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I've played so many RPG's the past decade and every year there was plenty of new stuff to play.
But lately I found myself having to go back to play the old gems again, since I can hardly find anything new.
Thing is, you can always go back to play BG, Torment, Morrowind etc again, but after the Xth playthrough every game will get boring.
And it seems since Skyrim, Mass Effect3, Witcher 2 there haven't been many big PC releases at all. Every time I check game and RPG sites there are only new RPG releases for consoles.
Dragon age 3 is coming, and I hope they learned about the mistakes they made with 2. But that's still a while away. And I could use a big world to explore and spend way to many hours in.
My question to you guys is if you can recommend me some nice ones that I might have missed. No MMO's or Diablo kind of games, but the ones with and epic world, story line, immersion and char development. Graphics are less important.
Maybe there's some nice Indy RPG I might have missed?
   
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Although you probably played it already, you didnt cite Kotor. It's not recent but it's still one of the best Star Wars games out there. Kotor2 is also pretty good, so if you actually somehow missed them go get them asap.
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On March 20 2014 22:28 BobMcJohnson wrote: Although you probably played it, you didnt cite Kotor. It's not recent but it's still one of the best Star Wars games out there. Kotor2 is also pretty good. Kotor surpasses most RPG's of recent years. The only game that I came to love more than it was Oblivion.
The most recent indie RPG I've played on Steam is Valdis Story: Abyssal City
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United States15536 Posts
Bravely Default is a lovely 3DS RPG.
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I've had some fun with Skyborn last couple of days. Retro-style game with, insofar, interesting characters and a good story development. I haven't played more than 2 hours though. The game doesn't seem to be too long either.
Bought it off steam for like 1,5 euros on sale.
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Yup played Kotor of course, at least 5 times 
And The Stick of Truth too, it was fun but way too short
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http://www.gog.com/game/avernum_the_complete_saga
this is a remake of the exile trilogy, which was an old but extremely huge shareware game from back in the mid 90s. this is a turn based classic rpg. 4 chars, lots of classes/create your own class, big world (especially the third one) huge story, etc
it is also on steam, but i think it is more expensive. there's also avernum escape from the pit, which is a remake of this remake with more updated graphics.
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Sounds like you need to go play Vampire: The masquerade - bloodlines. Just remember to get the bug fixing patch.
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Thanks for posting guys And yep played them both, Avernum and Vampire, great games indeed for anyone reading this.
Seems I've played them all so far, I've really ran out Do I really need to buy a console.... keep them coming though, I've still got hope!
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On March 20 2014 22:59 Zandar wrote:Thanks for posting guys And yep played them both, Avernum and Vampire, great games indeed for anyone reading this. Seems I've played them all so far, I've really ran out Do I really need to buy a console.... keep them coming though, I've still got hope! You should be able to play quite a lot of console games on emulators just fine, especially for the older ones.
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Witcher 2 was awesome, just saying. I'm looking forward to Dark Souls 2 when it comes out. PC is in April, console has already been released. Agree with you on DA2, was horrible and hope they learnt from their mistakes before releasing DA3. I also enjoyed Mass Effect 2, number 3 wasn't that good.
Let us know what you decided on and how it is for you.
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Dark Souls 2
I heard that shit was both amazing and cringing due to difficulty.
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Icewind Dale 1? I guess you have already played everything in the Infinity Engine.
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I like mount and blade warband a lot, but that's really not that story heavy. Deus ex maybe? Fallout 3/New Vegas?
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On March 20 2014 23:12 Marcinko wrote: Witcher 2 was awesome, just saying.
Uh... sure, I guess, if you like adolescent fantasy games where you kill swarms of bad guys while buttrock plays and women flash their tits at you.
Dark Souls was great too, I loved how it told me to push the A button to do things... while I was playing on PC. But it was dark, which I guess is good enough for the masses.
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I personally enjoyed Shadowrun Returns and Dragonfall. Arcanum was also not mentioned yet. Neverwinter Nights was also not mentioned but I assume you know that title already.
It sounds like you've basically exhausted the history of western CRPGs so I'll mention some titles outside that genre that I've been (re)playing recently. Tales of Graces, Golden Sun, Chrono Trigger, Seiken Densetsu 3. All Japanese, so you might not like the genre, but excellent in their own department.
Tabletop RPGs also unlock amazing new worlds, but again that's a different genre.
