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Pre-DHS Blog, Patch Notes, Giveaway #1 - Page 2

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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
June 13 2013 08:18 GMT
#21
Good luck @DH!

Dunno what to think about the new patch yet, but I know one thing: Mirana needs a buff to improve her laning phase, +5 dmg or agi would do the trick. Pennant if you agree!
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 08:59:59
June 13 2013 08:40 GMT
#22
Good read.

I think running AA in a 2 position to farm a quick aghs would be an interesting play that I'd like to see tried out a few times. Having a 17 second up-time on the debuff is massive and if you pair this with a second global ult whether it is NP, zeus, silencer aghs or spectre, I think there will be a lot easy kills to be had. Of course this relies on the AA farming an aghs in decent time without holding back the team too much. I think the hero makes for a good 1v1 mid but of course with low hp (492 base), low strength gain (1.4 str per level), below average MS (295) and no escape, it becomes quite susceptible to any early gank. Either way, I think the hero is definitely very interesting now and worth exploring if it can be fit into a line-up.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Purupurupiko
Profile Joined June 2013
1 Post
June 13 2013 08:43 GMT
#23
I personally want to see more necrolyte, viper and pugna in compettive play.
Hope you guys win at DH

p.s. TL pennant pls <3


blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
June 13 2013 08:46 GMT
#24
Good little read. It's a lot of fun to watch pro dota atm, with new heroes being brought into the meta.

Hopefully the time difference wont affect you guys to much, and hopefully DHS can bring TL back to the dominating shape like pre-G1. Will cheer for TL as always! FIGHTING~

ps. get hotbid(or someone) to take a team photo, dota2 and sc2 players! That would be cool to see ^_^ (no need for pennant, already got it)
Liquid
taeyeon_sg
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore7 Posts
June 13 2013 09:06 GMT
#25
Great blog. Its nice and interesting to be able to understand and see things from a pros point of view. Keep the blogs comings. And i would love to have a Tl pennant:D
why so serious?
Korok
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
80 Posts
June 13 2013 09:09 GMT
#26
On June 13 2013 14:50 pyro19 wrote:
I would love to know why you guys aren't as Dominant right now as you were before Leaving for G1.
Is it that the other teams have Improved so much ? Or that your own level of Play isn't up to what it was Before?
Thanks for the Answer..And huskar is Fucking stupid after the Patch haha.

Would like a TL Pennant too :3 since I will be betting a lot of Items on your opponents so that you guys Ensure Victory (0% Betrate Yo..10 bets made in total.40 items lost :D).

Liquid Fighting !


Honestly it's a weird mix of things. I'm not completely sure of what the main reasons are myself but I have a good idea. I'd rather not talk about them though here until we're out of our rut so I know for sure what they are.

On June 13 2013 14:54 ItsPaul wrote:
I think Doom is worthy of a mention, as he was already seeing some picks at ti3 eastern qualifiers. Gl in DHS!!


Ah yes, I think Doom is very underrated. I know Alliance favors doom and it wouldn't surprise me to see other Western teams pick him up.

On June 13 2013 14:57 elt wrote:
Would you consider Pugna a viable/situational pick given everything he brings in terms of push, AoE and some team fight contribution? Or is it a matter of lanes?

Good luck at Dreamhack! Hope you guys can win it all. And a pennant would not go amiss =P


I don't think Pugna will be seeing any play in strategies unless he's used as a counter to heroes with high mana cost spells or in conjunction with a pushing strat.

On June 13 2013 14:59 Vaelone wrote:
Have fun at Dreamhack, if possible try to win some games while at it.

This has probably been discussed somewhere but whats up with TC playing mid recently and you on the carries, I preferred having him farming while you're diving&dying. If I see a QoP picked I kind a expect to see Korok QoP.

Already got my pennant!


Trying to win games is our first priority ;P. To be honest, I'm already missing the mid role just because of the heroes I play on middle. I feel like these hard carries like AM are very one dimensional and don't allow very much space to do anything but split farm and come to fight after farming for 20 minutes (bfury/manta).

On June 13 2013 15:11 Chimpalimp wrote:
I want a picture of you in a doctor's outfit with Bdiz.

What do you think would be needed to get Razor into "pickable" status? +20MS more?


Doctor outfit not possible, but Razor is already pickable. Teams just haven't given him a chance. Remember that with tree armor any hero can solo any hero. D:
Garfailed
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
June 13 2013 09:13 GMT
#27
I think its a great patch overall, however im not sure about the clockwerk change. I think his cogs change made him completely useless very late game, when everybody has bkb. And add that to the fact that you cant pick him vs lifestealer anymore, which was quite commen.

Great post korok!
Korok
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
80 Posts
June 13 2013 09:20 GMT
#28
On June 13 2013 16:13 Fornozo wrote:
Very nice read Korok!

However I would have appreciated you going a tad more in-depth about the item changes rather just just aknowledging that they happened. Maybe this is hard since you only have 1 week to play on this patch and if that is the case it's very understandable.


Regarding the patch, I think biggest nerf in this patch was the change to wisp spirits not giving vision as this heavily nerfs the wisp/ck combo as long as someone reacts in time. I agree that wisp as a hero might have needed a slight tweak but this was over doing it in my opinion. Perhaps only lowering the vision a little or lowering the relocate timer to 10seconds would be a better way to change the hero.

