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On July 26 2013 00:14 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 00:09 Djzapz wrote:
I haven't even played FO1 and FO2 but I wasted 3-4 hours of my time on FO3 and had no fun whatsoever. I don't understand the appeal at all. I found it tedious after 30 minutes. I just can't help you. I love post-apocalyptical universe  True about FO3 and the other not really comparable But it's inevitable when you put the "Fallout" name in front of it
I liked the universe in most ways, but the gameplay just didn't do it for me. One of my complaints was the lack of ammunition early on. I did my best to try to plunder ammo wherever I could, but I never got any, and I found myself selling my crap through the incredibly clumsy UI in order to buy like 7 bullets from a vendor...
I'm told that later in the game, ammunition is all over the place and you'll never run out, but I was always struggling to find it. Perhaps I needed to explore more or something, but even though I liked the universe on paper, it's brown... so brown, and dull. Cool, but dull...
Anyway, getting a bit off topic now!
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the "ohh..."s were hilarious. I love CS, but I first started playing CS 1.5 and then later on 1.6. I wasn't around during the bunny hop days.
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I think you should just have stuck by the first part of the blog title, instead of making another list that sucks.
If you really want to compile a top list of anything, you need to let go of your personal bias and cultural influences of the kind of gaming communities you hang around.
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Threads like these always get a lot of responses, critiques and such, but I don't really have that for you. The only thing I don't get is not having warcraft III on there. The only thing close to a critique that I have is wondering about why it's not CIV4 on the list considering how much more beloved that one was.
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On July 26 2013 00:22 29 fps wrote:
the "ohh..."s were hilarious. I love CS, but I first started playing CS 1.5 and then later on 1.6. I wasn't around during the bunny hop days.
those were fun times to be fair with valve, during the betas there were also some serious wtf moments at random releases that broke the game for days or weeks. like the initial beta 4.0 which added defuse missions, but had some maps in it with no designated target zone: the bomb spots were labeled on the map, but the engine didn't force the rules correctly. so Ts could plant the bomb at their spawn point as soon as the round started. hilarious. i can't remember how long it took them to fix it, but it felt like an eternity.
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On July 26 2013 00:39 docvoc wrote:
Threads like these always get a lot of responses, critiques and such, but I don't really have that for you. The only thing I don't get is not having warcraft III on there. The only thing close to a critique that I have is wondering about why it's not CIV4 on the list considering how much more beloved that one was.
Judging Civ games is always a chore because which one you rate where depends a lot on how you're rating them. For example, I enjoyed Alpha Centauri a lot more than Civ 4 or 5 if we're judging just the base game, but the mods for Civ 4/5 are a step above everything else previously available in the genre.
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Any top ten video games list that doesn't feature Planescape: Torment or Baldur's Gate 1/2 or Deus Ex is a dubious list.
On July 25 2013 23:51 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 23:49 FFW_Rude wrote:On July 25 2013 23:38 Marchinko wrote:
Cleary you have never played The Witcher 2 or Fallout 3. Both epic games. But, like all list, each to his own. You say Fallout 3 but not the first two ? I don't want to see your list :p Yeah, FO1/2 is actually the far more egregious omission than FO3. FO3 would actually have trouble making my top 100, tbh. Even if I were to pick a Bethesda RPG, Morrowind, FO:NV, and Skyrim would be more likely to make my list than FO3, and I'm honestly not a big enough Bethesda fan to have more than 2-3 of their games in my top 100.
Fallout: New Vegas was designed by Obsidian. It was only published by Bethesda.
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No Deus Ex - your argument top ten list is invalid.
Even retarded PC Gamer got that right.
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On July 26 2013 00:56 Absentia wrote:
Fallout: New Vegas was designed by Obsidian. It was only published by Bethesda.
I know, I put it on that list of "Bethesda" games because by gameplay its directly comparable.
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best gam is pokemons ruby red version is really good my friend had the blue one he said it was good too you should put them on your list
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On July 26 2013 00:57 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 00:56 Absentia wrote:
Fallout: New Vegas was designed by Obsidian. It was only published by Bethesda. I know, I put it on that list of "Bethesda" games because by gameplay its directly comparable.
