Treat them like ladies...

I was getting really mad

I am writing this because at the time I didn't care too much, but since I got home that night I've been so angry.

On January 16 2014 06:14 Kaeru wrote:

I just don't understand how you can threat someone like that, openly, with a smile on your face. I truly believe that he didn't see anything wrong with what he was doing.

Most people are really kind.

On January 16 2014 06:37 Smurfett3 wrote:
in the usa, prositution is illegal ! this should be stopped!


But this took place in bangkok (bang - kok), prostitution is a job there just like being a mail man or school teacher. They all fall under the "paid services" industry

On January 16 2014 07:00 Kaeru wrote:


The thing is that it is so open here that many people "accept" it. Some girls are really not desperate for money, but they just want to buy a new phone or so... They go out, party and if they see a guy they think looks good - they talk to him and say that they will go with him for money.

I compare that to girls in Sweden that have sex with a guy just because he buys a bottle of champagne in a nightclub... No denying that isn't uncommon...

On January 16 2014 07:17 vOdToasT wrote:


Then that is their choice to make. I won't try to stop them from doing something that doesn't hurt any one else.

On January 16 2014 08:35 MarlieChurphy wrote:
You said you are angry that you feel you know why he did this? Explain.

On January 16 2014 06:00 vOdToasT wrote:
Many humans are just evil. They will exploit others for their own benefit when they can. The only way to prevent it is to create a system in which exploitation is difficult, because if it can be done, it will be done.

On January 16 2014 09:23 Rainling wrote:

How can you say people are "just evil?" How do you know what's going on in their heads when they do things? You wouldn't consider yourself to be an evil person when you do terrible things, as undoubtedly you have to some extent.

I think this sort of behavior results from the same roots that cause you and I to behave unethically: laziness, carelessness, or inability to empathize with others.

On January 16 2014 08:11 LockeTazeline wrote:


If it hurts themselves, that's just as bad as hurting someone else.

On January 16 2014 10:23 Kaeru wrote:


If it's their own free choice and up to them what customers to chose. I don't have anything against prostitution. I would just hope that people that buy their service treat them with respect - in the same way I hope that people that hire a gardener treats him with respect...

I don't see much difference between a girl asking for money to have sex and a girl having sex with a guy just because he can afford a few bottles of champagne in a nightclub. The difference is honesty and they both are directly or indirectly after money.

On January 16 2014 06:37 Smurfett3 wrote:
in the usa, prositution is illegal ! this should be stopped!


But this took place in bangkok (bang - kok), prostitution is a job there just like being a mail man or school teacher. They all fall under the "paid services" industry

I don't believe that there is any meaning to life, I believe that we are simply born, we live and then we die.

On January 16 2014 08:52 Kaeru wrote:

Some prostitutes in the streets are really annoying, they grab your arm or block your way and start asking "you go with me?" and if you are really nice and say "please, i'm not interested. I am just out to get some food, can you move?". They just ask "Why? You don't like me?" and keep asking questions until you get mad.

On January 16 2014 09:52 vOdToasT wrote:


Given the right circumstances, it is very likely that I could have become something that I currently consider evil.
I don't think we are using the same definition of evil.

On January 16 2014 05:45 Kaeru wrote:A common sentence is "What happens in XXX stays in XXX.". It actually follows you within your heart, when you go back home...

On January 16 2014 10:36 vOdToasT wrote:


I'm glad I'm not the only one who considers marrying, (or being in any long lasting sexual relationship) for money a form of long-term prostitution. I don't want to stop people from doing that, I just want all parties involved to be honest - to each other, and to themselves. It is what it is, don't beat around the bush.

Also, like you said, I don't want people to abuse their servitors.

On January 16 2014 09:44 iamho wrote:
Don't be such a priss, the businessman wasn't "evil" because he treated a whore like shit. Who the hell are you to judge other people's consensual business transactions.

On January 16 2014 16:34 saltywet wrote:
I'm in china.. I have a friend who is close friends with a female pimp, who knows this 20 year old prostitute who's been in the business for 5-6 years. I was told that 2 years ago the prostitute had her vagina destroyed through sex, she was sent to hospital and nearly died (she can't have kids anymore), and the guy who was supposed to take care of her only (was paying the mortgage on her home) only paid off half of the payment then ran off and disappeared, couldn't be contacted. Her story was pretty tragic, but she became a demon reborn. She's a master at deceiving men now, she was able to trick the men into paying off the rest of the payment on her home AND she basically received money from multiple men that she has two houses now.

