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2013 Fall Anime: Concluding Thoughts

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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 04:30:43
January 03 2014 03:41 GMT
#1
It’s been a while since I actually kept up with anime in the on-going season. I kept my watch-list pretty short, but with the Fall season ending I figure I’d write some thoughts on what I did watch. Spoilers and opinions ahoy.

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Kyousougiga


I was initially drawn to this show by the energetic tone of the show (with matching designs and animation), interesting characters, and the world they populated. The first half of the show was simple: introduce the three main players in the Mirror Capital, and how they came to be. Structured and to the point. The three's somewhat dark pasts were nicely offset by the happy-go-lucky attitude of Koto and her two familiars. Unfortunately, even long past the halfway mark they failed to develop the characters or the world in any meaningful way, and the pacing ground to a halt. The last three episodes were simply tragic.

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Surprise villains!

With the show ending and no conclusion in sight, they hastily (re-)introduce a character and shoehorned him into the role of the primary antagonist. Except he isn't even a real villain. He actually doesn't do anything beyond disagree. In hindsight, the true villains here were the children's parents. Why would they leave their children alone for so long and not even send a postcard? So inconsiderate.

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Worse parents than Gendo Ikari

It didn't help that the animation quality also dropped like a rock, with slow, multi-minute pans with a few frames of looped filler animation becoming the norm. These scenes were of course coupled with painfully long-winded expositions that frantically try to explain what’s going on to little or no effect.

Kyousougiga started with interesting characters and a world built so they could literally do anything. Unfortunately, this was coupled with an overarching plot that was handled as poorly as possible, no antagonist, and a really lame conclusion to a problem that didn’t exist until the last three episodes. Maybe an extra episode or two might've helped. Then again, I think all the little problems that cropped up might be indicative of problems that additional time couldn't fix.

I give it a 6/10.

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Monogatari S2


I picked this series up halfway through after frantically catching up on Nisemonogatari and Nekomonogatari. The first four arcs were nothing too amazing: Tsubasa is boring in her entirety (her cat form helps slightly), Shinobu and Mayoi okay whatever, Nadeko is insane, and RIP Mayoi (I will miss your crazy encounters with Araragi). Done. Whatever. I don’t care. The only thing of note was the disturbing lack of the Fire Sisters and Suruga.

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Best girls with the most borderline mental issues

Thankfully, Kaiki arrives in all his glory to take the show out in a bang. What a great character. Conniving and cynical to the core, Kaiki’s calculated views were a nice contrast to Araragi and Co.’s general idiocy. His interactions with the odd personalities of Senjougahara and (God-)Nadeko were entertaining, to say the least. He even saves the day! What a hero. Kaiki Number One. I can only hope that he didn’t actually kick the bucket at the end there. Given how little we know about his relationship with Suruga and even Senjougahara, I doubt it, but I could be wrong. Please don't let me be wrong.

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Good night, sweet prince

Either way, Monogatari S2 not only sustained my interest in the franchise, but succeeded in getting me to forward to the next installment as well. Makes it a winner in my book!

Gave it an 8/10.

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Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta


I picked this series up after the final episode aired but managed finished it in three days. I don't know much about the 'world' of Yozakura Quartet (haven't watched the other series/OVAs, haven't read the manga) but I enjoyed the entire cast of characters and their boundless energy. Except for Akina. I guess he has his moments, but he's such a downer compared to everyone else. Fantastic animation, interesting characters with (shallow but) fun personalities and cute designs. Great sound work, too The music's not bad, but the sound effects in Yozakura Quartet really add to the show, especially during the fight scenes which would be awfully generic otherwise. Also, panty shots.

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Episode 01 - 00 minutes and 23 seconds

I have to admit, they're really well animated, but I think there are at least a dozen per episode. Sometimes they throw in one frame of underwear in a really dynamic scene, and as the frames flashes by you're left wondering ‘Was that a panty shot? I think I saw stripes. Pretty sure that was a panty shot.’ Or maybe that’s just me. At least these aren't the lazy panty shots with the viewpoint fixed directly under the skirt all that happens in the scene is the camera slowly panning up. Again, really well animated. The story arcs aren't too bad, and they manage to develop the characters and the world decently well, unlike Kyousougiga. Also unlike Kyousougiga, they took the fact that they could do practically anything they wanted in the world they built and actually used it effectively and consistently. That said, most of the 'fights' are pretty darn silly.