As you mentioned the open wounds nerf doesn't really affect naix in the laster stages of the game as most people buy phase drums/sny anyway, but it really hurts his agressive trilane potential as initiating with openwounds on anyone but a melee farmer is pretty much impossible now.

I cannot speak a lot about the other changes but a hero I really like that has gotten attention in this patch is naga siren. Teams like yourselves and EG have been using her as a mid solo to sometimes great effect and sometimes not so much. People like Felony from NAdota have been using her in agressive trilanes to great effect and this is something I think proteams should be trying out as well. I always thought of her as a very nice 2/3 position hero in an agressive trilane due to riptide but thought her basedamage was to low until this patch but with a 10second cooldown on riptide that makes up for it.


That's all I have to say about the patch I think, shoutout to IXDLO, corey, Rime, OTC aka wongstealer, and all the rest of you.

Good luck in dreamhack to you as well as everyone else and if you could convince Bdiz to play mirana ever on stream I'd be so grateful!


This reply doesn't give yours justice but I am severely time limited. Trilane naga is very strong and some teams we have scrimmed have run that. As far as items go none of them are gamebreaking but some are definitely more significant than others and I could've gone into that.

On June 13 2013 16:31 Wedde wrote:
How much are you gonna drink now that you are i Europe? Would love a pennant
And please do not let a swedish team win Dreamhack again.


If I do drink it'll be with Bdiz and Universe. They're both alcoholics so I'm sure I'll be dead by the end of the night.

On June 13 2013 17:04 Shaella wrote:
Good luck at dreamhack! But you don't think Quantic will make it through the group? I think they're better than Fnatic right now <3

Anyhow, i'm rootin for you guys at DHS (pennant would be nice ^_^)


That was one of my tough decisions. Quantic also runs very odd strategies that seem to work. I believe in Fnatic though! They were the kings of Dreamhack in HoN
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
June 13 2013 09:25 GMT
#29
Good luck in Sweden!

Watching people try to bottle crow post patch is pretty hilarious, especially if there's a good nature's prophet on your team.
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
June 13 2013 09:28 GMT
#30
Good luck at DHS, I hope you guys win!
RoxasNL
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands5 Posts
June 13 2013 09:32 GMT
#31
Great read Korok!

Ofcourse, i already have a pennant but great giveaway.

Liquid`HerO's ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) Biggest Fan!♥ LiquidDota ♥!!!
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
June 13 2013 09:33 GMT
#32
Hope you guys and the SC2 guys do well! Don*t need a pennant because I unfortunatly don*t have DOTA
Fatlord
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
June 13 2013 09:44 GMT
#33
keep goin, fighting!!!! Hope to see you guys in China sometime soon!!!
About the new patch, really like the way how B+P works now, and more options to be played at tournament since all the nerf and buff to the heroes
but i found that TL's team fight decision is still quite shaky, specially about the position. Always some here and there mistakes. Great to watch, but not always confident to see you guys winning as a spectator.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 10:04:19
June 13 2013 09:59 GMT
#34
Good luck korok! please get white girl wasted with hot bid and take pics
Also you should let him stream (he plays a pretty mean invoker or at least he thinks he does) and you coach him
No mention of quelling blade buff? was it pretty necessary?
Also, more 2nd position bashlord plz
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
June 13 2013 10:00 GMT
#35
Will you guys and the SC2 squad meet up any? There haven't been any announcements/teases yet, and I think that's a prime opportunity to help integrate/initiate the fans on either side.

Good luck though! I'll be watching as much as I can. Something's been off lately, and I'm pretty sure it's Dreamhack withdrawals.
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 10:48:12
June 13 2013 10:43 GMT
#36
On June 13 2013 18:33 oneill12 wrote:
I unfortunatly don*t have DOTA


I've seen you mention this before and it struck me as odd - it's super easy to get a key because many people who already play the game are swimming in invites to give away and there are key request topics on forums all over the internet. I got many of them, so just let me know if you want one.

OT: Good luck at Dreamhack Korok!
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
June 13 2013 12:08 GMT
#37
When reading about it I got pretty excited by the Aghanims added for Ancient Apparition but I wonder if anyone's ever going to have the time and space to farm one up on him in a competitive game. AA isn't exactly the hottest flash farmer out there. It feels obligatory to pick up a force staff or mek before even thinking about further item progression but I would love to see that 17 second ulti duration in action. Perhaps if the game goes on for very long he might pick it up if hex isn't a better option at that point. I saw Na'Vi run him mid to great effect the other day but the game ended as a ~15-20 minute stomp so there wasn't much item progression past the force staff core. Anyhow I'm hoping to see an aghs AA this DH and for a deep run from you guys of course, Liquid fighting! Would love to have a pennant btw ^^
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
June 13 2013 13:39 GMT
#38
Korok I'll do whatever it takes for you Grant and me to have a threesome for a Liquid pennant <3
Karma is a bitch
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 13 2013 14:15 GMT
#39
Good luck! Definitely looking forward to seeing you and the rest play. Also should be fun to see the blogs :>
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
MidgetExplosion
Profile Joined February 2013
United States137 Posts
June 13 2013 14:31 GMT
#40
Good luck, Korok! Am hoping that Liquid`Dota can get back to the shape I know you're capable of. Lately just seems like you guys aren't confident enough, seems you play much better when you know you'll stomp the other team!
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