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Why say GLHF?

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Cheekything
Profile Joined February 2013
United Kingdom10 Posts
March 18 2013 01:42 GMT
#1
So for a few years now this has always bothered me, why do we say it when it's lost it's meaning and should we say it anymore.

GLHF or HFGL if you have never seen it means "Have Fun Good Luck" which used to be a polite greeting to your opponent in the beginning of internet gaming.

In more modern times the gaming scene has become well more open to things like this.

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I'm sure you've all met him/her the internet badass 12 year old who has no respect for anyone and has probably had sex with your mother.

At the same time the meaning and respect between players has broken down and GLHF has become a reason for people to rage at someone who doesn't say it back to them.

I admit I normal don't say it and I also tend to have my status set to busy so I don't see the messages till I'm back in the lobby for long enough to notice them.

However with HOTS I had myself on online and well after a bad 1v1 game where I gave up pretty quickly to a 1 base all in the guy instantly rage messaged me to tell me what a terrible player I am because I didn't say it back to him

Now since it was meant to be a greeting to show respect would it not be reasonable to create a new greeting that isn't lost to abbreviation or used for people to flame others for not using.

So why do you guys do if you don't say it and what would you suggest to be a better greeting?

Personally I just like saying hi or dancing my workers about in amusing aways when I scout their base as well it's fun.
Never Knows Best
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 01:49:29
March 18 2013 01:44 GMT
#2
So, you made a thread about 1 dude who messaged you after a game?

Anyway, its just a greeting.
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
March 18 2013 01:46 GMT
#3
I do it and try to converse with the player since it makes me more likely to recognize the fact that it was their skill and not imbalance
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
March 18 2013 01:46 GMT
#4
Great thread. I think this might make it two the second page!
It's a habit many of us have, and should continue.
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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
March 18 2013 01:47 GMT
#5
Saying GLHF is the equivalent of offering your hand for a handshake before a competition. You do not always have to shake hands, but if one person puts his hand out and your ignore/reject him you are an asshole.

So basically your an ass.
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skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
March 18 2013 01:47 GMT
#6
Because its good mannered and i prefer that to 12 year olds on CoD.
DarkInfinity
Profile Joined July 2011
121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 01:49:22
March 18 2013 01:48 GMT
#7
It has become a sign of good manner, that should be enough. It's a few characters and it shows that you are willing to lose a few actions that don't matter to acknowledge that your opponent is an actual person with thoughts and feelings, and not saying it implies the opposite, even if you are well meaning.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!
Inferno272
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
March 18 2013 01:50 GMT
#8
I think it's a nice gesture that you don't necessarily have to say, but if your opponent says it why not return it. If someone rages at you for not saying it they are dumb and just ignore them.
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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
March 18 2013 01:51 GMT
#9
you don't have to, but its just standard gesture.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 18 2013 01:52 GMT
#10
moved to blogs
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regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
March 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#11
glhfggdd
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
March 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#12
It doesn't bother me when they say it to me because I just type glgl back or something. It really pisses me off when they initiate glhf then by the end of a game they say how bad I am and how I suck despite me winning the game (I never cheese or proxy rush).
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
March 18 2013 02:04 GMT
#13
To show your intentions. If you do not want your opponent to have "good luck" and "have fun", then why say it? I tell my opponent "have fun" every game because that is what I want, for both him and me. I would never say "glhf" because that would imply that I wanted him to have good luck. Luck has no relation to skill, it is merely coincidence. It actually makes skill less significant. The less skill there is in the game, the less I personally enjoy the game.

Saying stuff like that also makes the game much less serious. There is no point in taking a game played for enjoyment to be taken seriously. That is usually counter-productive. I like my games competitive, but not serious. Ya know?
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
March 18 2013 02:21 GMT
#14
i usually respond with whatever my opponent greets me with but if they say "gl sir" or something like that i get fucking pissed for some reason.
and my axe
SongMeister
Profile Joined May 2012
United States20 Posts
March 18 2013 02:23 GMT
#15
^^ exactly my thoughts
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
March 18 2013 02:55 GMT
#16
I always say glhf or hi or greetings and i expect the same from my opponent otherwise it just feels like i'm playing against something faceless and fake as if i was playing vs the A.I.