You can mesure the level of Bethesda in a game by the number of bugs in it :p
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On July 26 2013 00:43 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 00:39 docvoc wrote:
Threads like these always get a lot of responses, critiques and such, but I don't really have that for you. The only thing I don't get is not having warcraft III on there. The only thing close to a critique that I have is wondering about why it's not CIV4 on the list considering how much more beloved that one was. Judging Civ games is always a chore because which one you rate where depends a lot on how you're rating them. For example, I enjoyed Alpha Centauri a lot more than Civ 4 or 5 if we're judging just the base game, but the mods for Civ 4/5 are a step above everything else previously available in the genre.
i also said that i am somewhat critical of civ4, and that it would not be a popular opinion. for a lot of the longer running franchises, the first game that made the jump from 2d to 3d often looks poorer than the sprite based predecessor, while adding nothing new to the gameplay. in the early 2000s a lot of series made that leap, maybe because at a certain point of time it seemed like no publisher would approve a budget for a 2d game anymore.
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See, now I don't agree with that, because IMO Civ 3 was actually the low point of the Civ series (not saying much cuz the series was great all around, just that 3 was weaker than 2, 4, and AC). When Civ 4 game out it's most practical competition was Civ 2 and AC. As a title that jumped the series into 3d, it was successful, the question was always whether it was better than the "classic" Civ, Civ 2.
On July 26 2013 00:58 FFW_Rude wrote:
You can mesure the level of Bethesda in a game by the number of bugs in it :p
That's kind of funny in this context because Obsidian games are actually frequently quite buggy on release.
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Pretty good list. CS wouldn't be my first place but it would be in top 10. I feel the same way about it, started playing with beta 7 or something and stopped around 1.4 or 1.5 when the gameplay started getting slower and slower.
I discovered Wolfenstein: ET later and it was just perfect for me. Felt like early CS but a bit more strategic due to different classes and a lot faster due to the movement speed, strafejumping and more accurate guns.
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Call to Power 2= CIV 2?? Cause that game was awesome
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Yango, i can't put my finger on it right now, it's been too long since i touched civ 3 – but i somehow just enjoyed it more than 2 and 4.
On July 26 2013 01:05 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
Pretty good list. CS wouldn't be my first place but it would be in top 10. I feel the same way about it, started playing with beta 7 or something and stopped around 1.4 or 1.5 when the gameplay started getting slower and slower.
I discovered Wolfenstein: ET later and it was just perfect for me. Felt like early CS but a bit more strategic due to different classes and a lot faster due to the movement speed, strafejumping and more accurate guns.
i actually tried ET and found it to be quite fun, but call me hypercritical: i can't stand the color palette of WWII games. everything is either brown, grey or a swastika. i played urbanterror quite a lot after leaving cs though.
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No Baldur's gate, and mindless hack-n-slash games go top of your list, what kind of rubbish list is this...
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Baldur's Gate should make it into anyone's list, as well as deus ex and homm3.
Skyrim imo deserves a thought just cause they release their kits so the mod community can go nuts.
You should take a look at my modded skyrim before saying it's rubbish, gameplay hurdles have being ironed out by new tools(skyUI) and it looks incredibly gorgeous(powered by enb's).
Wc3Dota should make it as well, it's the father of all dota-like games and equivalent of dune and doom in importance.
And once again I'm stunned at how many of you are completely oblivious of the magical world of adventures.
Everyone reading this just make yourselves a favor and play The Longest Journey.
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Love how I mention Fallout 3 and it start a discussion, point proven....
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Civ 4 was VASTLY better than Civ 5.
Now i quit 5 before too many patches but the balance when I was done was in a state where the optimal stupid strategy was to have tons of size 1 and 2 cities. Civ 4's terrain had sooooooo much more flavor where resources were actually very good (+3-6 extra food/production/commerce) when improved as opposed to meh (2-3 extra as in Civ 5).
Happiness was a terrible idea to replace happiness and maintenance in Civ 4 which were perfect. Like look at Civ 5 with all the improvements that your cities can make (when I quit) and you discover your cities can only be like size 14 instead of like 36 which they have tiles for. Even then you are paying like 15-20 gold in maintenance and don't have any amazing improvements to offset it like the cottage system in civ 4.
Also the one unit per tile was a great idea, I loved it from a gameplay perspective, except:
1. Online combat against other humans became a speed of connection competition.
2. The AI couldn't deal with it.
Making the game essentially unplayable.
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