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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 11:42:41
August 20 2013 11:42 GMT
#21
Is a leashed baby socially accepted in the US?

Im pretty sure if you did it in my town you would get a police visit.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 12:06:16
August 20 2013 11:58 GMT
#22
On August 20 2013 20:42 LaNague wrote:
Is a leashed baby socially accepted in the US?

Im pretty sure if you did it in my town you would get a police visit.

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gets a police visit? Pretty sure noone here is talking about actual collar leashes.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 12:15:09
August 20 2013 12:13 GMT
#23
On August 20 2013 20:58 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:42 LaNague wrote:
Is a leashed baby socially accepted in the US?

Im pretty sure if you did it in my town you would get a police visit.

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gets a police visit? Pretty sure noone here is talking about actual collar leashes.


i have never seen anyone using this.
And maybe not a police visit, but if a police patrol would see it, im sure they would at least talk to child and ask if everything is ok.



Anyways, my point was that this isnt accepted at all where i live as people find it degrading.
I personally didnt even leash my dog, so i sure as hell would not leash my child :D
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 12:51:26
August 20 2013 12:50 GMT
#24
Lol @ all these responses from people who don't have kids of their own speaking with such conviction. My son absolutely hates being confined to a stroller, car seat, shopping cart seat, or even being held if he sees something he wants to play with/inspect/put-his-mouth-on/poke/prod/throwsomethingat/etc. Usually at stores we let him wander about the aisles and can spot him easily from his incessant giggles.

My son pees on my face sometimes, and feel soooooooo degraded (/sarcasm). Then i called the cops on him for public urination and loitering. We aren't really serious about the harness/leash (yet anyways) maybe when #2 comes along and the transition between 1 and 2 strollers.

For some reason my son doesn't like chocolate yet. Not sure why, he does eat blueberries non-stop though, so much that sometimes his poop is blue. Our current favorite form of distraction is a styrofoam cup. Absolutely loves that shit. Motions like he's drinking out of it, puts stuff he finds into it, then tries to drink that.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
August 20 2013 13:06 GMT
#25
On August 20 2013 21:13 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:58 Scarecrow wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:42 LaNague wrote:
Is a leashed baby socially accepted in the US?

Im pretty sure if you did it in my town you would get a police visit.

Wearing this + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
gets a police visit? Pretty sure noone here is talking about actual collar leashes.

And maybe not a police visit, but if a police patrol would see it, im sure they would at least talk to child and ask if everything is ok.

I can't imagine police trying to communicate with a 2/3 year old to ask if they're ok in front of the guardian/s. It must either be a very quiet town or, going by this thread, Germans have a real stigma with leashes. I also find it hard to believe police would be worried about a toddler wearing a teddy bear harness and yet be totally fine with one strapped into a stroller.
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Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
August 20 2013 13:45 GMT
#26
I've never seen anyone use a kid leash anywhere in Europe. Maybe it's a cultural thing but to me it looks like something that you might joke about but never seriously consider.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 20 2013 14:44 GMT
#27
Wow seriously, the leash hate rofl. Some people
Useless wet fish.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 20 2013 15:03 GMT
#28
isnt your kid half asian?? surely you could do something more drastic than a leash and ice cream!!
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hazdur
Profile Joined July 2012
United States19 Posts
August 20 2013 15:04 GMT
#29
My 2 cents as a parent:
Toddlers don't like strollers. You'd have to buckle the average 3 year old in, and yeah, that's worse than a leash.
Strollers mean no exercise. I see so many fat kids in strollers.

Our solution was to safety pin jingle bells to the cuffs of his pants. My son could run around, but we could hear if we went too far. Some parents buy shoes that have squeakers in them, but the bells are cheaper and work with any shoes.

Burrfoot, WaveofShadow, maybe consider bells?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 20 2013 15:09 GMT
#30
I don't think it's necessarily about hearing when they go, but controlling what they can and can't 'get into.'
If you take them into a china shop no bells are going to help you (not that I would, just an example ).
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hazdur
Profile Joined July 2012
United States19 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#31
On August 21 2013 00:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't think it's necessarily about hearing when they go, but controlling what they can and can't 'get into.'
If you take them into a china shop no bells are going to help you (not that I would, just an example ).