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On March 21 2014 00:37 EchOne wrote: I personally enjoyed Shadowrun Returns and Dragonfall. Arcanum was also not mentioned yet. Neverwinter Nights was also not mentioned but I assume you know that title already.
It sounds like you've basically exhausted the history of western CRPGs so I'll mention some titles outside that genre that I've been (re)playing recently. Tales of Graces, Golden Sun, Chrono Trigger, Seiken Densetsu 3. All Japanese, so you might not like the genre, but excellent in their own department.
Tabletop RPGs also unlock amazing new worlds, but again that's a different genre.
some good advice here on the Japanese games, all classics!
have you ever played Divinity II? it's not a GREAT game but it's fun, though it definitely won't hit you as being a classic. Also, though I don't know if i'm allowed to post it because they're technically illegal AND you have probably played them all already anyway, have you played the SNES classics through and through? personally, the classic SNES RPG's (Seiken Densetsu 3 included) probably gave me the most enjoyable experiences in video games I've ever had.
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Divinity 2
At least I enjoyed it more than I expected, unfortunately while the game is pretty ambitious I don't think it had the biggest budget which causes some obvious shortcomings.
Oh wow the above poster ninjad me pretty hard, well 2 votes better than 1.
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Divine Divinity Fallout 1 & 2 Jade Empire Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2 Maybe Drakensang, haven't played the games but their scores are usually fine Risen
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Final Fantasy X is worth the PS2, I feel
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On March 20 2014 22:33 AsmodeusXI wrote: Bravely Default is a lovely 3DS RPG.
this, If you're into JRPGs Bravely Default is a must play for 3DS owners.
otherwise I'd suggest playing Radiant Historia for the DS(at least there are emulators for DS unlike 3DS)
also Soul blazer trilogy(Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma)
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Ultima IX, Arcanum, Final Fantasy 8.
I just bought Might and Magic X Legacy on steam, only 20 minutes in, too early to recommend, but it is interresting so far, also Dark Souls 2 coming up for pc. Southpark Stick of truth is amazing if you are a southpark fan, but really too short to lose yourself in.
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dont know if you'd play something like Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup i saw a post on TL, downloaded it and am delighted with it, it feels like an RPG to me and has brought many hours of fun, its extremely hard and deep, the class system is really good and very diverse. any off the fallout games from 1 to new Vegas i recommend 2 as my favorite, Zelda-link to the past can be emulated easily Good luck on your mission and report back on how it goes
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On March 21 2014 00:14 HackBenjamin wrote:Uh... sure, I guess, if you like adolescent fantasy games where you kill swarms of bad guys while buttrock plays and women flash their tits at you. Dark Souls was great too, I loved how it told me to push the A button to do things... while I was playing on PC. But it was dark, which I guess is good enough for the masses.
What would you recommend then? Name it and I'll try it.
The Witcher books are also pretty good..
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There are 500h+ of modules for NWN1 and 2. In case you havn't been into that part of the games.
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lol, "good enough for the masses" is a terrible way to describe Dark Souls... Masses are usually not pleased by games that don't hold their hand, aren't free to play, and frustratingly difficult. A true ARPG fan gets the most out of a game like Dark Souls, while a member of the "masses" realizes eventually that the game is way out of their league. By far, Dark Souls was the best ARPG on 360 and PS3 (maybe until Dark Souls 2). The PC version is probably much better, considering you can mod.
If you're into repetitive mouse-clicking enemies down, linear travel and the illusion of choice, you might enjoy Jade Empire.
Ultima games have been historically quite good, for fans of classic games. Six, 7 & 9 are considered to be the best ones.
There are a wealth of great Final Fantasies, if you haven't played them all. They're pretty much all good, with the exception of X2 and for it's simplicity, XIII was also pretty bad, though the cinematics were pretty, and you're not forced to use the "easy button" all the way through.
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-Jade empire is a solid game but nothing spectacular. -Divine divinity is awesome -Final fantasies are worth playing 6 through 12 (not including X-2, XI) XIII for visuals, PSP titles are amazing but not really RPGs (cept tactics, play tactics.) -Fallout / Elder scrolls titles. Tell me you've played a good modded morrowind / skyrim? Might not be an "rpg" to some though. -Kingdoms of amalur: reckoning is a reasonably good standalone RPG. -Deus ex: HR has some RPG elements and is great. -Pokemon, gen 1/2 remakes are my fave, some solid difficulty hacks out there (Liquid crystal, FireRed Omega, Blaze black / volt white + other by same author)
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If turn-based tactical squad games can be considered RPGs, Fallout:Tactics is a good one. By far, it's my favourite Fallout game.