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It's a gigantic bouncing goldfish!

The final arc did have a few lame expositions and fights, but nothing too bad. I definitely did end up liking the show more than I expected to. I went into the show thinking that it was going to be a shounen action show, but it ended up being more of a slice of life comedy. I'm not going to complain. Sure, the characters are fairly one-dimensional individually, but they supplemented each other fairly well. It was their funny little interactions during their every day lives that really made the show for me. The conclusion was sort of happy and lame, but I’m hoping there will be one more season to wrap things up nicely with a ribbon on top. Too bad that's not going to happen.

Solid 7/10.

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Ongoing: Kill la Kill


Let me preface this by saying that I really enjoyed Tengen Toppa Gurran Lagan. That show definitely had its ups and downs, but it had a lot of character and spunk that made it memorable. So you tell me that the director and writer for TTGL are working on a new show together? All aboard the hype train. But now, with Kill la Kill half over, I can say that I've lost 95% of my interest in it. The show certainly has its own unique flair, but it’s been overused to death at this point. The main character who is confident yet next to useless on her own doesn’t help, either. In TTGL, Simon was pretty useless but he eventually found it in himself to become a badass. What is Matoi going to do in KLK? Find it in herself to wear even more revealing variations of Senketsu? Senketsu is clearly doing all the heavy lifting, while Matoi just acts as a blood-circulating sack of meat for the former to cling on to. I guess there’s another seasons worth of episodes left, so maybe it'll turn around and become awesome. Spoiler: I'm not holding my breath.

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Dropped: Non Non Biyori


I wanted to like this show. I’ve made my peace with slice of life shows featuring an all-female cast doing nothing but act cute before. I wanted Non Non Biyori to fill that role on my watch-list, but alas. Generic characters and slow pacing? That’s fine. It’s par for the course as far as I’m concerned. It’s the nature of the genre. For NNB it was instead the god-awfully slow pacing of the joke delivery that killed me. The shorter jokes felt like they dragged on for half a minute too long, and the longer ones I just sat waiting for 10 agonizing minutes for that dumb punchline. I got to three episodes. On that third ep I found myself pressing that Fast Forward key every other second, and I knew I had to drop it. Slice of life is usually my cup of tea, but man, watching NNB was like Chinese water torture.

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All in all, not a bad season. I've certainly done worse than finding two enjoyable shows in a season before. The next season looks pretty grim, but I'm sure there will be something that will surprise me. I hope.

*****
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 04:16:40
January 03 2014 04:14 GMT
#2
18:14 Emnjay808 mrmim dropped nnb
18:14 Emnjay808 do we ban him?

Edit: Nice review on Yozakura. I feel the same exact way about the show. Akina didnt bother me much though.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 04:27:52
January 03 2014 04:23 GMT
#3
I haven't even watched NNB and I know you're gonna get hell for dropping it lol.

edit: fuck autocorrect
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 03 2014 04:34 GMT
#4
In my defense I dropped NNB before I found out about the rabid fanbase here. I even asked if it changed at all in the later eps! But people said no, so it stays dropped
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9153 Posts
January 03 2014 04:39 GMT
#5
you are actively regretting dropping a series because a hivemind says it's good?
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 03 2014 05:26 GMT
#6
No, just disappointed because I found NNB to be so bad.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
quebecman77
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 05:27:28
January 03 2014 05:26 GMT
#7
Kyoukai no Kanata?? Log horizon?? Kuroko no basket s2?? Tokyo ravens?? valvrave s2??

Samurai flamenco??

