EPTI'm rooting against Team Empire: They are scammers
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Deleted User 97295
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Sliver
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Fwizzz
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 06 2014 09:49 Sliver wrote: lol $75 Worst reasoning ever. It doesn't matter how much money it was, scamming is scamming. On July 06 2014 01:22 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: wow so if I understand, Empire let that guy unleash a small pr shitstorm for 75 bucks. thats fucking pro. On July 06 2014 02:13 Chexx wrote: Money owed is Money owed. There shouldn't be a discussion about the amount.. for some people even 75$ is a lot of money. | ||
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Deleted User 97295
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 05 2014 21:14 Empire.StrangeR wrote: Greetings to all of you, dear community. My name is Alexander, more known as StrangeR. On behalf of the Team Empire, I want to make an official statement regarding the situation with the delay in payment to streamer aido. As I mentioned in my tweet, we owe money and we have never denied this fact. Today I inspected what amount is involved. So, for the last six months we owe him $ 75 revenue from the advertising on twitch.tv. That is small amount which I’m personally will pay to him today. Since this payment was small, it was included in the payment of a centralized planned streamer project, and the transaction will be done in the beginning of August, after The International 4, and aido was informed about that fact. He reacted with disbelief to our promises and appealed to the community - we understand this move. I apologize for the misunderstanding and suppose that this topic can be closed. Official statement - http://www.team-empire.org/materials/blogs/1949/?lang=en | ||
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Deleted User 97295
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SpiZe
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 Go Empire, changing my team flair ATM. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 06 2014 10:02 Laertes wrote: I think we should all boo team empire when they do the international like seriously, I am going to be posting everywhere that these guys are the scum of the earth. The more people know the better. Don't go overboard. One or a couple people don't represent the mentality of an entire organization. I agree it's not right, but the players are not involved with this, and this issue should be approached in a civil way. | ||
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Deleted User 97295
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 06 2014 10:06 Laertes wrote: Are you seriously dull? I don't understand why you are rooting for a team that cheats their employees out of money? I better not warned for saying I honestly hope you get cancer asshole. Great job being such a dick. You wish anyone cancer on TeamLiquid, LiquidDota, or LiquidHearth, you get banned. Maybe you should read: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/454446-liquiddota-site-rules | ||
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saiyogo
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Spicy_Curry
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Deleted User 97295
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HeyMrJones
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Plansix
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Spicy_Curry
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On July 06 2014 10:15 Laertes wrote: Well that's just dumb, I like to take other people's vendettas and make them my own however. If we lose the capacity for outrage we lose the ability to make things right. If we don't put pressure on the organization things will not change. I hope they lose, maybe it'll show stranger he can't bully people like he's currently doing. Did these players do anything wrong? Vanskor Mag ALWAYSWANNAFLY Resolution Silent You really need to focus your hatred instead of spraying semen everywhere. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 06 2014 10:17 Spicy_Curry wrote: Did these players do anything wrong? Vanskor Mag ALWAYSWANNAFLY Resolution Silent You really need to focus your hatred instead of spraying semen everywhere. No need to make offensive remarks like your last one. The players might've not done anything wrong, but you have to ask yourself, how can you put pressure on a team so they stop this criminal behavior. Obviously you can't just go sue them for $75... And if nobody cares about things like this, nothing will change. So I see where Laertes is coming from too. | ||
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Plansix
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On July 06 2014 10:21 FiWiFaKi wrote: No need to make offensive remarks like your last one. The players might've not done anything wrong, but you have to ask yourself, how can you put pressure on a team so they stop this criminal behavior. Obviously you can't just go sue them for $75... And if nobody cares about things like this, nothing will change. So I see where Laertes is coming from too. Directing your anger at people who didn't do anything and had zero ability to stop the bad thing from happening isn't really a solution either. The players did nothing. Do we really blame employees when their boss does something wrong? | ||
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On July 06 2014 10:26 Plansix wrote: Directing your anger at people who didn't do anything and had zero ability to stop the bad thing from happening isn't really a solution either. The players did nothing. Do we really blame employees when their boss does something wrong? I agree it's not the correct solution. But rather than offend someone else's solution, why not propose what you'd do? It's easy to critique without bringing any of your ideas into play. | ||
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On July 06 2014 10:28 Plansix wrote: Dude, you are in a game? Are you feeding that badly? Starcraft APM. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
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On July 06 2014 10:29 Laertes wrote: Plansix has a point, but I'm still not quite sure what we should do about this problem. I get really mad when shit like this happens so maybe I overreacted a little bit. In case you're wondering, StrangeR refused to pay the guy he scammed now because he went to the community. I don't know about you but that's a little disgusting, is there an alternate solution or do we just have to let this poor guy take it in the ass? If you are that disgusted pay the guy yourself. Thats how it works in the real world. Shit happens and Im not going to lose sleep over it. This is esports, its still very much like the wild wild west. You know DK still havent been payed for winning WPC from last year? | ||
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Gevna
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 06 2014 10:44 Spicy_Curry wrote: If you are that disgusted pay the guy yourself. Thats how it works in the real world. Shit happens and Im not going to lose sleep over it. This is esports, its still very much like the wild wild west. You know DK still havent been payed for winning WPC from last year? So your solution is that we should never do anything? And if organizations want to launder money, not pay players, scam, etc... We should just let these organizations be successful in the scene because hell, it supports esports? | ||
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Spicy_Curry
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On July 06 2014 10:47 FiWiFaKi wrote: So your solution is that we should never do anything? And if organizations want to launder money, not pay players, scam, etc... We should just let these organizations be successful in the scene because hell, it supports esports? Pretty much, this shit is what killed sc2. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 06 2014 10:55 Spicy_Curry wrote: Pretty much, this shit is what killed sc2. Don't even try and start that. And there was not one single thing that "killed" SC2. | ||
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Plansix
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On July 06 2014 10:57 FiWiFaKi wrote: Don't even try and start that. And there was not one single thing that "killed" SC2. The drama train did not help it at all. This is grown up land, people can stick up for themselves and we can support them in doing so. But going crazy full drama on the team because one kid is out $75 is not a good response. Fuck, I miss State of the Game. | ||
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DucK-
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Heck I don't think anyone in the scene supports organisations, and not players. The old mym were very big and popular. But no one cares that much relatively about the danish stack just because they are wearing that brand. If the entire squad of dk got replaced by say speedgaming.cn, would you still support this new dk squad? Or would you support the former dk team that maybe called themselves team imba or something. While its good to highlight bad stuff that happened in the organisation, this has absolutely nothing to do with the players or ti4. No need to condemn or hope for shitty performances from the players. | ||
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