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Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
May 23 2014 02:18 GMT
#1
If you've been playing dota for a long time this might jog your memory and let you reminisce of yesteryear.

http://eurobattle.net/threads/96299-The-worst-imbalances-in-dota-history

I still remember owning with sa and thinking I was the greatest player ever.

Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 23 2014 02:23 GMT
#2
lol wtf

Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here

clearly i've been doing something dodgy
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 23 2014 02:44 GMT
#3
Hailing from China, Chen commands at his side the full wrath of the quantity.


lol.

I miss laneblocking with Chen.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 23 2014 03:50 GMT
#4
I missed out on so much early allstars since my mom wouldn't buy me tft (roc 3.6 for life). I started right around when Icefrog took over.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 23 2014 06:23 GMT
#5
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe
Sa death ward was fun
silencer healing wave and infernal ultimate was pretttyy good
also the old invoker fromt he secret tavern, holy moly
This is our town, scrub
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 23 2014 07:30 GMT
#6
I missed a lot of this since I only played Dota really infrequently until near Dota 2 so these are hilarious for me to read.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 23 2014 08:59 GMT
#7
Bugged fanadin and omni knight with the infinitely long scene duration were the most imbalanced I played against
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 23 2014 10:40 GMT
#8
On May 23 2014 15:23 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe

Oh god, I remember.

This is the sickest fucking thing about naix:

He used to be an agi based hero. With 4.0 agi gain.

His ult was a 20 second BKB that gave damage and health. One of his passives was a ridiculous attack & movespeed slow that did damage over time on hit. He also had a ridiculous lifestealing passive that stacked with other attack modifiers. And his last passive give him additional attack and movespeed. 100% Absurd.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 23 2014 11:25 GMT
#9
On May 23 2014 19:40 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 15:23 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe

Oh god, I remember.

This is the sickest fucking thing about naix:

He used to be an agi based hero. With 4.0 agi gain.

His ult was a 20 second BKB that gave damage and health. One of his passives was a ridiculous attack & movespeed slow that did damage over time on hit. He also had a ridiculous lifestealing passive that stacked with other attack modifiers. And his last passive give him additional attack and movespeed. 100% Absurd.

exactly that, he had like 25 % life gain that stacked 1+1 with items plus 20 second bkb ulti plus passive slowing poison
glad im not the only one to remember that shit haha
you could go 0:8 but as soon as you were lvl 16 it was gg
This is our town, scrub
Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
May 23 2014 13:56 GMT
#10
could someone post an alternate link? my IP is banned for unknown reasons
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
May 23 2014 16:29 GMT
#11
Very cool link. Dat Invoker was insane!
Joni_
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany355 Posts
May 23 2014 19:20 GMT
#12
I started really actively playing dota with 5.84b, so I missed a lot of this, but at least the old SA and Silencer were hilarious.
Am really surprised N'aix didnt make the list tho. Was just ridiculous.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 23:30:33
May 23 2014 22:52 GMT
#13
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517562

It has been around for a while. Old Naix is a few tiers below old OP heroes. And no, he wasn't an Agi hero, he was still a Strenght hero, he just had a ridiculous agi gain and shit strenght. He was complete shit early game and nothing compared to Astral Trekker, Void Demon or old Riki. I think even old Spectre could have been better, old Dispersion and Vengeance aura was ridiculous.

Either way Naix isn't there because he is too recent. They are supposed to be really obscure heroes.
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
May 23 2014 23:40 GMT
#14
On May 23 2014 20:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 19:40 Jugan wrote:
On May 23 2014 15:23 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe

Oh god, I remember.

This is the sickest fucking thing about naix:

He used to be an agi based hero. With 4.0 agi gain.

