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climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
May 12 2014 19:40 GMT
#1
I've always aspired to be good enough at something to perform at either a professional or at least an Am-Pro level.

A Little History

I played Call of Duty 1.3 competitively since its inception. I then followed the franchise to CoD2 and then CoD4(Modern Warfare). I met a group of friends online and have been hanging out with them online ever since. Once that game died, we jumped into LoL but their aspirations of playing competitively died, while mine grew. I decided to play LoL casually and the play SC competitively.

In brood war, I played ICCUP and got to a C+. I began to doubt my skills, practiced less and slowly become unmotivated. I think not being with a clan really hindered me from being motivated. In SC2, I decided I wanted to try to get am-pro level and compete. Got to platinum in season 2? And decided to enter my first LAN tourney. The way it was broken down was bronze - plat had their own tourney. Diamond+ was in their own tourney. I got to semis and lost in a PvP. His clan was backing him up while I was there by myself.

Common Obstacles

Now in dota2, I still play with the online friends I made back in CoD4. They still don't want to compete, which I understand. I recently convinced my, for lack of a better term, RL friends to play more dota2 and its been great to see them learn and progress. They joke about playing in local tourneys but I known they aren't serious.

So I am trying to climb solo queue MMR (Currently 3k), find a team, and begin scrimming and learning. First step is the hardest. Climbing solo queue is a rough time for a support. I feel that solo queue has a bias towards carry players; however, I do know that solo queue is simply that, solo queue. There isn’t full teamwork like a real team. Coordination can either be a flash in a pan or nonexistent. So first things first, get myself up into a higher MMR.

Finding time to play and practice can be difficult. School is always priority number one and I would not allow this to hinder my chances of finishing. Hanging out the my girlfriend and family are also moments that I don’t want to miss. So time management is another thing I need to tackle if I want to get better.

Goals

So first things first! Set up a schedule where I can have enough time to study, practice, and spend time with everyone. After that, maybe find a group that wants to play competitively.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#2
I wouldn't hold the assumption that soloque is carry biased. playing a support or offlane that can get shit done in the first 15 minutes can win lanes for mid and carry and give you momentum for the rest of the game. It's much harder to win as a carry without good support/offlane rotations than it is as a support/offlane that ensures your carry/mid can't tank your game.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 13 2014 00:37 GMT
#3
my tip:
get to 5k mmr
pick up friends along the way
form a team with them
then start scrimming, before its really pointless
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 13 2014 07:43 GMT
#4
How does solo queue have a bias toward carry players?
Do carry players win without supports in all carry games or something?

A good support can easily win the game for his team, just gotta know when to switch focus. A lot of support players just keep trying to babysit/support a shitty carry or just keep pulling creeps instead of rotating to help their off-lane or mid-lane when giving those two lanes might help you far more.
Like if your carry player is trash, don't keep wasting time trying to help him, go help your mid-player get ahead.

Good luck!
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 12:33:35
May 13 2014 12:32 GMT
#5
On May 13 2014 09:37 teddyoojo wrote:
my tip:
get to 5k mmr
pick up friends along the way
form a team with them
then start scrimming, before its really pointless

only point in scrimming before then is for fun if you have 10 friends

also there is no point in only playing 1 role in pubs at 3k, i used to think it would make me a better player but it simply doesn't, it's worse
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robaq
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland186 Posts
May 13 2014 12:51 GMT
#6
Yeah, stop playing only support, you won't get better by doing that. If you're really into climbing MMR and improving, I suggest sticking to 1-2 "OP" heroes for each role and grinding them until you get bored.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11940 Posts
May 13 2014 16:17 GMT
#7
Support is harder to make a big impact on than mid/off lane. Going 5-0-3 first ten minutes gives you something like 70% win chance on low level games. You fall off so fast on most of them, especially if you let other people farm lanes when you were there first. It depends so much on your allies.

I am not sure you improve faster in ranked than outside of it.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 20:07:00
May 13 2014 20:04 GMT
#8
On May 13 2014 21:32 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:37 teddyoojo wrote:
my tip:
get to 5k mmr
pick up friends along the way
form a team with them
then start scrimming, before its really pointless

only point in scrimming before then is for fun if you have 10 friends

also there is no point in only playing 1 role in pubs at 3k, i used to think it would make me a better player but it simply doesn't, it's worse


there was this guy from flipside that taught a bunch of random people how to play dota and taught them how to play fixed roles in a team setting. They ended up winning most of their games with brand new players getting them to high bracket in less than 50 games.
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