Okay, good point. I guess it depends on the kid. My son was a runner, so the bells worked for us. Now he's older, and will put things that we don't really want into the shopping cart when we're not looking, and yeah, it's a whole different game.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 15:51:41
August 20 2013 15:40 GMT
#32
It's always funny to see how parents will tell others "you don't have kids so you don't know and therefore I'm right and you're wrong". I'm sure it's tough and I can sympathize, but you're still making excuses when you say your kid's behavior is erratic and so you should put a leash on him like a dog. Discipline your kid like he's a human, it has been done before.

I love Capped's response. "Leash hate", rofl. It's not hatred of the leash, it's dislike of lazy parents who treat their kid like animals because they can't be bothered to find a humane solution to their problem. We have technology now which allows us to find things or people without ridiculing the kids.

And now obviously people will tell me that I don't get to judge because I don't have kids, so fine, I'll hide behind the opinion of essentially everyone I know, including my mother and my friends who have kids. My mother would be disgusted. All my friends would be disgusted. Nobody cares about that little argument that "parents can't be wrong because YOU don't have kids". Stop trying to justify your BS like that. I'm sure it's difficult tho but you're not that helpless, come on.
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5018 Posts
August 20 2013 16:13 GMT
#33
I will not say I am right for any reason.

I am a father of two as stated prior a 14year old and a 7 year old.

That said my wife and I have never used a leash (collared, or backpack version) on our kids. I think its horrible in my own opinion. Of course they are kids and want to run around, but as parents it is our job to teach children not to opt out for a easier "hands free" method (IMO). When my children became unruly, and they will, the things that worked for us is being fair and firm and not making any promises we were not going to keep. If they tried to leave us they were either made to hold our hand or when they were young the went into the grocery cart or stroller, or held hands. Kids are smart if you have rules and follow through with those rules, imagine this, they learn.

If you use them fine. It is your choice your life and your child's life. But to be quite honest, my first thought when seeing these things, no matter the parent and their ability's, I think less of you for it.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 20 2013 16:21 GMT
#34
A fair compromise: take a sharpie and write IF LOST RETURN TO BURFOOT (phonenumber) on his forehead
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 16:39:57
August 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#35
On August 21 2013 00:03 QuanticHawk wrote:
isnt your kid half asian?? surely you could do something more drastic than a leash and ice cream!!


Yep, half-asian or mexican! He's not yet a year and a half, but were saying he's 5 month old to help his baseball prospects.

But first I intend to bind him to the piano with violin bow string unt he performs at Carnegie Hall, then buy a child google glass with World of Warcraft app to farm gold for me while practicing piano and violin at the same time. Then I will go to forums around the net and admonish every parent for not having a kid in the 99.99999999th %ile. Silly Americans ADD doesn't exist, your kids are just dumb!

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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 20 2013 16:45 GMT
#36
yeah sure let him run around until he really gets lost or hurts himself. I dont think kids are as trauma sensitive as we like to think. If he is taken care of, fed, cleaned and loved he's not gonna be traumatized by a perfectly humane and handly leash.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
August 20 2013 18:35 GMT
#37
On August 21 2013 01:21 QuanticHawk wrote:
A fair compromise: take a sharpie and write IF LOST RETURN TO BURFOOT (phonenumber) on his forehead


Sounds pretty fool-proof to me
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 00:38:54
August 21 2013 00:33 GMT
#38
On August 21 2013 00:40 Djzapz wrote:
It's always funny to see how parents will tell others "you don't have kids so you don't know and therefore I'm right and you're wrong". I'm sure it's tough and I can sympathize, but you're still making excuses when you say your kid's behavior is erratic and so you should put a leash on him like a dog. Discipline your kid like he's a human, it has been done before.

I love Capped's response. "Leash hate", rofl. It's not hatred of the leash, it's dislike of lazy parents who treat their kid like animals because they can't be bothered to find a humane solution to their problem. We have technology now which allows us to find things or people without ridiculing the kids.

And now obviously people will tell me that I don't get to judge because I don't have kids, so fine, I'll hide behind the opinion of essentially everyone I know, including my mother and my friends who have kids. My mother would be disgusted. All my friends would be disgusted. Nobody cares about that little argument that "parents can't be wrong because YOU don't have kids". Stop trying to justify your BS like that. I'm sure it's difficult tho but you're not that helpless, come on.

