Dark Star (Update and Music Blog) - Page 2

On July 21 2013 07:04 Bumblebee wrote:
Great blog as always.

I thought for you fans, I'd share this that tree.hugger found. It puts things into perspective and I'd like to think with FLUFFs thoughts on how all the players have different styles and ideas, we're doing a good job at putting the thoughts together into a more similar vision and get as much out of everything as possible.

Team DK


NEXT.kz


Team Liquid

On July 21 2013 08:33 Bigtony wrote:
Who is Mig and why does he have a dope mansion? Nice blog.

On July 21 2013 08:39 Percutio wrote:
What's so stupid about it? I think it brilliantly shows the styles of three distinctive teams. I think it is very interesting that Liquid have such high all around stats, but then have even less tower damage than a team like DK which prefers a slow paced early game. I've noticed that a problem Liquid tends to have when they aren't overwhelming their enemy is they don't take objectives like other teams do. Too many times I've seen them win fights (Granted some of them are by razor thin margins) and not get a tower, Roshan, or even just a big ancient stack or aggressive wards from it. I wouldn't even go so far as to call it bad trades, just slow progress on map objectives.

I would love to know what context those graphs came from, as in how many games and which tournaments.

On July 21 2013 12:10 Liquid`FLUFF wrote:
It's not like that. I've explained in the past how drafts are meant to be a singular vision. One of the very first blogs after TI2 was about how "too many cooks spoil the broth". It's not a lack of dedication, rather focusing on someone's vision. A lot of teams in the scene do this, in fact. Their leaders draft and take very little input or only when they ask for it. It's an old model of how to draft and how to be a captain, but I've tried several other methods. My point is that, as a person, I tend to stress out and having extra help from TC is a great thing.

Not every player in every team is completely involved in the drafts, no matter how it may look. In my experience, I've seen teams who completely mute their teammates to shut out outside influences. Inversely, I've seen captains completely bend over to the will of their teammates and completely ruin their drafts. There is a sweet spot and it's all case-by-case dependent.

Percutio wrote:
What's so stupid about it? I think it brilliantly shows the styles of three distinctive teams. I think it is very interesting that Liquid have such high all around stats, but then have even less tower damage than a team like DK which prefers a slow paced early game. I've noticed that a problem Liquid tends to have when they aren't overwhelming their enemy is they don't take objectives like other teams do. Too many times I've seen them win fights (Granted some of them are by razor thin margins) and not get a tower, Roshan, or even just a big ancient stack or aggressive wards from it. I wouldn't even go so far as to call it bad trades, just slow progress on map objectives.

I would love to know what context those graphs came from, as in how many games and which tournaments.

On July 21 2013 11:36 Bumblebee wrote:

It's all the games in Datdota's database afaik

On July 21 2013 12:47 tree.hugger wrote:
Graphs are from the absolutely phenomenal Datdota: http://www.datdota.com/

Korok is aggressive and unrelenting in pressure. He also believes in synergy and a symphony of spells to shut down the enemy team.

TC is a conservative who would prefer to take the farm game. He believes in logic, statistics and has a scientific approach to Dota.

I am an impulsive and romantic player. I believe in extremity, execution and chaos.

On July 21 2013 12:41 Kipsate wrote:
XBOCT and Dendi afk during drafts too if i'm not mistaken, not sure about Funn1k. I believe Kuroky does pay a lot of attention and ofcourse Puppey does the entire draft.