It's not really "turn-based", but the combat system uses Action Points. One nice thing about it is the ability to micro your squad like you would units in SC2. Stutter-stepping is totally legit vs melee enemies, or you could pack a humvee full of squadies and mow shit down while exploring the map.
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Fallout Tactics and Deus Ex HR are at least as much RPG as Mass Effect 3. Also the Front Mission series could be considered linear RPGs, especially Front Mission 3 (which features the biggest plot twist in any game, and right at the beginning too).
Infinite Space is a good sci-fi RPG too, the characters are mostly likeable and customization is huge, although combat can get a bit grindy.
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Baldur's Gate 1 remains my favorite game of all time, but about a year ago a discovered Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura and I cant recommend it highly enough. It broke into my top 5 games of all time after a couple days of playing it, despite the fact I'm not a huge fan of steampunk in general. If you have never played it, play it.
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If you have consoles: Demon's Soul, Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2
If only PC: Dark Souls 2 for windows coming this April.
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If you like tactic games (I'm a RPG fan and I also like tactic games so perhaps you'll like it too) get Dolphin (wii-gamecube emulator) and get the 2 fire emblem titles (radiant down and and path of radiance). And get the wii-gaùmecube RPGs, baiten kaitos 1 & 2, xenoblade chronicles, the last story, skies of arcadia legends...
Dark Souls for PC is also amazing, even tho it's an action RPG it's a must play, and a must 100% if you like it (lot of optionnal stuff to do)
In general get a PS1, PS2, SNES and other emulators and gogo. For instance the whole nocturne/persona (Shin Megami Tensei) serie is fantastic and is about 8 games or something. Persona 3 (and 1 and 2), Nocturne (must play !), Devil summoner serie, Devil Survivor, Digital Devil Saga...basically if Atlus made it and it's a RPG, gogo.
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Was mentioned earlier, but Chrono Trigger for SNES is, imo, possibly the greatest game of all time. If someone could do with 2015 tools what Chrono Trigger did with 1995 tools...the game was just way ahead of its time, though dated now.
I personally never played BG or BG2 so I'm finally just starting up a char in BGEE, looking forward to it very much.
I think most of the other games I would recommend have already been mentioned. Morrowind might be up there with Chrono Trigger for me, I definitely thought Oblivion and Skyrim were steps back in terms of everything other than graphics.
I tried the Gothic series of games but I couldn't get them to run smoothly on my laptop for some reason. A lot of the like 2005-2007ish era games (NWN2 also) for some reason give my newer laptops trouble and I never could figure out why. Gothic is supposed to be Morrowind-like though which is what made me want to try it.
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If you have a PS3 Final Fantasy X HD remaster is awesome. Diablo 3 Reaper of souls comes out next week if you want to play that.
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Age of Decadence is an indie old-school western RPG you might have missed, you can play about 2/3 of it if you pre-order, or play the first town for free. It's quite challenging, and basically the Dark Souls of turn-based RPGs.
Divinity: Original Sin is prettier than AoD but less challenging, and is similarly a turn-based tactical game with lots of player choices. Also there's co-op. Still in early-access mode though.
Pillars of Eternity is coming out this year and looks pretty good.
The Dark Souls series is more action than RPG, but still quite fun.
On March 21 2014 03:09 WeaponX.7 wrote: Baldur's Gate 1 remains my favorite game of all time, but about a year ago a discovered Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura and I cant recommend it highly enough. It broke into my top 5 games of all time after a couple days of playing it, despite the fact I'm not a huge fan of steampunk in general. If you have never played it, play it.
I enjoyed all of Troika's games. Arcanum has a brilliantly designed world with lots of secrets for the player to discover, Temple of Elemental Evil has fun tactical combat, and Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines is as close as a non Deus Ex game will come to capturing the feeling of Deus Ex.
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Risen Gothic 3 (I understand it's pretty decent now if you mod/community patch it correctly?)
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I realize those are at least semi big titles and it sounds like you are pretty HC and old school and odds are you've tried those.
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On March 21 2014 04:56 d00p wrote: Risen Gothic 3 (I understand it's pretty decent now if you mod/community patch it correctly?)
