since the release of starcraft 2, PvP has made me want to punch holes in walls. Yeah broodlord infestor sucked, yeah sometimes I fuck up vs ghosts with my templar but HOLY SHIT PVP IS FRUSTRATING. I admit its a little bit better for me in HOTS(not saying much I ended season 1 with a 40% winrate in pvp and bottomed out at 32%). I fool around with a few different openings but its just so obnoxious. I find myself playing against different builds every single game and I usually only win within the first 10-12 minutes. I'm like mid masters but in PvP I feel like I play like I'm in plat. I really just don't understand how to improve/consistently have a better chance of winning. I feel like I only win when my opponent fucks up because I like to stick with 2 gate DT(whatever artosis did on his stream) because whenever I try to do different builds I always lose. That is my rant, another ladder day ended, another bunch of free wins handed out PvP. I lose to 2 gates, 4 gates, weird voidray all ins and the likes, feels bad.

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

May 06 2013 02:15 GMT

IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT.

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Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

May 06 2013 02:42 GMT

Try and break the meta!

AnachronisticAnarchy

United States2957 Posts

May 06 2013 02:57 GMT

On May 06 2013 11:15 ninazerg wrote:
IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT.

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Ok I gotta admit that was a pretty good first reply.

Kommatiazo

United States579 Posts

May 06 2013 03:11 GMT

I know these feels far too well. They are my own feels too sometimes.

I used to cannon rush mineral lines on Daybreak in WoL PvP when I was hating it. Every few PvPs I'd get to hardcore cheese someone and it really helped relieve the stress of how fucking stupid it used to be for me. I hope you figure out a play style that gets you wins and lets you feel comfortable with the MU soon.

sob3k

United States7572 Posts

May 06 2013 03:12 GMT

whatever happened to voidray chargelot PvP?

Scarecrow

Korea (South)9174 Posts

May 06 2013 03:52 GMT

Cannon rush every 2 player map. It'll bring you peace of mind and a sense of progress as you master the art. It'll also end games faster so you can enjoy more of the less retarded mu's.

Lokk

Canada635 Posts

May 06 2013 03:59 GMT

sucks to me you

GTPGlitch

5061 Posts

May 06 2013 04:05 GMT

Gate core Gate stalker chrono to 5 stalkers->expand->robo+3rd gate np

StraTkSloth

United States181 Posts

May 06 2013 04:10 GMT

#10

4 gate, lol. But don't be obvious about it (take a 2nd gas and cancel it or something) or do anything like that. I did 4 gates in gm and it worked out well enough, lol

Balgrog

United States1221 Posts

May 06 2013 06:06 GMT

#11

I feel your pain. PvP made me change races, then I found out I prefer blink micro battles over ZvZ and came back, still frustrating but we shall prevail, for auir!

Surili

United Kingdom1141 Posts

May 06 2013 12:45 GMT

#12

Open 2gate phoenix into expo every game while scouting only for proxies, suddenly the game will be fun again. Focus on trying to never move the phoenix more than one screen length, but without letting them ever stop moving.

I used to be like you in PvP, hating the match up, now there is so much fun involved. Phoenix micro is fun and hard.

Ponchmeister

United States73 Posts

May 06 2013 19:24 GMT

#13

On May 06 2013 13:05 GTPGlitch wrote:
Gate core Gate stalker chrono to 5 stalkers->expand->robo+3rd gate np

I tried to do this a little bit after MC did a 1 stalker 2 sentry expand vs kespa hero and I could get safe expansions but in the macro game I feel so helpless and I don't really understand when to play reactive and when to take the game by the balls and do whatever I want and make him react. I have struggled with this mostly in PvP as opposed to the other 2 match ups. I feel like situations change drastically fast.

uh-oh

Hong Kong135 Posts

May 09 2013 13:45 GMT

#14

yeah totally

both my PvT and PvZ have >70% win rate but my PvP's like below 20% TT
On paper there seems to be so many things you can do, Void rays work, zealot archons work, blink stalkers work, even robo based stuff still kind of work, but every time I try out something new I just get killed by some random timings. Everything is so random and there's no clear goal for me. In PvZ at least i can say 'I need 2 carriers(yes I do special tactics) before 11 minutes to hold off hydra pressures', and in PvTs I can go 'If I don't have 2 carriers and 4 cannons(PvT too :D) ready the 10 minute timing will kill me'. In PvP theres no clear bench mark thats generally safe vs most builds. I've lost to literally everything, 4 gates, DT rushes, zealot archon timings, zealot void ray timings, blink stalker msc......It's soooo frustrating TT

For an end game composition I want to get up a stalker archon void ray force, and I'm waiting for day9 to do a PvP daily that I can steal builds from...