Maybe I missed this, but why exactly haven't you taken a Wal-Mart esk job? Is it a pride thing? Isn't making any amount of money better than making nothing?

I find that having a job, any job, usually positively impacts other areas of my life as well. When I'm not working, I feel depressed a lot of the time and a sense of hopelessness sort of sets in.

For whatever reason if you can't find work, I suggest doing something that gets you moving. Start something at home that gets your brain in gear and sweat on your brow. Learn a new skill, build some shelves or something, do anything that gets your juices flowing again.

guN-viCe

United States687 Posts

August 23 2013 04:33 GMT

#42

What's your degree? Did you intern in college?

Soap

Brazil1546 Posts

August 23 2013 05:21 GMT

#43

On August 23 2013 08:50 unkkz wrote:

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If you mean: be really good at what you do, have 15+ years worth of experience with a sick project resume(including an academy award project) and the connections that come with it - then why yes that would be awesome

Sadly i am not quite there yet.

I don't think anyone expects 15+ years worth of experience from a 26 year old. Of course if you just sat on your hands the government can't help other than to give you money, and that's preposterous over someone who is actually in physical distress like a drug addict. Otherwise, go around and sell yourself.

sam!zdat

United States5559 Posts

August 23 2013 05:24 GMT

#44

On August 23 2013 14:21 Soap wrote:
sell yourself.

I find it amusing that in an economic system predicated on the notion that "we are not slaves," one can go around saying things like "sell yourself" without a hint of irony... It's funny sometimes how things bubble up in our way of speaking :D

Soap

Brazil1546 Posts

August 23 2013 05:44 GMT

#45

On August 23 2013 14:24 sam!zdat wrote:

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A slave does not sell himself, he is sold by others. Big difference.

Actually we are very free to live off the land, but I guess that doesn't sound attractive versus the "economic system".

sam!zdat

United States5559 Posts

August 23 2013 05:54 GMT

#46

it's not unknown for people to sell themselves into slavery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_slavery. To be sure, most people are sold into slavery by their families.
i think there's a very real sense in which every person who takes out a student loan sells themselves into slavery. is an indentured servant different than a slave? it all sort of depends on what you mean by slavery. an Enlightenment contract theorist would not look upon an indebted wage earner as a slave, but Plato would have.

On August 23 2013 14:44 Soap wrote:
Actually we are very free to live off the land, but I guess that doesn't sound attractive versus the "economic system".

not really. there's always property tax, which sets a minimum bound to the amount of commodity value you have to produce with the land. it's not like this is back in the 19th century, when my great-great-great grandfather could drive a wagon out west with his cousins and get some free land to live on.

plus, this means largely dropping out of your society. Is it really fair to say that some social arrangement is just because one always has the option of voluntary ostracism, and that therefore one has made a choice? I think this is a liberal sophistry

edit: the point is, why should we go around talking about how we are "selling ourselves" like prostitutes, when we could go around thinking about how we can work productively for the common good in ways that are equitable, just, and appropriate to human dignity? a ridiculous idea, I know

edit: I know it's a grumpy old man thing but the words we use are important, they reveal things that we do not know that we know. just think about the ridiculous things we say... "human resources" good lord

TheWorldToCome

United States452 Posts

August 23 2013 10:51 GMT

#47

Ask how to get hired to do what they do all day.

SomethingWitty

Canada94 Posts

August 23 2013 13:03 GMT

#48

I really want to know your degree as I find it somewhat hard to believe that you can't find a job with a degree if it's at all realistic and if you're at all trying.

munchmunch

Canada789 Posts

August 23 2013 14:38 GMT

#49

On August 23 2013 03:07 unkkz wrote:

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Maybe i missunderstand you now but, what i meant is that since i am a normal individual i recieve no help. If i had been like a drug addict or something they might actually help me out with something meaning that the system is not for 'normal' people. But it was written in a more fit of anger so shouldn't be taken as serious thoughts but i do think if i was more of an actual wellfare client so to say, i would recieve more help.

Sounds similar to unemployment offices in NA... they're aimed at educating outsiders up to the point where they can, for example, write a resume/CV. (I use the word outsiders, cause I think it fits without being too insulting... I'm referring to people who have no experience with the system and really have no clue how to find a job).

Now it might seem really bad that the government spends all this money on these dregs of society who can't even write a resume, and none on helping people like you. But you have to think of the parable of the prodigal son. Sure, you can't find a job. But at least you are lucky enough to know how the system works... you can submit a resume and get rejected. The job centre is aimed at people who don't even know how to get rejected.

phiinix

United States1169 Posts

August 23 2013 18:19 GMT

#50

I know what you mean. A few months ago I went to a place my mother pushed me to go see because she heard on the news that they helped people find jobs out of college. The second I stepped into the place I knew it was going to be a waste of time.

"fill out these fields on this website so you can search for jobs on it"
"let me see your resume"
We then did a "mock" interview and she told me my interview skills could be a bit better. A bit better? No sh*t. It's hard to give a good interview when you're not applying for an actual job at an actual company.
"well it seems like you're ready to apply for jobs"
Duh, I've been working part time for almost a year now.
"So now you can search for jobs, and if you hear back you can contact us if you need help practicing interviews or writing a cover letter"
Not connected to an agency? Waste of time.

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