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On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane.
...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves.
@Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day
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On April 10 2014 02:35 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane. ...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves. @Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day It's actually the most effective way to treat severe depression, and would be a lot more common if it werent for the memory loss and the bad PR. Yeah, changing medication might work to some degree, or titrating the existing dose, but severe, long melancholic depressions are a bitch to get rid of, even with medication. Obviously I dont know exactly how bad he is at the moment, but its entirely ordinary advice to give.
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On April 10 2014 02:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 02:35 Scarecrow wrote:On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane. ...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves. @Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day It's actually the most effective way to treat severe depression, and would be a lot more common if it werent for the memory loss and the bad PR. Yeah, changing medication might work to some degree, or titrating the existing dose, but severe, long melancholic depressions are a bitch to get rid of, even with medication. Obviously I dont know exactly how bad he is at the moment, but its entirely ordinary advice to give.
It's not like X treatment will cure it. You can't throw money and medicine to fix something like that.
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One of the best things a depressed person can do is focus on eating a healthy diet and exercising. It's not some cure-all, but it does help significantly.
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On April 10 2014 02:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 02:35 Scarecrow wrote:On April 10 2014 02:22 Dazed_Spy wrote:
If your depression is severe enough to result in two suicide attempts, and the medication isnt working (which i presume your on?) you might want to look into ECT. It's an 'extreme' measure, but your obviously in an extreme circumstance, and its not like one flies over the cuckoos nest. Its humane. ...Or maybe just find a different medication or therapist. Going under general anaesthetic to have your brain electrocuted sounds like it should be an absolute last resort for when someone's perpetually trying to kill themselves. @Boes amazing taste in women and you're handsome as, should come visit your waifu's one day It's actually the most effective way to treat severe depression, and would be a lot more common if it werent for the memory loss and the bad PR. Yeah, changing medication might work to some degree, or titrating the existing dose, but severe, long melancholic depressions are a bitch to get rid of, even with medication. Obviously I dont know exactly how bad he is at the moment, but its entirely ordinary advice to give.
ECT is hardcore but effective yes.
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i miss the boes streamu 
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On April 10 2014 00:39 Ctone23 wrote:
I went through a long period of depression. You're right, there is really no way for other people to understand. Most people are way too obsessed with themselves to care, and a lot of people who become depressed, got that way because they too cared about themselves way too much, how they look, etc.
I've gotten into a depression because I didn't care enough about myself... funny how life works. Or perhaps it's the same thing...
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I'm supporting someone with rather severe borderline (in my opinion). Lots of downs and sometimes an up. Most of the time she hides her constant suicidal feeling and I become unaware of it. It helps me function better with a little less burden on my mind. Today we had a talk (together with an external person) where the suicidal feelings were brought up and it was nice just to have that communicated. To regain the mutual understanding of mutual understanding of the situation (yes I wrote that double on purpose).
I don't think it'd make any sense to write generic advice here. Useful advice will always need to be made in context and in concrete terms. But I wish you all luck.
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Thanks for the blog. I've had the good fortune of never going through depression but I've dealt with people who have had it in the past and also through a call center that I used to work at, it's a really rough condition to have. I think what makes it worse is that it's still not as accepted as some of the more common diseases. Think of diabetes where everyone and their dog would accept that someone has it if they say so (assuming they aren't lying lol) but tell someone you are depressed and some won't believe you. They'll think you are lazy and don't want to do work. Maybe that you're making it up etc... and that makes it harder to open up about it.
Having said that, I think having support like your brother is exactly the kind of things that will help you through it. Being able to open up to someone, confide in them and just work with them to help you get past it is great. Since I'm curious, when you were thinking of killing yourself, were you on the meds? With some meds like the SSRIs, you get your energy back within several weeks(usually 3 weeks) though your mood is unchanged for another one to three weeks after (4-6 weeks since treatment start). This means that you can still feel saddened and such but now you have the energy to try and commit suicide. Far as I know, patients should be informed about this. I guess I'm just wondering if the meds you are on atm (I presume) would've caused one of those attempts. Mind if I ask what med you're trying now if that's not too personal? On another note, I'm expecting a "I beat depression" blog in the near future! lol.
On April 10 2014 09:04 boesthius wrote:
The ECT conversation: i don't think i've ever heard of it before. i'll ask my doctor about it next week but from what you guys are sharing it seems like the last resort of last resorts.
ECT is indeed a last resort. Unless you've exhausted all the different type of meds and tried everything with not much change in your depression (still severe), I would avoid it. The SSRIs mentioned earlier, basically meds like citalopram and paroxetine (there's quite a bit of different ones) are usually first line therapy when it comes to depression because they are quite tolerable.
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Canada11564 Posts
Woah, crazy blog again. Thanks for sharing.
...that Canucks video, haha. I did a double take because I was sure you weren't Canadian. Are you Californian, then or just into hockey? Oh Gillis. Having Trevor Linden on board for us should be interesting.
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yay boes blog :3
I can't say I know depression well enough to give any worthwhile advice on it because it's my worst MU, but I'm glad you 2-0'd that biatch. gg no re
dat fashion sense tho
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Yup Anna Kendrick is mint.
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i know some friend (doctor) treats depression partly with making the person read classical litterature or philosophy works if the person is able to do so
not so much because of the content, but to help the person focus outside depression and its recursive train of thought
i know he sometimes uses this or extracts : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Certainty
edit : he also told me that studies show that heavy computer/internet usage when you're depressive is pretty toxic and can hinder treatment alot
computer + depression is a dangerous cocktail it seems
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I can definitely relate. A year ago I was really done with my life. But the second half of it my state of mind improved a ton. Now everything seems to be going to shit again.
I wish you the best.
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