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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 17:36:32
April 09 2014 17:35 GMT
#21
On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane.

...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves.

@Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 17:41:22
April 09 2014 17:40 GMT
#22
On April 10 2014 02:35 Scarecrow wrote:
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On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane.

...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves.

@Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day
It's actually the most effective way to treat severe depression, and would be a lot more common if it werent for the memory loss and the bad PR. Yeah, changing medication might work to some degree, or titrating the existing dose, but severe, long melancholic depressions are a bitch to get rid of, even with medication. Obviously I dont know exactly how bad he is at the moment, but its entirely ordinary advice to give.
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
April 09 2014 19:54 GMT
#23
On April 10 2014 02:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 02:35 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane.

...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves.

@Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day
It's actually the most effective way to treat severe depression, and would be a lot more common if it werent for the memory loss and the bad PR. Yeah, changing medication might work to some degree, or titrating the existing dose, but severe, long melancholic depressions are a bitch to get rid of, even with medication. Obviously I dont know exactly how bad he is at the moment, but its entirely ordinary advice to give.



It's not like X treatment will cure it. You can't throw money and medicine to fix something like that.
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
April 09 2014 20:12 GMT
#24
One of the best things a depressed person can do is focus on eating a healthy diet and exercising. It's not some cure-all, but it does help significantly.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 09 2014 20:50 GMT
#25
On April 10 2014 02:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 02:35 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane.

...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves.

@Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day
It's actually the most effective way to treat severe depression, and would be a lot more common if it werent for the memory loss and the bad PR. Yeah, changing medication might work to some degree, or titrating the existing dose, but severe, long melancholic depressions are a bitch to get rid of, even with medication. Obviously I dont know exactly how bad he is at the moment, but its entirely ordinary advice to give.


ECT is hardcore but effective yes.
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
April 09 2014 21:45 GMT
#26
hi doggie ilu
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 09 2014 23:16 GMT
#27
i miss the boes streamu
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
April 09 2014 23:29 GMT
#28
On April 10 2014 00:39 Ctone23 wrote:
I went through a long period of depression. You're right, there is really no way for other people to understand. Most people are way too obsessed with themselves to care, and a lot of people who become depressed, got that way because they too cared about themselves way too much, how they look, etc.

I've gotten into a depression because I didn't care enough about myself... funny how life works. Or perhaps it's the same thing...

---

I'm supporting someone with rather severe borderline (in my opinion). Lots of downs and sometimes an up. Most of the time she hides her constant suicidal feeling and I become unaware of it. It helps me function better with a little less burden on my mind. Today we had a talk (together with an external person) where the suicidal feelings were brought up and it was nice just to have that communicated. To regain the mutual understanding of mutual understanding of the situation (yes I wrote that double on purpose).

I don't think it'd make any sense to write generic advice here. Useful advice will always need to be made in context and in concrete terms. But I wish you all luck.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 09 2014 23:50 GMT
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 10 2014 00:00 GMT
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 10 2014 00:04 GMT
#31
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 10 2014 01:28 GMT
#32
Thanks for the blog. I've had the good fortune of never going through depression but I've dealt with people who have had it in the past and also through a call center that I used to work at, it's a really rough condition to have. I think what makes it worse is that it's still not as accepted as some of the more common diseases. Think of diabetes where everyone and their dog would accept that someone has it if they say so (assuming they aren't lying lol) but tell someone you are depressed and some won't believe you. They'll think you are lazy and don't want to do work. Maybe that you're making it up etc... and that makes it harder to open up about it.

Having said that, I think having support like your brother is exactly the kind of things that will help you through it. Being able to open up to someone, confide in them and just work with them to help you get past it is great. Since I'm curious, when you were thinking of killing yourself, were you on the meds? With some meds like the SSRIs, you get your energy back within several weeks(usually 3 weeks) though your mood is unchanged for another one to three weeks after (4-6 weeks since treatment start). This means that you can still feel saddened and such but now you have the energy to try and commit suicide. Far as I know, patients should be informed about this. I guess I'm just wondering if the meds you are on atm (I presume) would've caused one of those attempts. Mind if I ask what med you're trying now if that's not too personal? On another note, I'm expecting a "I beat depression" blog in the near future! lol.

On April 10 2014 09:04 boesthius wrote:
The ECT conversation: i don't think i've ever heard of it before. i'll ask my doctor about it next week but from what you guys are sharing it seems like the last resort of last resorts.

ECT is indeed a last resort. Unless you've exhausted all the different type of meds and tried everything with not much change in your depression (still severe), I would avoid it. The SSRIs mentioned earlier, basically meds like citalopram and paroxetine (there's quite a bit of different ones) are usually first line therapy when it comes to depression because they are quite tolerable.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11367 Posts
April 10 2014 01:55 GMT
#33
Woah, crazy blog again. Thanks for sharing.

...that Canucks video, haha. I did a double take because I was sure you weren't Canadian. Are you Californian, then or just into hockey? Oh Gillis. Having Trevor Linden on board for us should be interesting.
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 10 2014 03:07 GMT
#34
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 10 2014 06:00 GMT
#35
yay boes blog :3

I can't say I know depression well enough to give any worthwhile advice on it because it's my worst MU, but I'm glad you 2-0'd that biatch. gg no re

dat fashion sense tho
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 07:57:20
April 10 2014 07:57 GMT
#36
S A D B O Y S
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 10 2014 10:30 GMT
#37
Yup Anna Kendrick is mint.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 11:26:23
April 10 2014 11:21 GMT
#38
i know some friend (doctor) treats depression partly with making the person read classical litterature or philosophy works if the person is able to do so

not so much because of the content, but to help the person focus outside depression and its recursive train of thought

i know he sometimes uses this or extracts : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Certainty


edit : he also told me that studies show that heavy computer/internet usage when you're depressive is pretty toxic and can hinder treatment alot

computer + depression is a dangerous cocktail it seems
Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
April 10 2014 13:00 GMT
#39
I can definitely relate. A year ago I was really done with my life. But the second half of it my state of mind improved a ton. Now everything seems to be going to shit again.

I wish you the best.
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
April 10 2014 13:07 GMT
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