Also i always say gg or wp at the end no matter what(even if i am really mad).
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 18 2013 03:15 GMT
#17
I only say "Have fun" because I can only hope they will have fun dying.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 18 2013 03:20 GMT
#18
why not say it.

I do sometimes prefer not to return the glhf when I'm in a shitty mood or just don't want to type anything, in which case some people think I'm hella bm. F those guys.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
March 18 2013 03:32 GMT
#19
lo3
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yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
March 18 2013 04:12 GMT
#20
I'd rather look at SC2 as a sort of gentleman's sport such as tennis or golf instead of something rowdy like baseball or American football. I think saying glhf and gg are part of keeping it that way and showing a mannered environment, even if it isn't meant. I guess my thoughts on it kind of also tie in with my beliefs from the thread about people booing in SC2, there is a certain type of conduct I would like to see in SC2 and I try my best to stick to that, and I am happy when others do too.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
March 18 2013 05:14 GMT
#21
Why do you fucking say hello to someone on the street when they say hello and wave at you? Are you really debating the merit of greeting somebody when you join a game with them?
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Cheekything
Profile Joined February 2013
United Kingdom10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 09:39:21
March 18 2013 09:37 GMT
#22
On March 18 2013 14:14 -Kaiser- wrote:
Why do you fucking say hello to someone on the street when they say hello and wave at you? Are you really debating the merit of greeting somebody when you join a game with them?


Do you do this for everyone you see when you walk down the street?

My point was ask has it lost it's meaning because we do just say it to everyone and if it has what could it be changed to to regain it's meaning.

I'm all for greeting people in games but I don't feel people should flame for it because you don't do it.
Never Knows Best
Persh
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia108 Posts
March 18 2013 21:01 GMT
#23
You can't invent a new one because even if it'd become popular, it would still become the new "glhf". Besides, why not put something like a smiley, for example "hi, gl hf! " or engage in some small conversation where you ask where he comes from etc.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6051 Posts
March 18 2013 23:01 GMT
#24
I totally disagree with the premise that because we say something a lot or all the time that it losses meaning. If you personally don't mean it, then don't say it. I always say "gl hf" because I mean it, I almost always say gg (even if I loose to some random cheese) the only times I don't is when I'm too frustrated by my own play to feel like it was a good game.

I work a job that involves a lot of interactions with people in a drive-through and I was once asked by a co-worker why I always say "have a good day" when I don't mean it. I gave them an odd look and calmly told them that I do always mean it, if someone is super rude or w/e to me then I don't say it. Same thing goes for saying 'Good Morning' or 'Hows it going?' The only way these phrases lose meaning is when people say them and they don't mean it, it's not the phrase itself.

In other words personalize and own it, if you wanna come up with something you like better than glhf, do it. There's no reason to worry about what other people think in regards to a greeting like that. If someone rages at you for not saying "glhf" then that's their issue for getting butthurt over nothing.
I can take that responsibility.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 19 2013 01:55 GMT
#25
I think I played you, what league are you in?
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
nappiiboii
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States27 Posts
March 19 2013 02:26 GMT
#26
glhf
:D
♥
how i say hi to everyone i play with. i usually end up teaching them that holding alt and hitting 3 on num pad makes the ♥ too. its actually really fun to type this really fast and not mess up, idk y
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 19 2013 10:34 GMT
#27
I typically don't say glhf at the start or a game, or gg at the end, and I don't think that's bad mannered.

It's a few letters that don't mean anything to me, so I don't see the point.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 19 2013 13:41 GMT
#28
I never use "gl" but I do "hf" in every game I'm in. Why wishing luck to opponent? No way, we can all have fun but LUCK BELONGS TO ME.

thxbie
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Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
March 19 2013 15:04 GMT
#29
When I play a 1v1 game against a person I don't want him to get lucky as this amounts to my own unluck which I certainly don't wish to have. Unless he is a particularly gracious loser I also don't want him to have fun since that usually means you are stopming someone hardcore. In light of all this I believe GLHF to be a hypocritical and rude gesture.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 19 2013 15:13 GMT
#30
It's just the same thing as saying "hi" in starcraft for me. Just something that seems polite.
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ihOpe
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
192 Posts
March 19 2013 15:51 GMT
#31
well i wish people "good luck" and i also want them to "have fun" while playing the game. Thats why i do it anyways
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