Korea dominates the starcraft scene. China has dota 2 as its pet. Europe rules counter-strike. Japan has street fighter
What causes this huge skill difference in games? Is it the player base? Maybe history?
As far as I know japan doesn't allow tournament payment, so all that was left for them is an arcade game. China likes to pirate things, so pirating warcraft 3 a lot led to them being good at Dota. Korea had internet first so they had time to play with the biggest RTS at the time first(?!)
I don't follow the LoL scene, but I'm guessing it's korean dominance again?
Do you think some countries get better at the game because of the number of hours played and ammount of players, or do they happen to practice more for whatever reason?
I think it's because of racial superiority and I would like to cite Francis Galton as a credible source and not as an author who's work is not supported in the slightest by modern science. Sieg Heil.
But no, as others have said, it's a cultural and a social thing. If a certain country has the best players of a certain game, more people from that country will play, and they'll generally have more good opponents to play with or learn from.
Korea is great at everything, but some things that come to mind are Go and musicians. China, I think maybe the most exposed to mmorpgs with huge grind, so they are very familiar with controlling a hero. Europe was the major theater in both World Wars. Perhaps the history gives some fire to its players in CS. Japan - Samurai! So fighting games come naturally to them?
In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote: In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
USA got Bronze in the 2004 Olympics in Basketball. Other years they failed to win:
1972 (Silver) 1980 (Not in top 4) 1988 (Bronze)
Toronto Blue Jays (Canada) won the World Series in 1992 and 1993.
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote: In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
USA got Bronze in the 2004 Olympics in Basketball. Other years they failed to win:
1972 (Silver) 1980 (Not in top 4) 1988 (Bronze)
Toronto Blue Jays (Canada) won the World Series in 1992 and 1993.
So......
im willing to bet 95% of the players on the blue jays were american during both of those championships
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote: In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote: In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
OP, I think it's down to culture and acceptance of said game. Starcraft is really the best example that showcases cultural differences and how it's more accepted to go pro (even if not much more) than some other cultures.
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote: In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
USA got Bronze in the 2004 Olympics in Basketball. Other years they failed to win:
1972 (Silver) 1980 (Not in top 4) 1988 (Bronze)
Toronto Blue Jays (Canada) won the World Series in 1992 and 1993.
So......
im willing to bet 95% of the players on the blue jays were american during both of those championships
(i know its trolling but still)
pretty sure there was more than 1.3 latino on those teams
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote: In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.
USA got Bronze in the 2004 Olympics in Basketball. Other years they failed to win:
1972 (Silver) 1980 (Not in top 4) 1988 (Bronze)
Toronto Blue Jays (Canada) won the World Series in 1992 and 1993.
So......
im willing to bet 95% of the players on the blue jays were american during both of those championships
(i know its trolling but still)
pretty sure there was more than 1.3 latino on those teams
On September 08 2014 23:00 Sakray wrote: Different mentality, mostly.
Yeah, the reason people win games is because they have good attitudes.
does this really answer the question though? then the question just becomes "why do koreans have better attitudes in starcraft" which goes right back to cultural differences like people said. in fact id argue it's not so much better attitudes as just having more opportunity to commit. if a NA player really wants to succeed and win but doesn't commit because he wants to go to school and have a life and a career id hardly call that a bad attitude
China is good at Dota because it was "free" and they have a shitload of people. Korea was good at SC2 because they had superior internet which allowed them to practice with each other easier (NA would have had to LAN). Japan is good at Street Fighter because arcades never really fell out of popularity unlike NA.
These are generalisations and there are more minutiae involved but it's the general idea.
On September 09 2014 14:34 miicah wrote: Korea was good at SC2 because they had superior internet which allowed them to practice with each other easier (NA would have had to LAN).
Aside from the facts/hypothesis already mentioned about each country's reasons for picking up the game , culture, etc.
There is simply just random chaos.
Roll a dice, only 1 can be the winner. Or in this case the best. You could argue that you should/could see more well rounded game skill in certain games around the world, and I'm sure there is on some obscure games with little to no following. Actually, Poker and Magic Cards come to mind as pretty even around the world.
However, what I think happens is just chance. Some kid(s) pick up the game and get good at it, other people around them see that, they want to be like them, and so on an so forth. Then a community builds around it, then tournaments, then you get the idea.
Point is, wherever the first most skilled players appear, the quicker they bounce off of each other refining their play miles above the others, and since they are somewhat isolated in their training, it takes a while for people to catch up, and in the case of BW the culture never caught up at all in the 'mainstream'.
And you could probably say the same about any of these games.
I imagine there are tons of games that USA/CAN Americas are better at but no one really cares about them at the hardcore competitive levels. One that comes to mind is Super Smash Bros, if you watch that episodic docu, they even go to Japan and own the fuck out of them. The game came from japan and they were better at a point, but the scene and competition and rivalries across USA dominated.
tl;dr random talent, random rivalries/communities, random tournaments, random compeition, randomness is the reason why some countries seem better, but in reality it could have just as well been another country to take the top in X game in a parallel universe.
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