4 free fingers on the keyboard. occasionally i will use my pinky to set something on quick buy w/ shift or buy out before i die w/ space but it hurts (im incredibly stiff and sore <3 painkillers)..so i may adjust my hotkeys slightly. i have a free one to use to center myself on my hero but i can just use the mouse i suppose.


You misunderstood what i said.

My sugestion is to rotate your mouse hand a bit, use 2 fingers on your naga's hotkeys. Basically use all of your five fingers available. Middle finger on left click, the two to the left on naga's hotkeys, the other two get the scroll and right click.



i did completely misunderstand..i saw the diagram w/ the left hand and wasn't sure what you meant lol. blame the pain killers [image loading]

i tried that posture and it was suuuuuuper awkward. it'll be easier and more successful for me to play easier heroes i think
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
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