On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
I recommend re-reading what EE said
Thus, tournaments have all started having long group stages so that people would find more value in their ticket. Tournaments like DH/MLG who used to invite teams to their tournaments now all have qualifiers.
in other words, EE is complaining that tournaments are adding qualifiers, not getting rid of them.
I really hope this gets some real attention, I feel the same way as a viewer. I can't bring myself to care about qualifiers for any tournament anymore, because there's so many of them and it's nearly impossible to keep track of. How can we expect the players to put their heart and soul into every game when there's another game against another team in a different tournament 2 hours after this one? And again 3 hours after that? I would say I'm surprised teams aren't just playing official matches all day every day, but I know that is actually happening quite frequently, as EE-sama confirms.
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
wat? who is forced to withdraw?! and you dont have to get rid of them completely. just have one or two qualifier spots. the na and sea region need a qualifier but you could invite less teams to play in it. or use a different tournament system instead of round robin
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
Oh I'm sorry. So four of the most successful teams are complaining that they're playing too many games and are reeeeeaallly uncomfortable about it? Holy shit guy, you are absolutely right!
Let's just give them all the wins, god forbid that they learn the werewithal to actually decline a tourney when their mortal bodies start to fail them!
Alright, I'll respond to this even though it's obvious flamebait
Take D2L for instance. It's previous 2013-14 iteration had the great Fnatic + Aui/Demon LAN run as well as a pretty good build up and good Chinese teams(VG and the last tourney of old LGD). It's current iteration lacks all 5 of these top teams (outside of contractually obligated EG) and you can see the huge viewership declines. On Reddit/LD/other dota forums, you rarely get any mention of the matches, even though Ayesee has improved and Tralf is a good co-caster. I think it's pretty indicative of what will happen to a lot of the t2 tourneys when these teams start sitting out
ok let me compose myself for a second then and be less hostile. My issue with this blog is not the oversaturation of tourneys. It's his claim that it's oversaturated.
There are more orgs this year, and the year before that. We can't stop that from happening, because the game is growing at a fast rate. People are going to start throwing money at dota because they've seen it work and profit. But instead of having foresight and common sense to decline invites with conflicting schedules with other tourneys, THEY DO THE OPPOSITE. And then act like the orgs pointed a gun to their heads to accept, so it's their fault they are burning out rofl do you see how absurd it is?
So say no. Whatever happens to the tourneys they declined, happens. Maybe they lose money because of the lesser viewership. Or maybe some tier 2 team gets the chance to shine and pave the way to more viewers. But stop acting like spoiled children that had no say to this outcome, when in fact you had every oppurtunity to prevent it.
They aren't talking about how the "tourneys forced them" if anything EE has mentioned how he wanted to play in as many officials as possible since he was trying to get better and build a reputation. Most of the new money as he mentions, is from people who want the bundled items, the actual discussion of tournament matches outside of big lan finals has decreased if anything.
EE is not complaining about too many tournaments, he's complaining about how the system works right now. Teams know they have to perform well to get to TI so they play in as many tournaments as possible to boost their odds. Tourneys now have huge qualifier schedules that make it so that they're playing officials all day.
Even though I dislike both teams, I can admit that people got really hype when old Alliance v Na'Vi happened since "el clasico" was a relatively rare occasion. That's what EE is trying to point to when he mentions how people used to view pro matches
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
wat? who is forced to withdraw?! and you dont have to get rid of them completely. just have one or two qualifier spots. the na and sea region need a qualifier but you could invite less teams to play in it. or use a different tournament system instead of round robin
Teams in a lot of tourneys are force to withdraw since, it's difficult to play in all tournaments if they need to play qualifiers for all of them. Hell 4ASC had to do that with Dreamleague vs. Dota Pit League
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
Thus, tournaments have all started having long group stages so that people would find more value in their ticket. Tournaments like DH/MLG who used to invite teams to their tournaments now all have qualifiers.
in other words, EE is complaining that tournaments are adding qualifiers, not getting rid of them.