So one basic rule when dealing with prostitutes, at least in china, is to never fall in love with one, no matter how genuinely in love they appear to be in with you. Of course, some prostitutes might be genuinely nice but the chances of them being really good at coaxing money off of you is probably higher than the chances of them being nice.

On January 17 2014 04:34 tili wrote:


Wtf. He treated a *person* like shit. She didn't agree to be treated like shit, and even if she did, the power dynamic is obviously warped.

Besides which, he lied and broke a spoken, informal contract which she had clearly agreed to.

On January 17 2014 04:29 QuanticHawk wrote:



dating is prostitution eh

please tell me more about your progressive views dawg

People treat eachother like shit every day for multiple reasons, and there's plenty of warped power dynamics already.

As for the broken contract, if you can't tell what's going on in there... Or do you expect that somebody who makes a problem out of $25 for drinks will want to pay for a night with a girl?

On January 17 2014 04:53 Nikon wrote:


People treat eachother like shit every day for multiple reasons, and there's plenty of warped power dynamics already.

As for the broken contract, if you can't tell what's going on in there... Or do you expect that somebody who makes a problem out of $25 for drinks will want to pay for a night with a girl?

On January 16 2014 06:28 intrigue wrote:
renamed your thread because it's a very unfortunate misspelling you are using. in fact i'd have renamed it "treat them like people" because dudes that treat women well but are scumbags to other men are pretty disgusting too!

On January 17 2014 05:58 vOdToasT wrote:

People rape and murder each other every day. That doesn't make it acceptable. This argument is stupid. If what he did was ok, it wasn't for this reason.



Perhaps the woman was a fool, but it's not ok to exploit peoples foolishness. Or perhaps she was so desperate that she wanted to take the slim chance. In Bangladesh, many people are borderline starving (and are homeless). Prostitution could very well have been her only way of making any money.

On January 17 2014 07:24 tili wrote:


Sequentially, she would have no way of knowing he would fuss about the drinks, and do you think she was accepting humiliation for fun?

Also, the 'people do x everyday' argument is complete bullshit. The existence of many problems does not excuse any number of specific injustices, and it is the summation of individual instances that make such statements possible.

Also, what is your point? That she deserved it or that it doesn't matter?

On January 17 2014 07:39 enord wrote:

intrigue <3


staying a caring person is nigh impossible, anyone who doesn't lose hope is part of the solution

On January 17 2014 10:32 Pangpootata wrote:

a. So you are saying that it is okay for her to exploit other unrelated innocent people because she herself was exploited?

A reasonable person would expect that when one has been the subject of injustice, one would attempt to prevent others from suffering the same. Sadly, most people in the world do not think like that. For example, abused children are much more likely to become child abusers themselves.

b. That guy is just asking people not to fall in love with prostitutes, he never encouraged victimising them. One could treat the relationship purely as a business transaction and accord the prostitute the same respect one gives to a business partner usually.

On January 16 2014 06:40 hellokitty[hk] wrote:

Ahhhh that's not true!

On January 17 2014 16:10 Pangpootata wrote:

You are missing the main point of the anecdote. The prostitute, at first genuinely trusting of men, gets her body destroyed and her money cheated. She falsifies genuine affection to dupe lonely men desparate for love into paying off her house. In turn, when they are driven to financial ruin only to be dumped, these men are likely to adopt the attitude that women are just out to cheat men of their money, making them treat women (some of whom are genuinely good people) terribly. The cycle of abuse will continue unless someone wants to stop it.

Demand for prostitution is almost impossible to stem. Because the prevailing system of mate selection is male competition and female choice, there will ultimately be out-competed males who experience a great degree of sexual frustration, thereby creating the demand for prostitution. In fact, scientists have even observed behaviour in apes such as males providing food for females in exchange for sexual favours.

Moreover, it is not the problem here. The real problem is the strong social stigma against prostitution that drives prostitutes to ply their trade under shady and unsafe circumstances. If prostitution can be respected just like every other profession and prostitutes treated cordially like other workers who provide services, such as waitresses, everything would be fine.