• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:41
CEST 23:41
KST 06:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.161Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202623Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion BSL23 Confirmations Starts on New BSL Portal ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10722 users

Feels like Starcraft once again

Blogs > aTnClouD
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 29 2014 18:14 GMT
#1
Hey guys, since I have a new project I wanted to share it with TL, which has been my home and probably the site I've visited the most in my life. It's been a long time from my last blog and since I am going to start a new journey and I'm super excited I felt like writing about it.

I basically blogged the project on LiquidPoker http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1117981/Road_to_100k,_a_brand_new_start.html
Long story short I was playing poker for the last year coached by an italian poker school. I was starting to make good money but not enough as I expected considering all the hard work I put into it, and then I found out my coaches were a fraud and slowed my progress on purpose for their own short term benefit (sometimes I forget to never trust italians at work)

After a bit of emotional trauma I decided to change discipline and now I'm playing cash poker for the last month (which is going really well) and I decided I will do anything it takes to make 100k€ from now on until the end of 2015. I also discovered that poker could be as interesting and fascinating as Starcraft and I have to say I didn't feel so excited from when I was becoming a top player in Brood War.

I often get messages from Starcraft people asking me where I am, and this is pretty much what I've been doing and my plans for the future. Right now I'm healthy, I also have a great girlfriend for a year that I love a lot and I'm really happy with my life. Thinking that only a few years back depression was taking away all the appreciation I should have had for my beautiful experience as Starcraft progamer is incredible, and I definitely I want to enjoy my life to the fullest right now.

I will keep you guys updated sporadically here, if you visit my blog on liquidpoker though I'll be posting my progress in poker there constantly. Of course if there is any question I will be happy to answer

***
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 29 2014 18:41 GMT
#2
Ah the memories. Learning poker was a great experience. GL
Administrator
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 29 2014 18:50 GMT
#3
You want to make 100k euro from poker in under 18 months?
Useless wet fish.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 19:22:57
October 29 2014 19:20 GMT
#4
On October 30 2014 03:41 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Ah the memories. Learning poker was a great experience. GL

Thanks Nazgul. By the way I never told you but I still remember studying every single move and build order you did in your PvZ replays back then when I started. Your PvZs on Blade Storm (was it the correct map name? I can't remember) were epic. Back then I had the same feeling I have now for poker

On October 30 2014 03:50 Capped wrote:
You want to make 100k euro from poker in under 18 months?

Yep. 100k euro consisting of net won + rakeback
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 29 2014 20:05 GMT
#5
Good luck. Hopefully you don't make "common" mistake that you go too fast play big money and lose some serious money.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
October 29 2014 20:09 GMT
#6
Best of luck, Cloud! Just take it one step at a time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
October 29 2014 20:09 GMT
#7
Just out of curiosity, can you explain how these coaches slowed you down on purpose? Did they give you bad advice so you would require their services for alonger period of time? I've never been coached in poker before (or anything really) and I have no idea how it works^^

Other than that, sounds awesome! Hope you kick ass at poker
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 21:49:08
October 29 2014 21:48 GMT
#8
On October 30 2014 05:09 KadaverBB wrote:
Just out of curiosity, can you explain how these coaches slowed you down on purpose? Did they give you bad advice so you would require their services for alonger period of time? I've never been coached in poker before (or anything really) and I have no idea how it works^^

Other than that, sounds awesome! Hope you kick ass at poker

Last time I spoke with him, he told me he believed that if I made too much money I wouldn't pay him, so I just think he was aiming to make me make only a moderate amount of money (btw when he told me this I was like are u fucking kidding me). He often gave me advice that would be the exact opposite of what he told other times, and his explaination often was "you are not good enough at poker to understand all the variables in place here" followed by some kind of backwards rationalization of what he said. Also he was playing the higher stakes of my format, so he did not want to make a good player out of somebody who could take his money later on.
I was just very dumb to let him fool me for a year, but I was told by other sources he was a great player, so I kept going thinking that eventually I would understand the game and start winning big.
He also hid from me every source of information and said SNG stuff was outdated. One of many examples would be there is a book by Colin Moshman that explains all the theory of SNG (Sit'n Go, the poker format I was playing at the time) and he told me to never read it because it was bad info. In fact it's the best book a beginner could read, but Colin Moshman has his own school of poker and he charges half of the guy running the italian school (LOL) so he didn't want me to find out this piece of information.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 29 2014 22:52 GMT
#9
I remember my Poker days with great fondness. I guess I got lucky that they coaches that I did have (via LP) were all fantastic.

Good luck! Makes me want to poke my head into LP again
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
October 30 2014 00:08 GMT
#10
I think the unavoidable swings in poker are not suited to someone with a depressive personality.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 30 2014 01:20 GMT
#11
On October 30 2014 09:08 kushm4sta wrote:
I think the unavoidable swings in poker are not suited to someone with a depressive personality.

Perhaps, but I assure you at the time I was depressed for legit reasons. When it comes to downswings you just take them like a man and never complain.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
October 30 2014 01:33 GMT
#12
Carlo! So happy to read this dude. Wish you all the success in poker and life.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 30 2014 02:33 GMT
#13
wow, was he teaching you one on one, or was it more of a small class. Super dickish thing to do did u tell other people learning under him?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 30 2014 03:26 GMT
#14
best of luck, you can add me on skype if you want, I don't mind giving advices on hand histories you'd be puzzled about
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 05:25:33
October 30 2014 05:25 GMT
#15
not a single cookie monster #dissapointed

but congratz on finding a new passion, I just found some of my own and life is a lot more exciting when your studying 8 hours a day on something you really care about!
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 30 2014 06:34 GMT
#16
100K?! now that's a lot of money :D I wish you the best of luck!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
October 30 2014 06:38 GMT
#17
You want 100k within 18 months, how much have you won so far? Stakes? ROI? How realistic is this?
3 Hatch Before Cool
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
October 30 2014 07:23 GMT
#18
I remember playing lots of micro tourney with you last year. glad to see you are doing well
$O$ | soO
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 30 2014 09:01 GMT
#19
glad to hear you are doing well.
for what it's worth, my favorite sc2 viewing and learning was watching you coach take.
gl hf!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 30 2014 09:23 GMT
#20
On October 30 2014 04:20 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 03:41 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Ah the memories. Learning poker was a great experience. GL

Thanks Nazgul. By the way I never told you but I still remember studying every single move and build order you did in your PvZ replays back then when I started. Your PvZs on Blade Storm (was it the correct map name? I can't remember) were epic. Back then I had the same feeling I have now for poker

Thanks :D
Administrator
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 440
ProTech153
ViBE3
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 147
Dewaltoss 115
Counter-Strike
fl0m1517
Super Smash Bros
PPMD21
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4286
Other Games
FrodaN629
shahzam452
Liquid`Hasu273
ToD218
PiGStarcraft190
C9.Mang0152
UpATreeSC97
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 23
• ChaeLyn 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3338
• masondota21361
Other Games
• imaqtpie1279
• Shiphtur724
• WagamamaTV237
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 49m
Kung Fu Cup
13h 19m
The PondCast
1d 12h
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.