• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:05
CET 18:05
KST 02:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros2[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win42025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros DreamHack Open 2013 revealed Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Schizophrenia of KOR-EN…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1537 users

You fat? List of Best Calorie Burning Activities - Page 4

Blogs > MarlieChurphy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 19 2013 13:49 GMT
#61
I simply wanted to argue the point that 'carbs are important'. If you wanted to live very low carb to 'basically none' (actually very hard to do, because basically everything has little amount of carbs) you could without issues. As long as the muscles have enough initiative to be sustained/build and the body has enough energy in form of protein and fat, you will sustain or build muscle while still losing fat.

Overall you are right that dieting should be based around calories and not around anything else. Lots of people I still say should cut out carbs/fats because its very high energy for little stuff. Minced meat 250g (mixed beef/pork) is 588kcal for example. 400g chickenbreast is 432kcal. So... you can eat a lot more if you eat low fat / high protein stuff instead of the other way around.

About paediatric epilepsy its just one example where you could use that diet and the person would be perfectly fine.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 16:26:42
October 19 2013 16:24 GMT
#62
cut carbs get healthy, more proteins powder, more refined sugar gogo ! (edit : just in case, im bullshitting.. dont pay attention)
http://twitch.tv/maggrig | @SC2ELVIS | http://www.facebook.com/sc2ELVIS
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 16:01:11
October 30 2013 15:59 GMT
#63
Naruto, came across this on reddit, thought you would be interested in reading: http://www.reddit.com/r/running/comments/1pivdw/running_on_an_empty_stomach/cd2snff?context=1

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll preface this by saying that metabolism is an extremely complex topic based on a large number of factors. As a former biologist and ultra-runner I still have only a surface deep grasp on the topic.

To answer your first question...A small amount (about 20%) of your body's glycogen is stored in your liver while a majority (about 80%) of your body's glycogen stores are inter-muscular. The amount of glycogen stored in your liver is highly variable throughout the day depending on activity levels, when and what you last ate, and time of day. If you wake up and go for a run without eating it is safe to assume that your liver glycogen stores are very depleted. However, inter-muscular glycogen stores are far less variable and far more plentiful than liver glycogen stores and will be your body's primary source of fuel for those early morning runs. On inter-muscular glycogen alone you can sustain hours (2+) of intense activity such as running before they are completely depleted. To say that glycogen stores are depleted because you haven't eaten in a while is a faulty assumption to begin with.

To offer you a comprehensive summary...our body is never burning only one source of fuel at a time, rather it operates on a continuum that is affected by a variety of factors. There are three major metabolic passageways through which our body supports activity (i.e. produces atp);phosphagen, glycolytic, and oxidative/aerobic. In the first, phosphate is broken down into atp, in the second glucose goes to atp without the presence of oxygen, and in the third glucose goes to atp in the presence of oxygen. During exercise all three systems are in use. However, as intensity decreases and duration increases the percentage of atp produced through aerobic metabolism increases. In addition to glycogen, fatty acids are also metabolized during exercise. During intense exercise (65%+ of VO2 max) a small amount (<50% of total energy metabolism) of free fatty acids are oxidized for energy while during less intense/endurance exercise a large amount (50-60%) of free fatty acids are oxidized for energy. Therefore, if you go for a long run it can be assumed that about half of your energy is coming from free fatty acids while the remainder comes from the metabolism of glycogen.

A higher percentage of fat oxidation at a given VO2 max is highly conducive to performance because it proportionally reduces the amount of glycogen being utilized to sustain activity. Athletes hit the wall because they are nearing the end of their (very finite) glycogen stores. When that happens, their only real option is to slow down in order to decrease the amount of (finite) glycogen and increase the amount of (nearly infinite) free fatty acids being utilized. It is possible to replenish glycogen stores throughout a race. However, at high intensities (marathon) it is impossible to replenish glycogen stores at the same rate they are being metabolized. It is possible through training and diet to increase the percentage of free fatty acid oxidized at a given VO2 max. This will have the effect of making your glycogen stores last longer. For example, a highly trained marathoner on a higher fat diet will burn free fatty acid for about 45% of his energy at 70% of his VO2 max while a fatty couch potato on a high sugar diet will burn fatty acid for only 20% of his energy at 70% of his VO2 max.

Muscle wasting/muscle metabolism is a negligible factor in exercise with the exception of extreme endurance efforts (ultra-endurance events). I believe that an endocrine response to training can explain the different body types/musculature in endurance athletes and power athletes. For example, a 100m runner trains with short, intense intervals involving fast twitch muscles at near maximal leading while maintaining an intensity near VO2 max. A large amount of HGH, Testosterone, and other anebolic hormones are produced as a result. A similar response is absent/muted while training at sub-maximal intensities (i.e. a long marathon paced run).

If you have any questions please comment and I will do my best to answer.

TL;DR: 1) You are not out of glycogen if you don't eat for a while. You still have plenty in your muscles. 2) Fatty acid metabolism as a percentage of total metabolism is directly proportional to duration of exercise and inversely proportional to intensity of exercise 3)Your body can metabolize up to 60% fatty acids 3) As a competitive athlete, a higher percentage of fatty acid metabolism at a given VO2 max is conducive to greater performance because Fatty acid = almost infinite/ glycogen = finite 4) Muscle wasting not significant to metabolism
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CrankTV Team League
13:00
Playoffs: Bo13
Team Liquid vs Team FalconLIVE!
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 380
ProTech74
UpATreeSC 70
MindelVK 22
Codebar 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Barracks 2756
Hyuk 2642
Leta 1900
Bisu 974
Jaedong 608
Shuttle 437
Hyun 94
Snow 55
Aegong 29
soO 28
[ Show more ]
JYJ20
JulyZerg 16
Shine 15
yabsab 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
HiyA 9
SilentControl 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4958
qojqva3857
Dendi1051
XcaliburYe135
capcasts21
Counter-Strike
fl0m867
ceh9301
allub204
oskar98
Other Games
FrodaN1269
Beastyqt1159
B2W.Neo918
Lowko290
crisheroes190
Hui .159
Liquid`VortiX140
Fuzer 116
mouzStarbuck104
KnowMe81
C9.Mang077
ArmadaUGS73
QueenE69
Trikslyr43
Dewaltoss24
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3081
• Ler80
League of Legends
• Nemesis5437
• TFBlade754
Other Games
• imaqtpie1208
• WagamamaTV301
• Shiphtur165
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 55m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
15h 55m
WardiTV Invitational
18h 55m
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
Epic.LAN
18h 55m
CrankTV Team League
19h 55m
BASILISK vs TBD
Epic.LAN
1d 18h
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 20h
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
2 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.