• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:54
CEST 00:54
KST 07:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202552RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams7Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 672 users

The Core day 17&18: Breaks continue to suck

Blogs > EntropyFails
Post a Reply
EntropyFails
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
81 Posts
June 03 2013 09:47 GMT
#1
Hello Readers!

One thing about muscle memory is that while you are learning new skills, gaps in training weaken these fragile memories and set you back. Since I was only able to get 2 days of practice over the last week, I suffered a setback in my training.

One interesting thing is that my weakness is coming early game during large all-ins. As the games go later, I have a naturally better macro than almost all at my rank and my abiltiy to multitask several armies using TheCore hotkeys gives me a definite edge. But it is really frustrating to lose to a silly all-in due only to my failure to be as clean and sharp with my building placement and micro as I was with the original hotkey setup.

But I'm continuing to trailblaze away, happy that every time I play I feel real progress and I feel that I'm learning to command my army with real skill. Those moments give me hope that I'll get there eventually with the core. As for comments about me "giving up". I feel they are premature. I feel like the more time I spend with the core, the better my army command gets. Once I can macro and early game micro with TheCore the same as I could with my old hotkeys, I know that I'll be able to achieve higher rank than I would have been able to otherwise.

Thanks for reading!



*
Entropia
Profile Joined April 2010
France103 Posts
June 03 2013 11:03 GMT
#2
I don't fail!

Back on topic, can you tell me how many hours did you need to get back to your mechanics after switching to the core?
JDub
Profile Joined December 2010
United States976 Posts
June 03 2013 14:38 GMT
#3
It's interesting that you feel breaks hurt your training. I found that taking breaks was instrumental in learning TheCore. Sleeping on it for a day or two always made me feel much better when coming back to it.

@Entropia
Coming from a mid-Masters player, it took me about 2-3 months of playing ~10-15 hours per week to get back to my old skill level.
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
June 12 2013 18:11 GMT
#4
On June 03 2013 20:03 Entropia wrote:
I don't fail!

Back on topic, can you tell me how many hours did you need to get back to your mechanics after switching to the core?


There's different degrees of this, I'd say, but depending on your habits, I think 1 season could be a reasonable estimate.

In about 8 weeks and around 150 games of ladder and unranked play, my APM was about 15% faster than my peak the prior year (measured with GGTracker and old replays vs. new). This is after just coming off of a 9 month break from SC2. Now some of that could just be that I have been playing more games this year than last year. I'm certainly enjoying HotS a lot more.

Subjectively, I feel that my habits are much improved, e.g. using cameras, using several control groups for units.

However, The Core still doesn't feel instinctive to me yet. I touch-type and when I compare my use of the core to regular typing, it still feels like I have room to grow. I feel like I make more mistakes with the core than when I type regularly.

That last bit is pretty subjective, though. I'm making mistakes typing this very post, but I quickly correct them as I watch the mistakes happen. Its harder to see the mistakes as they happen in SC2, so perhaps mistakes are much less painful while touch-typing rather than when playing SC2. Therefore, perhaps I'm just naturally more critical/sensitive of my SC2 keyboard usage rather than my regular typing.

In short, its not quick or easy to switch to the core. However, if you plan on playing SC2 for a long time, I feel the switch is worth the initial pain and suffering.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 213
Nina 113
StarCraft: Brood War
Sexy 10
ivOry 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever863
League of Legends
Dendi1000
syndereN180
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1681
Stewie2K822
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken37
Other Games
summit1g10126
tarik_tv4288
FrodaN2849
C9.Mang0187
ViBE168
ToD44
PPMD38
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 84
• davetesta44
• musti20045 35
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 47
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade464
Other Games
• imaqtpie1573
• Shiphtur421
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
12h 6m
Serral vs Cure
Solar vs Classic
OSC
15h 6m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 11h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 15h
CSO Cup
1d 17h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 19h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.