You go on about how disgusting and BS it is yet how is is that different to strapping them in a pram, trolley or a high chair? Toddlers are often disciplined like an animal (lol @ inhumane) with treats for good behaviour, the equivalent of 'good dog/bad dog', boundaries, toilet training etc. We're all animals and toddlers are even more so. Having a transitional tool between strapping to prams/back and letting them go free-range seems pretty reasonable. As long as they are treated safely and are happy I don't see the issue (beyond a cultural stigma in the West). 'Disgusting' is beating your kid or locking them in a car. A tool that stops them from getting run-over/lost but gives them more freedom than a pram is suddenly horrible parenting for some subjective BS that the kid doesn't care about. In rock climbing you have a leash attached and wear a harness, because it's dangerous. When a 2 year old is with you alone and you're trying to shop/do shit in a busy environment it can also be dangerous (this blog is about 2 parents in a store and the kid getting lost). If you put it in perspective I don't see how it's harmful to the kid, or lazy. No toddler is going to be scarred by this, only judgemental folks who can't shake the dog image (even though they don't even look like a dog leash).
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 01:16:09
August 21 2013 00:47 GMT
#39
On August 21 2013 09:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:40 Djzapz wrote:
It's always funny to see how parents will tell others "you don't have kids so you don't know and therefore I'm right and you're wrong". I'm sure it's tough and I can sympathize, but you're still making excuses when you say your kid's behavior is erratic and so you should put a leash on him like a dog. Discipline your kid like he's a human, it has been done before.

I love Capped's response. "Leash hate", rofl. It's not hatred of the leash, it's dislike of lazy parents who treat their kid like animals because they can't be bothered to find a humane solution to their problem. We have technology now which allows us to find things or people without ridiculing the kids.

And now obviously people will tell me that I don't get to judge because I don't have kids, so fine, I'll hide behind the opinion of essentially everyone I know, including my mother and my friends who have kids. My mother would be disgusted. All my friends would be disgusted. Nobody cares about that little argument that "parents can't be wrong because YOU don't have kids". Stop trying to justify your BS like that. I'm sure it's difficult tho but you're not that helpless, come on.

You go on about how disgusting and BS it is yet how is is that different to strapping them in a pram, trolley or a high chair?

How is it not different? I just don't see the resemblance... If the kid is old enough you don't tie him in a stroller or whatever. I've never really seen that tbh anyway. Annoying kids are walking around at the supermarket, at the IKEA, at the grocery stores, that's fine.

Toddlers are often disciplined like an animal (lol @ inhumane) with treats for good behaviour, the equivalent of 'good dog/bad dog', boundaries, toilet training etc

Sure discipline is a thing and a kid leash is another. I'm pretty glad I've never seen a kid leash in my life because I'd feel bad for the poor thing. And that's the image people get when they see a kid leash, a poor thing, not a poor kid. Because he's at the end of a fucking leash.

As long as they are treated safely and are happy I don't see the issue (beyond a cultural stigma in the West). 'Disgusting' is beating your kid or locking them in a car. A tool that stops them from getting run-over/lost but gives them more freedom than a pram is suddenly horrible parenting for some subjective BS that the kid doesn't care about.

Nothing says freedom like getting tugged around.

In rock climbing you have a leash attached and wear a harness

lol... man...

No toddler is going to be scarred by this, only judgemental folks who can't shake the dog image (even though they don't even look like a dog leash).

They may not be scarred by this in particular. I'm thinking parents who have so little respect for their kid that they put him on a leash are probably more damaging to their child because of the fact that they clearly don't give all that much of a fuck about his dignity.

And the reason why it's a leash rather than some kind of device with wheels is probably because that probably would be even more trouble. If you can't be bothered about that, odds are you can't be bothered about much.



I liked the argument that the kid's not old enough to really care though. Kid's new enough to this world that it doesn't know it doesn't have any dignity when waddling around and trying to make sure his leash doesn't get tangled. I'm really glad my parents never had to teach me how not to tangle a leash.


Edit: OP banned me from his blog. Cheers.
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Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 01:09:19
August 21 2013 01:06 GMT
#40
On August 21 2013 01:21 QuanticHawk wrote:
A fair compromise: take a sharpie and write IF LOST RETURN TO BURFOOT (phonenumber) on his forehead


I actually have a "MADE IN CHINA" shirt to match his "MADE IN MEXICO" shirt, I'm pretty racist.
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