His ult was a 20 second BKB that gave damage and health. One of his passives was a ridiculous attack & movespeed slow that did damage over time on hit. He also had a ridiculous lifestealing passive that stacked with other attack modifiers. And his last passive give him additional attack and movespeed. 100% Absurd.

exactly that, he had like 25 % life gain that stacked 1+1 with items plus 20 second bkb ulti plus passive slowing poison
glad im not the only one to remember that shit haha
you could go 0:8 but as soon as you were lvl 16 it was gg


Naix was ridiculous. It was actually a 40% lifesteal self aura. You just farmed in the forest until you got heart. Then you were unstoppable.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 23:51:18
May 23 2014 23:50 GMT
#15
On May 24 2014 08:40 Fumanchu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 20:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On May 23 2014 19:40 Jugan wrote:
On May 23 2014 15:23 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe

Oh god, I remember.

This is the sickest fucking thing about naix:

He used to be an agi based hero. With 4.0 agi gain.

His ult was a 20 second BKB that gave damage and health. One of his passives was a ridiculous attack & movespeed slow that did damage over time on hit. He also had a ridiculous lifestealing passive that stacked with other attack modifiers. And his last passive give him additional attack and movespeed. 100% Absurd.

exactly that, he had like 25 % life gain that stacked 1+1 with items plus 20 second bkb ulti plus passive slowing poison
glad im not the only one to remember that shit haha
you could go 0:8 but as soon as you were lvl 16 it was gg


Naix was ridiculous. It was actually a 40% lifesteal self aura. You just farmed in the forest until you got heart. Then you were unstoppable.

Here's Naix old skillset:
[image loading]
He was good because in pubs you could just disapper for 15 mins and come back with items. But he was virtually a creep before it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 24 2014 07:06 GMT
#16
Also note the 15/26/15 base stats on a Strength hero.
Moderator
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
May 24 2014 11:21 GMT
#17
I never understood how dota became so angel arena'y in the early tft days. Like when I finally transitioned to all stars it was already not ridiculous and when I was playing roc dota I don't remember it being ridiculous either.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 24 2014 11:44 GMT
#18
On May 23 2014 20:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 19:40 Jugan wrote:
On May 23 2014 15:23 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe

Oh god, I remember.

This is the sickest fucking thing about naix:

He used to be an agi based hero. With 4.0 agi gain.

His ult was a 20 second BKB that gave damage and health. One of his passives was a ridiculous attack & movespeed slow that did damage over time on hit. He also had a ridiculous lifestealing passive that stacked with other attack modifiers. And his last passive give him additional attack and movespeed. 100% Absurd.

exactly that, he had like 25 % life gain that stacked 1+1 with items plus 20 second bkb ulti plus passive slowing poison
glad im not the only one to remember that shit haha
you could go 0:8 but as soon as you were lvl 16 it was gg

Wasn't that bad honestly

In 584c dusa and morph were way more imba
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 25 2014 11:41 GMT
#19
On May 24 2014 08:50 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 08:40 Fumanchu wrote:
On May 23 2014 20:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
On May 23 2014 19:40 Jugan wrote:
On May 23 2014 15:23 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
old lifestealer was the most broken thing i believe

Oh god, I remember.

This is the sickest fucking thing about naix:

He used to be an agi based hero. With 4.0 agi gain.

His ult was a 20 second BKB that gave damage and health. One of his passives was a ridiculous attack & movespeed slow that did damage over time on hit. He also had a ridiculous lifestealing passive that stacked with other attack modifiers. And his last passive give him additional attack and movespeed. 100% Absurd.

exactly that, he had like 25 % life gain that stacked 1+1 with items plus 20 second bkb ulti plus passive slowing poison
glad im not the only one to remember that shit haha
you could go 0:8 but as soon as you were lvl 16 it was gg


Naix was ridiculous. It was actually a 40% lifesteal self aura. You just farmed in the forest until you got heart. Then you were unstoppable.

Here's Naix old skillset:
[image loading]
He was good because in pubs you could just disapper for 15 mins and come back with items. But he was virtually a creep before it.


Old Naix and old Razer were the fucking best. Razer was my first hero
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 25 2014 11:57 GMT
#20
On May 24 2014 20:21 kirsed wrote:
I never understood how dota became so angel arena'y in the early tft days. Like when I finally transitioned to all stars it was already not ridiculous and when I was playing roc dota I don't remember it being ridiculous either.

Angel Arena was dope though. I wish I could play this kind of stuff nowadays ...
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