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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 10:33:26
May 24 2014 10:26 GMT
#1
  1. The Call
  2. The Plan

Aim: 200 BarCraft for LOTV Launch

The Plan? Nothing in place, and there won't be if everyone sits on their hands. I'm just some guy in front of a keyboard. What can I possibly do alone? This isn't Fight Club. There'll be no eSports Typer Durden jetsetting the world and setting up local BarCrafts near you for you (unless, of course, FXOBoss is still around and willing).

I can't do this alone, and neither could you, nor Blizzard. The Project is bigger than any one person or organization. For it to work, to have a chance to succeed, everyone needs to be involved. Everyone who's left, and even those whom have already left us.

My job is to grab the attention of a few good men. It'll up to them to get everyone else on board.

Who among you will be the vanguard of democracy, freedom, and discovery? Today, we bequeath America's future into your able hands.
- Helinger,A Beautiful Mind


The List

Blizzard

Someone with pull with Blizzard has to convince them that the Community wants to help them launch LOTV at every major city. Blizzard has to be on board with the Project, and early. If we wait until LOTV gets an actual launch date. It'll already be too late. By then, Blizzard's launch strategy would already be set in stone. Blizzard needs to make room in their marketing plan for us.

Blizzard has to be convinced that it is a good idea. There's a lot in it for Blizzard: hundreds of launch events for LOTV, celebrating the franchise, all around the globe. It can all be theirs for practically nothing. That is meaningful, significant. It has tremendous upside for very little cost.

Blizzard's job, aside from giving the Project a certain legitimacy, is simply help push it forward and send out kits. Blizzard can only be support, and cannot demand for command and control. Herding cats has never been within Blizzard's expertise, and there'll be hundreds of organizers involved (if all goes according to plan) vying for their attention. It won't be pretty.


Industry

Network and get people involved. The LOTV launch will be the end of an era, and who knows what the future holds? An existential threat is the best way to foster solidarity, push for collective action. Channel our collective pent-up frustration into action by pointing to a tangible goal. What's the worse that can happen?

Enlist everyone: casters and players, tournament and event organizers, owners, forum regulars, the retired, the forgotten, the naysayers, the trolls. Someone (and many ones) has to (1) convince them this is a thing (2) it has potential (3) it is possible (4) get involved (5) attend. That person won't be me.

Any publicity is good publicity. Wonder out loud if the Project can be possible. Get people talking. Nothing happens if no one knows about it.


Community

Every men, women, and child has to commit themselves to attend. Just as importantly, it'll be up to the individuals to reach beyond TL and r/StarCraft. Everyone knows someone who hasn't been around for a while. Call them, beg them to come, bait them with promise of food and drinks and a good time. The entire enterprise would be largely pointless, if the only we see the same 20 people circlejerking at LOTV launch.

It'll be up to the Community - ie "you" - to make sure there'll be a BarCraft for LOTV launch nearby. Setting up a BarCraft aint easy, but it isn't hard either. A BarCraft has only 4 ingredients: food and drink, like-minded company, and a good game on screen. That's it. Everything else is mere window dressing. There'll be help along the way too.


tl;dr; I aint going to do shit. If "200 BarCrafts for LOTV launch" has potential, if it'll happen, it needs a "few good men" to kick start the whole enterprise.


***
Thank God and gunrun.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 24 2014 13:02 GMT
#2
Boss is chillin' around playing Rugby lol, super badass mother fucker

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
May 24 2014 13:23 GMT
#3
Leipzig, Germany is in. We regularily do barcrafts anyways.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 24 2014 13:37 GMT
#4
Managing technical difficulties at barcrafts makes me want to kill myself. Didn't expect to have so many problems when I organized the one I did. Other than that, the rest was really easy.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
DnCL
Profile Joined May 2013
86 Posts
May 24 2014 15:45 GMT
#5
I like the attitude.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 19:53:49
May 24 2014 19:53 GMT
#6
I call upon the powers of Barcraft Cologne and Aachen to join in on that conquest!

also, I volunteer as a helper
ktsalz
Profile Joined March 2012
United States17 Posts
May 24 2014 21:58 GMT
#7
BarCraft LA is most definitely in!
@ktsalz
Kenobii
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada35 Posts
May 24 2014 23:15 GMT
#8
I'd like to help out.
"Your focus, needs more focus..."
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 25 2014 09:46 GMT
#9
If anything will be organized in the netherlands I can help with.

-casting
-organizing
-catering
-explaining stuff
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
May 25 2014 14:36 GMT
#10
Your post is like the inception music ending with a fart.

Not very motivational.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 15:18:06
May 25 2014 15:17 GMT
#11
On May 25 2014 23:36 Ethenielle wrote:
Your post is like the inception music ending with a fart.

Not very motivational.


We need totems to wake up. May yours be a particular fart.
Thank God and gunrun.
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada646 Posts
May 26 2014 01:41 GMT
#12
I know that in Edmonton we had barcrafts for a few years during MLG and I could reach out to the organizer to see if he is still got the connections. We managed 50-100 a couple times.

Smart idea, I'll point my friend in the esports dept this direction.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 26 2014 12:00 GMT
#13
Sounds like "somebody should wash the dishes" mentality to me
This is our town, scrub
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 26 2014 22:56 GMT
#14
Blizz plz pay this guy.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 23:08:52
May 26 2014 23:05 GMT
#15
On May 26 2014 21:00 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Sounds like "somebody should wash the dishes" mentality to me


ESPORTS was a house of cards. It'll remain so frail as long as it depends on personal heroics for critical functions. Stop me if you heard this story before: a player/team/event/tournament/site/community seems to be doing well, then collapses out of the blue, because the primary actor quit/burned out/disappears/runs out of money/throw in the towel/got sick/has a mental breakdown. Been there, done that.

The more I do, the more fragile the Project becomes. The best I can do is put the idea out there, and let the court of public opinion decides on its fate. If the idea has merit, then maybe it'll find a few good men to get the ball rolling. If it couldn't, then it probably wasn't that good of an idea anyways.

Thank God and gunrun.
ProxyKite
Profile Joined July 2011
United States40 Posts
May 27 2014 04:58 GMT
#16
On May 27 2014 08:05 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 21:00 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Sounds like "somebody should wash the dishes" mentality to me


ESPORTS was a house of cards. It'll remain so frail as long as it depends on personal heroics for critical functions. Stop me if you heard this story before: a player/team/event/tournament/site/community seems to be doing well, then collapses out of the blue, because the primary actor quit/burned out/disappears/runs out of money/throw in the towel/got sick/has a mental breakdown. Been there, done that.

The more I do, the more fragile the Project becomes. The best I can do is put the idea out there, and let the court of public opinion decides on its fate. If the idea has merit, then maybe it'll find a few good men to get the ball rolling. If it couldn't, then it probably wasn't that good of an idea anyways.



A good idea is relative. A great idea inspires action. But action needs to happen at both ends between BarCraft and Blizzard. If Blizzard servers were like how they were at Diablo 3 launch, then this project is a failure. I don't want to naysay and such and so to those who are going take up the reins, best of luck.
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