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
wat? who is forced to withdraw?! and you dont have to get rid of them completely. just have one or two qualifier spots. the na and sea region need a qualifier but you could invite less teams to play in it. or use a different tournament system instead of round robin
Teams in a lot of tourneys are force to withdraw since, it's difficult to play in all tournaments if they need to play qualifiers for all of them. Hell 4ASC had to do that with Dreamleague vs. Dota Pit League
ah and i thought my english sucked :D i said that qualifiers are the problem. so we kinda agree eh?
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
wat? who is forced to withdraw?! and you dont have to get rid of them completely. just have one or two qualifier spots. the na and sea region need a qualifier but you could invite less teams to play in it. or use a different tournament system instead of round robin
Yes, the endless qualifiers need to end. I can accept that EG, Navi, C9 and Secret + a few other teams will be invited. These teams shouldn't' be played 30 matches just to qualify to play another 15-30 matches.
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
and how does that matter? dont complain about having to play too many tournaments and star choosing the ones you want to attend -> the whole "issue" solves itself
It's more that a lot of the responses in this thread have been making fun of EE or attacking his personal character instead of focusing on the issues he brings up.
A big problem when a lot of these teams drop out is that viewership is going to decline and it'll be harder to sustain t2 tournaments. We're already beginning to see this when Chinese teams don't attend these bigger lans. It's the actual question we have to ask since it's simple for teams to drop out. We don't yet know what the side effects may be though...
dont you think the viewership is declining anyways? alot of people are already writing that they dont follow alot of tournaments because its too much (even with topteams participating) imho the problem is not the amount of tournaments but the amount of qualifiers and/or round robin games. sl, summit,d2l are mainly responsible for that (just take a look at the teamprofiles at gg.net). good teams deserve invites! edit: what sl could do is invite a different chinese team every season to see how they perform. you dont need vg or newbee at every lan final
I agree and EE mentions this qualifiers point. The problem remains that these tourneys are getting rid of qualifiers and so they're forced to withdraw and nobody wins
wat? who is forced to withdraw?! and you dont have to get rid of them completely. just have one or two qualifier spots. the na and sea region need a qualifier but you could invite less teams to play in it. or use a different tournament system instead of round robin
Teams in a lot of tourneys are force to withdraw since, it's difficult to play in all tournaments if they need to play qualifiers for all of them. Hell 4ASC had to do that with Dreamleague vs. Dota Pit League
ah and i thought my english sucked :D i said that qualifiers are the problem. so we kinda agree eh?
Yeah i strongly agree with you. I haven't actually watched an online western qual in a long time. I've watched a few eastern matches and only the Lan western matches
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
Oh I'm sorry. So four of the most successful teams are complaining that they're playing too many games and are reeeeeaallly uncomfortable about it? Holy shit guy, you are absolutely right!
Let's just give them all the wins, god forbid that they learn the werewithal to actually decline a tourney when their mortal bodies start to fail them!
Alright, I'll respond to this even though it's obvious flamebait
Take D2L for instance. It's previous 2013-14 iteration had the great Fnatic + Aui/Demon LAN run as well as a pretty good build up and good Chinese teams(VG and the last tourney of old LGD). It's current iteration lacks all 5 of these top teams (outside of contractually obligated EG) and you can see the huge viewership declines. On Reddit/LD/other dota forums, you rarely get any mention of the matches, even though Ayesee has improved and Tralf is a good co-caster. I think it's pretty indicative of what will happen to a lot of the t2 tourneys when these teams start sitting out
ok let me compose myself for a second then and be less hostile. My issue with this blog is not the oversaturation of tourneys. It's his claim that it's oversaturated.
There are more orgs this year, and the year before that. We can't stop that from happening, because the game is growing at a fast rate. People are going to start throwing money at dota because they've seen it work and profit. But instead of having foresight and common sense to decline invites with conflicting schedules with other tourneys, THEY DO THE OPPOSITE. And then act like the orgs pointed a gun to their heads to accept, so it's their fault they are burning out rofl do you see how absurd it is?
So say no. Whatever happens to the tourneys they declined, happens. Maybe they lose money because of the lesser viewership. Or maybe some tier 2 team gets the chance to shine and pave the way to more viewers. But stop acting like spoiled children that had no say to this outcome, when in fact you had every oppurtunity to prevent it.