Interestingly enough I would say Fallout New Vegas is somewhat of a spiritual successor to the Gothic series, in that it's an open world that can be shaped by player choices, as opposed to the Bethesda made games where the world is mostly static and the player is meant to explore it rather than shape it.
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I've only ever heard good things about the Gothic series. Apparently, they're quite heavy on learning curve, too.
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I've been playing Morrowind recently and it's pretty good, I recommend it.
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You'd have a job finding it but Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for Gamecube/PS2 was a pretty good mix of hack n slash with rpg. Obviously being a D&D game, the rpg element was very well done. It plays a bit like Diablo III, in fact it plays a lot like Diablo III does on the xbox lol but the story, gameplay, etc etc is waaaaay better.
the only issue i ever had was how easy it was to completely abuse the import character feature to boost your gold and buy all the best items well before you should be able to by playing legit. I was even more pissed off that I hadn't figured out that I could abuse it, until I had already played thru the game 4 times!!!!!!!!
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I forgot to give a shout-out to Mount and Blade: Warband which was mentioned earlier in this thread. It's a fantastic game, especially for the price, and there are tons of mods to give it replayability.
In and of itself, it's more "true-to-life" in that there is no magic, but there are mods that include those elements if that's what you want. There's also a really popular Game of Thrones mod that I've never tried because the specs to run it are a lot beefier than the native game, and my current machine is far from beefy. It's on my list of games to play when I splurge on a new rig.
If you do try it out, I would look into getting the "Pre-Battle Orders and Deployment" and "Diplomacy" mods, which add better AI and more realistic features to the native game.
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Vagrant Story is a great game for the playstation that you could emulate.
It's not an rpg, but if you want a game with amazing immersion and characters, The Last Express is awesome. It's like a graphic adventure I suppose. Like an RPG without the grinding. I always try and bring it up because I think it's the most amazing game.
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On March 21 2014 01:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 22:33 AsmodeusXI wrote: Bravely Default is a lovely 3DS RPG. this, If you're into JRPGs Bravely Default is a must play for 3DS owners. otherwise I'd suggest playing Radiant Historia for the DS(at least there are emulators for DS unlike 3DS) also Soul blazer trilogy(Soul Blazer/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma)
Gonna give this a second shout out. Both Bravely Default and Radiant Historia are amazing games for the 3DS and DS respectively. I recommend them both =).
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Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (what a title, eh).
It's not super polished but it's fun to play, though my playthroughs were 60 hours. It's a little grindy and money is useless late game unless you wanna shell out huge money for repairs (when you can just buy repair kits for chump change and repair yourself).
If you abuse the game's crafting, respecing, potion/power stacking (potions that, for instance, increase fire damage 50%) you can trivialize tons of the game even on the hardest difficulty, which isn't that hard. I just try to play and have a more normal experience. Sadly, that normal experience is likely to include an onerous inventory management system. Maybe you don't like to wiki games on first playthroughs, but I'd wiki the backpack locations. It's not much of a spoiler.
This reminds me, I just played through the original KotoR once more, and it got my RPG juices flowing too :/ Witcher is what I anticipate the most, but like a previous poster criticized, I find the women throwing themselves at the main character a bit of a drawback from an otherwise mature story (mature audience required and mature story are two potentially very different things both put into Witcher).
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Geneforge. There are free demos available.
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If you don't mind bad gfx Ultimas IV and V from the 80's far surpass most modern RPGs in terms of story and an imaginative, original game world.
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Fire emblem?
Kinda?
IDK!
I like it though :D
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On March 21 2014 13:33 tomatriedes wrote: If you don't mind bad gfx Ultimas IV and V from the 80's far surpass most modern RPGs in terms of story and an imaginative, original game world.
When I was a kid I used to drop rubbish in front of the king and then laugh hysterically whenever it disappeared thinking the king probably ate it
good times, Ultima, even though that's the only memory I have of those games
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so glad (and sad ) i saw this thread, i've got a long list of games to try now but no time to try them
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On March 21 2014 01:36 Marcinko wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 00:14 HackBenjamin wrote:On March 20 2014 23:12 Marcinko wrote: Witcher 2 was awesome, just saying. Uh... sure, I guess, if you like adolescent fantasy games where you kill swarms of bad guys while buttrock plays and women flash their tits at you. Dark Souls was great too, I loved how it told me to push the A button to do things... while I was playing on PC. But it was dark, which I guess is good enough for the masses. What would you recommend then? Name it and I'll try it. The Witcher books are also pretty good..
fuck him. that guy is an ass. witcher is amazing and dark souls does not pander to the masses.
im playing vampires right now, fucking amazing. My advice is to pick up the game called...holy shit you played all the great ones already.