You missed many good one, Kyoukai no Kanata was not really amazing but this was okay... Log horizon really nice and I'm enjoying it and Kuroko no basket fun for someone who played some played basket ( my reason )

valvrave just like code Geass (same director) and samurai flamenco a really mature anime with decent pacing and animation
( Strangely some ep they do nothing yet I'm at the end and think?? wtf that finished?? While many show I'm stooping to see the time left... )

mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 03 2014 07:02 GMT
#8
I can't be expected to watch everything, right? Kyoukai no Kanata and Samurai Flamenco were on the list of shows I'd get to if I had the time, but I never got around to them. They ranked pretty low on my interest list, anyway. At best, I'll probably end up asking people what they thought once the series are over and reassess.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
January 03 2014 07:03 GMT
#9
yeah man Log Horizon would have been the best anime I watched in the fall season were it not for monogatari S2
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 03 2014 07:05 GMT
#10
Log Horizon's actually good? The whole MMO aspect turned me off on it, but I guess that was mainly because of SAO and all the bad press it got. Never actually watched that one, either.
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
January 03 2014 07:40 GMT
#11
unlike SAO its more about surviving the world, again you may not like it, but you definitely will not hate it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
January 03 2014 08:31 GMT
#12
I would personally like to attest for Gingitsune.

I won't go into a long explanation as to why it is amazing, but I certainly hope it gets a second season.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12375 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 10:08:22
January 03 2014 09:59 GMT
#13
does Senjougahara get a lot of screen time?
I read the novel already so i lost interest at the anime after a while.
in my memory, the book was based upon Senjougahara's pov which made it really interesting, did they follow that?

also Kaiki's philosophy is based upon a Chinese school of thought called:
性惡論
one of the early chinese writings that attempts to discuss about human nature.

but the story didn't really go too deep into it and dwell upon the theory that "everyone do good deeds just to please themselves, this is not the true act of kindness)

the theory basically says that human nature will only lead to bad doings if they are taught and disciplined. it's not that human nature is bad itself, it's just the consequences always end up bad actions.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-03 14:22:25
January 03 2014 14:22 GMT
#14
not liking non non is funky. very funky.
http://i.imgur.com/PAgcTUk.gif
@QxGDarkCell ._.
DeltaSigmaL
Profile Joined July 2011
United States205 Posts
January 03 2014 15:17 GMT
#15
On January 03 2014 18:59 ETisME wrote:
does Senjougahara get a lot of screen time?
I read the novel already so i lost interest at the anime after a while.
in my memory, the book was based upon Senjougahara's pov which made it really interesting, did they follow that?

also Kaiki's philosophy is based upon a Chinese school of thought called:
性惡論
one of the early chinese writings that attempts to discuss about human nature.

but the story didn't really go too deep into it and dwell upon the theory that "everyone do good deeds just to please themselves, this is not the true act of kindness)

the theory basically says that human nature will only lead to bad doings if they are taught and disciplined. it's not that human nature is bad itself, it's just the consequences always end up bad actions.

Senjougahara gets decent screen time, mostly in neko shiro, and some in koi as well, but koi is from kaiki pov.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
January 03 2014 16:19 GMT
#16
NNB isn't for everyone, I agree it is really slow so a lot of people won't be interested in it.

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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 03 2014 18:36 GMT
#17
hi min <3

ps where is the loli battleship love
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
January 03 2014 20:33 GMT
#18
I want to read the Monogatari LNs but translations look incomplete at best.

On January 03 2014 23:22 Dark.Carnival wrote:
not liking non non is funky. very funky.
http://i.imgur.com/PAgcTUk.gif

I'm funky dunky.

On January 04 2014 03:36 a176 wrote:
hi min <3

ps where is the loli battleship love


Hi a176~! Are you talking about Arpeggio? I'm reading the manga for it but I don't know if I like it enough to watch an anime adaptation...
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 00:26:19
January 04 2014 00:25 GMT
#19
the show doesnt really follow the manga. the first episode or two was a bit of a drag, so i decided to give the third episode a "last chance", and it stuck on me.

pretty good action, much kawaii battleships ~~
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 04 2014 15:34 GMT
#20
On January 03 2014 16:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
yeah man Log Horizon would have been the best anime I watched in the fall season were it not for monogatari S2

Monogatari S2 was insane.

Tsubasa is boring in her entirety (her cat form helps slightly),


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