They aren't talking about how the "tourneys forced them" if anything EE has mentioned how he wanted to play in as many officials as possible since he was trying to get better and build a reputation. Most of the new money as he mentions, is from people who want the bundled items, the actual discussion of tournament matches outside of big lan finals has decreased if anything.
EE is not complaining about too many tournaments, he's complaining about how the system works right now. Teams know they have to perform well to get to TI so they play in as many tournaments as possible to boost their odds. Tourneys now have huge qualifier schedules that make it so that they're playing officials all day.
Even though I dislike both teams, I can admit that people got really hype when old Alliance v Na'Vi happened since "the clasico" was a relatively rare occasion. That's what EE is trying to point to when he mentions how people used to view pro matches
? this is exactly wrong ee was saying that he can't care about official matches when he plays 1-3 per day. So pro's don't care about matches anymore. And he wishes he had less officials to play so that he cared about them more.
On December 17 2014 00:06 Krishan.bif wrote: Rofl l2sayNO, jacky.
OMG I said yes to too many tourneys to win the most amount of money, and I did cause all those second place finishes pay out didntuknowthat, but now what am I going to do because I'm burnt out of course it's all the orgs's fault someone HEEEELLLLPPPP MEEEEEEEEE
Jesus ixmike is right, you babies are spoiled.
Except, EG/VG/Secret/NB have all been doing this and have expressed the same view on tournaments they just haven't explicit said it.
Oh I'm sorry. So four of the most successful teams are complaining that they're playing too many games and are reeeeeaallly uncomfortable about it? Holy shit guy, you are absolutely right!
Let's just give them all the wins, god forbid that they learn the werewithal to actually decline a tourney when their mortal bodies start to fail them!
Alright, I'll respond to this even though it's obvious flamebait
Take D2L for instance. It's previous 2013-14 iteration had the great Fnatic + Aui/Demon LAN run as well as a pretty good build up and good Chinese teams(VG and the last tourney of old LGD). It's current iteration lacks all 5 of these top teams (outside of contractually obligated EG) and you can see the huge viewership declines. On Reddit/LD/other dota forums, you rarely get any mention of the matches, even though Ayesee has improved and Tralf is a good co-caster. I think it's pretty indicative of what will happen to a lot of the t2 tourneys when these teams start sitting out
ok let me compose myself for a second then and be less hostile. My issue with this blog is not the oversaturation of tourneys. It's his claim that it's oversaturated.
There are more orgs this year, and the year before that. We can't stop that from happening, because the game is growing at a fast rate. People are going to start throwing money at dota because they've seen it work and profit. But instead of having foresight and common sense to decline invites with conflicting schedules with other tourneys, THEY DO THE OPPOSITE. And then act like the orgs pointed a gun to their heads to accept, so it's their fault they are burning out rofl do you see how absurd it is?
So say no. Whatever happens to the tourneys they declined, happens. Maybe they lose money because of the lesser viewership. Or maybe some tier 2 team gets the chance to shine and pave the way to more viewers. But stop acting like spoiled children that had no say to this outcome, when in fact you had every oppurtunity to prevent it.
They aren't talking about how the "tourneys forced them" if anything EE has mentioned how he wanted to play in as many officials as possible since he was trying to get better and build a reputation. Most of the new money as he mentions, is from people who want the bundled items, the actual discussion of tournament matches outside of big lan finals has decreased if anything.
EE is not complaining about too many tournaments, he's complaining about how the system works right now. Teams know they have to perform well to get to TI so they play in as many tournaments as possible to boost their odds. Tourneys now have huge qualifier schedules that make it so that they're playing officials all day.
Even though I dislike both teams, I can admit that people got really hype when old Alliance v Na'Vi happened since "the clasico" was a relatively rare occasion. That's what EE is trying to point to when he mentions how people used to view pro matches
? this is exactly wrong ee was saying that he can't care about official matches when he plays 1-3 per day. So pro's don't care about matches anymore. And he wishes he had less officials to play so that he cared about them more.
"Ok so one might ask, wouldn’t things be better if the teams rally up and only play certain tournaments? Ya probably, but its not that easy.
The first major problem is that every tournament has a qualifier. And these qualifiers aren’t easy. Teams are worried that they might not qualify to tournaments, so they end up playing a bunch of qualifiers for more chances. Team Secret I think would be one of the only teams that could select a tournament and expect to qualify. EG doesn’t count because they are in NA and C9 has ping issues so we could easily lose.