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Judging from what you said in the OP, we have a very similar taste in games. A recent game I've really enjoyed is Might and Magic X: Legacy. It really sucked me in and has great character development, I highly recommend it. However, you should check out some video's on it first, it is a throw-back to the first few MaM games, which are 20-25 years old. The only negative thing about it is the optimisation/performance, gameplay wise it's superb. Also, if you decide to play, do so on the highest difficulty.
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Thanks for all the suggestions so far. I've played most but not all  gonna try Might & Magic first then. I saw some bad reviews, but maybe it's just not for all. I quite liked the old ones.
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This is great reading just for a list of RPG games to play. Thanks guys!
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Parasite Eve, if you can get over the dated graphics. It's Resident Evil turned RPG-ish, complete with a bonus 99-level dungeon to boot. Parasite Eve 2 is also decent, although it's pretty much a straight action game.
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On March 21 2014 04:56 d00p wrote: Risen Gothic 3 (I understand it's pretty decent now if you mod/community patch it correctly?)
if one brings up Risen and Gothic 3, Gothic 1 and 2 should be mentioned as well. Both titles surpass part 3 and Risen (aka unofficial successor to the Gothic series).They create a wonderful dark and dirty atmosphere with well written and witty dialogues. for their time, they were truly amazing. I don't know how the English version is though, since they were initially made for the German market and thus have been produced in German. Translations can kill an RPG :S
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On March 22 2014 03:17 tar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 04:56 d00p wrote: Risen Gothic 3 (I understand it's pretty decent now if you mod/community patch it correctly?) if one brings up Risen and Gothic 3, Gothic 1 and 2 should be mentioned as well. Both titles surpass part 3 and Risen (aka unofficial successor to the Gothic series).They create a wonderful dark and dirty atmosphere with well written and witty dialogues. for their time, they were truly amazing. I don't know how the English version is though, since they were initially made for the German market and thus have been produced in German. Translations can kill an RPG :S
Gothic 1 has some pretty bad translations and voice acting, Gothic 2 is fine.
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Koudelka is a really f-ed up ps1 rpg too, really, really weird gothic style.
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Suikoden I and II for the PSX are pretty great RPGs in my opinion. Suikoden II can be very difficult to come by though and it's expensive to buy on eBay and Amazon. Unless you can read Japanese!
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i'm also playing "mount&blade warband" at the moment. game is amazing.
it's an rpg/simulation of 5 countries co-existing, doing their things, even without your influence. you're free to go where you want, work together with who you want, or fight against them. recruit a big army, but earn money to afford and upgrade your soldiers. it's difficult.
so, the singleplayer is pretty fucking awesome. but there's one thing even better. warband introduced multiplayer to the original m&b. warband is only an expansion, and the multiplayer is what really sets it apart from original m&b . the game shines in mp, due to the deep fighting system. there's a lot of things to master, like ranged fights (bow/crossbow), regular melee fighting or using a lance on a horse, to name the most important ones. expect huge battles, conquering castles, or simply deathmatch...
the learning curve is pretty steep though. better play sp before mp, just to learn fighting basics. needless to mention the high skill cap.
game is awesome.
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Netherlands4992 Posts
If you can handle MS-DOS graphics: Dark Sun
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On March 21 2014 14:17 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 01:36 Marcinko wrote:On March 21 2014 00:14 HackBenjamin wrote:On March 20 2014 23:12 Marcinko wrote: Witcher 2 was awesome, just saying. Uh... sure, I guess, if you like adolescent fantasy games where you kill swarms of bad guys while buttrock plays and women flash their tits at you. Dark Souls was great too, I loved how it told me to push the A button to do things... while I was playing on PC. But it was dark, which I guess is good enough for the masses. What would you recommend then? Name it and I'll try it. The Witcher books are also pretty good.. fuck him. that guy is an ass. witcher is amazing and dark souls does not pander to the masses. im playing vampires right now, fucking amazing. My advice is to pick up the game called...holy shit you played all the great ones already.
I'm calling a spade a spade... what exactly is so amazing about The Witcher? Golgotha can look at tits without a subscription?
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Earthbound for SNES. I remember loving that game when I was younger.
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