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Fuck ESEA.
ESEA runs gaming servers, notably Counter-Strike Global Offensive servers, and their main point is competition. They have tournaments and scrims and stuff that you pay for. It costs $10 per person to play in the open tournament, and then $7 per month to be able to log on the ESEA servers. Some of you guys might be familiar with them because ESEA is a fraudulent company which integrated a bitcoin mining thing on their client which allowed them to collect bitcoins using the processing power of a massive network of computers. Fraud.
A few months ago, some friends and I decided to start playing on ESEA, a league like in the good ole days when we played on CAL. Everything went well, we were getting murdered in ESEA-open, we're no where near good enough to play even in open, but we were having a good time regardless.
About a week ago, the automated tournament thing says this week's match against team DLH is ready to be scheduled. I make an offer to play this week on Tuesday and on Wednesday, but the guy insists that we play on Thursday 10pm. Fine, that works for us although it's a little inconvenient. Today, some of my teammates show up in advance for one of the (very) rare sessions of practice. We play a few games to get warmed up. We're all rusty from having not played very much recently (except for one quick game the day before).
At 9pm, one hour before the match, I get a rescheduling offer for Sunday. We can't play Sunday, so I reject it. And then the guy informs us, one hour before the match, that they can't play today. Now, normally, since we agreed on a time and date, we'd win by default due to a no-show. That's the rule.
As it turns out, though, we can't win by forfeit tonight because it's thanksgiving in the US, and that's despite the fact that THEY INSISTED that we play on Thursday @ 10pm and they didn't even try to give us a heads up to tell us that they wouldn't show up at the time that we agreed upon.
Now unfortunately my friends are busy, and we can't play on any of the next three days. This means that, to summarize.
1- They pick Thursday 10pm
2- We show up on Thursday 10pm
3- They don't show up, and give us a 1 hour notice
4- They win by default because we can't do any other time. At best, we get a tie.
Not only will we lose the game but we've also wasted our time. Some of you might say what's the big deal, I'm on the computer on Thursday nights anyway. But some of the guys I play with aren't. They take time away from their gf's and families and from other things that they would rather do. They wouldn't have showed up, had they known that they'd show up to an empty Counter-Strike server only to be reminded that Americans need not show up on scheduled time. Let's see us get a pass because we didn't realize we scheduled a match on Canada Day. What the fuck.
I would perhaps feel better about this if it had fallen on a thanksgiving day by default or if they had given us a heads up. But they selected the day and they didn't tell us they wouldn't show up... I think it's completely messed up. And this is because ESEA decided to give all those fucks a free pass. If I fuck up my scheduling, I lose.
 
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The company that used it's users computers to farm bitcoins is shitty? well I never...
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Bring it up to a mod? One hours notice for rescheduling + the fact that they wanted it scheduled for Thursday means a mod would likely settle it in your favour.
Also since you hate ESEA so, you could always try AltPug, Leetway or FaceIT?
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On November 29 2013 14:43 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Bring it up to a mod? One hours notice for rescheduling + the fact that they wanted it scheduled for Thursday means a mod would likely settle it in your favour.
Also since you hate ESEA so, you could always try AltPug, Leetway or FaceIT?
I did but I'm not optimistic.
A big shot admin guy said:
"Matches scheduled for tomorrow, and friday cannot result in a forfeit win, due to Thanksgiving. Teams are able to schedule around the holiday, and are given until Monday to complete the missed match."
As for the alternatives, I'm only familiar with AltPug and I'm pretty sure they don't do tournaments. Plus it takes forever to find pugs because nobody's on there most of the time. I'm not familiar with the other two, maybe they'd be worth looking into but the fact that I've never heard of them is probably not the greatest sign. I doubt that they offer what we want but I should look into it.
Edit: Oh I remember trying to play on leetway, for some reason my game crashed when its client tried to boot CSGO. (And no it's not of my hax)
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
Wow. That really sucks to hear. Sorry about the crappy situation you were put into. I hope it gets resolved in your favor :/
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Sounds like something that would happen if Nexon ever made a FPS.
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TLADT24920 Posts
that's rough and really unfair especially since they chose that day and wouldn't change it in the first place. Sounds like their system in regards to that needs a change. You should try the same on Canada Day and see what happens lol.
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On November 29 2013 15:46 ninazerg wrote:
Sounds like something that would happen if Nexon ever made a FPS.
You mean like this: cambat arms?
Apparently it's full of hackers and is completely p2w, although the last I heard of it was like 5 years ago.
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How come you don't do just normal matchmaking with CSGO? Is ESEA still better?
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On November 29 2013 17:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
How come you don't do just normal matchmaking with CSGO? Is ESEA still better?
Well, we used to have more time and used to play normal matchmaking, but now that we're busier, the guys basically show up to play the ESEA matches.
Valve matchmaking is good fun but it's not quite as exciting as playing in a tournament like we did when we were kids. Matchmaking is just a ladder. Also the valve servers are 64 tick rather than 128 tick, so shots don't register quite as well (allegedly, but I'm reasonably sure!). On the other hand, some ESEA servers have lag spikes which is surprising considering that we pay a fair bit of money for the service...
But yeah we're interested in the whole tournament thing. We get to play organized teams instead of pugs, and maybe it could help us to get better... That said, after this season, I'll be done with ESEA.
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I'm surprised that you're surprised that a company that secretly damages its own paying clients' computers is trash.
You made a deal with the devil, did you seriously expect to come out ahead? It's the nature of the game.
+ Show Spoiler +Obviously I'm not saying that ESEA is literally the devil, just using an analogy.
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On November 30 2013 01:41 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:I'm surprised that you're surprised that a company that secretly damages its own paying clients' computers is trash. You made a deal with the devil, did you seriously expect to come out ahead? It's the nature of the game. + Show Spoiler +Obviously I'm not saying that ESEA is literally the devil, just using an analogy.
Well, I'm not surprised, I'm pissed. I knew that ESEA could shit the bed again. Kind of hoped that they wouldn't.
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Seeing ESEA makes me glad I never got into CS competitive.
Only reason they're able to pull all this bullshit is because they don't have a single real competitor.
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On November 29 2013 17:13 Rollin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 15:46 ninazerg wrote:
Sounds like something that would happen if Nexon ever made a FPS. You mean like this: cambat arms? Apparently it's full of hackers and is completely p2w, although the last I heard of it was like 5 years ago.
no its true lol. Game is fun and enjoyable otherwise imo. I honestly like the feel of it more than other modern fps (I don't like feeling authentically clunky  )
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On November 30 2013 02:23 decemberscalm wrote:
Seeing ESEA makes me glad I never got into CS competitive.
Only reason they're able to pull all this bullshit is because they don't have a single real competitor.
Is FACEIT any good? I know their automated tournaments only reward points that redeem for specific items, but they have cups with prize-pools.
Also, I can't load the ESEA site for some reason >_>
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Northern Ireland27459 Posts
It's such a pain in the ass that even in this day and age that tournaments aren't better automated within the clients.
This is more a Bnet gripe, but literally do this:
Take the old integrated WC3 tournament system.
Fix it up with some of the third-party tournament sites that currently run the dailies/weekly.
Run tournaments entirely within the game client, that auto-sort matchmaking etc.
Only with specific problems/no-shows involve the admins, and give them some tools to fix.
It's RIDICULOUS that this isn't there yet, or at least hasn't been attempted.
As it is I await the true spiritual successor to the original Unreal Tournament to get my FPS multiplayer mojo back
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