The second problem is because of the International. By playing more tournaments and trying to place high in any of them teams are paving their way for a TI invite. So if some of the top teams don't play a tournament, the other teams will really want to play in order to secure a TI slot.
With these issues, even if there are 32943294 tournaments with 43439249 qualifier matches, teams aren’t really in a position to not play. " - EE
He's explaining why he has to play so many not that he thinks they are good or that he wants to play more
literally the paragraph before he says having this many officials sucks. Then in ur quote he explains why his team opts to sign up for so many tournaments when they obviously don't have to.
I don't really see the solution though. Everybody wants to watch Secret play C9, not many give a fuck about SNA vs. HR. Hell, half of you probably took a couple seconds to figure out who HR even are, and I doubt 1 in 10 could tell me their roster. And this is those interested enough in Dota to be reading comments on a pro blog, not the average fan.
Tournaments want lots of games featuring the big teams in order to compete with the other tournaments with lots of games featuring the big teams. I don't see how that's fixed.
On December 17 2014 01:05 Sn0_Man wrote: He's explaining why he has to play so many not that he thinks they or good or that he wants to play more
Yeah, my point was that originally he wanted to play in as many officials as possible (this was pre 2014) remember when he was on Kaipi/Speed couldn't even get into certain tourneys? Every single pro who has played with EE knows that he's a dotafiend and plays a shit ton
My 2nd point was more why they weren't dropping out and kept playing
It is actually really disgusting to hear how some organizers treat players. The human greed is really big factor here... I'll give my 2cents to the organisers: 1.If you want to host a BIG tournament, make it look like it. I know that the prize pool numbers are important for advertising. But if you cut some of the proffits, and some of the prize pool to make sure the players have a proper hotel rooms, decent flights, and most importantly VERY good computers to play and practice on. It will make them to want to come back next time, and it will avoid the very unpleasant wainting time on pause to "fix things". I mean i do this for living(i assemble and repair computers), and i can not understand how computers that are supposed to be new or at least tested for stability keep crashing on almost any big lan event... If you wan't to make money from you business you have to constantly invest at least half of your profit so it will keep growing. 2. Make the players feel special - stolen idea from valve for example: Send a limo to pick up your champions... it shouldn't cost more than a few hundred bucks and it will make everyone feel better, you can also make ad from it... 3. Make sure you know what DDOS is and how to protect yourself from it. 4. Most importantly do not get greedy. It is better to make one event several times with decent profit, and happy community than to make it once or twice and cut all the expenses(increasing the profits for the oranisers) but leading to "Don't worry guys the issues will be resolved any second now" to be the most used phrase by the casters. 5. Most of the dota2 players are not kids, this is not SC2, nor is the biggest part of the community. There is a huge difference between the expectations of a 16 year old person and a 25 year old one, and most of the players and the community are closer to 25 than to 16... There really are too many tournaments at the moment, and because we don't want to follow sc2, we all (players, organizers, fans) have to do something about it. Trust me when the leading goal is to host a really good tournament so everyone will enjoy it, than to win a lot of money, your tournament will last, people will like it, and the money will come with that.
On December 17 2014 01:05 FuzzyJAM wrote: I don't really see the solution though. Everybody wants to watch Secret play C9, not many give a fuck about SNA vs. HR. Hell, half of you probably took a couple seconds to figure out who HR even are, and I doubt 1 in 10 could tell me their roster. And this is those interested enough in Dota to be reading comments on a pro blog, not the average fan.
Tournaments want lots of games featuring the big teams in order to compete with the other tournaments with lots of games featuring the big teams. I don't see how that's fixed.
the problem with this statement is that it wont stay that way. that why we have these discussions and blogposts...even if your favorite team is playing in every tournament or qualifier its not possible to follow everything it fixes itself with time. tournaments will have to build their brand around the teams that are available.. do you watch csgo? take ESEA lan as an example. you have some european teams and more american teams. there is not other tournament that features that many american teams and luckily for the americans alot of upsets happened in the last few seasons edit: SL could focus alot more on the eastern european and russian teams and give away a few lan invites to chinese, european and/or american teams
EPT
