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EsX_Raptor
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
It is either bad notation, or correct and meant to be played in C...or...what instrument is this for? You have to remember that notation gives you the fingering, not necessarily the exact note played...if your instrument is in a different tune (such as an Eflat clarinet) you would finger a C, but be playing an Eflat, if that makes sense...unless it was transposed properly, but again, that often does not happen. Damn notation. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Josealtron
United States219 Posts
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On March 01 2013 13:26 EsX_Raptor wrote: I apologize; what I meant to say was that the note right above the highlighted one, E, is played as an E flat when there is no flat symbol preceding it. That is what is confusing me. Because of the key signature at the beginning of the piece, the 3 flat signs. That indicates that all of those notes shall be played as flats in the piece. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths The key signature is there so that you don't have to write all of the flats and sharps when notating. Now, since the key signature is Eflat, that means that all Es, As, and Bs are flat in the piece as long as the key signature is still there. Now, the weird thing is that because let's say the E is flat, this means that if you want an E natural in the piece, it will be labeled as Esharp, meaning half-step higher than normal, and since normal is flat, sharp is natural. Also, once you see a sharp, flat, or natural sign in a measure (bar), it is always the same for the rest of that measure. I hope this helps some. If you need any more help with notation questions or theory stuff, feel free to PM me. Some quick tricks for key signatures: If they are flat, the second to last flat note in the signature tells you what major key you are in. If they are sharp, take a look at the last sharp note in the signature, if you raise it by a half step, you get the major key as well. (Gmaj signature has a single sharp on the F, therefore F#, add a half step, G.) | ||
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Josealtron
United States219 Posts
On March 01 2013 13:29 TheAmazombie wrote: Because of the key signature at the beginning of the piece, the 3 flat signs. That indicates that all of those notes shall be played as flats in the piece. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_signature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths The key signature is there so that you don't have to write all of the flats and sharps when notating. Now, since the key signature is Eflat, that means that all Es, As, and Bs are flat in the piece as long as the key signature is still there. Now, the weird thing is that because let's say the E is flat, this means that if you want an E natural in the piece, it will be labeled as Esharp, meaning half-step higher than normal, and since normal is flat, sharp is natural. Also, once you see a sharp, flat, or natural sign in a measure (bar), it is always the same for the rest of that measure. I hope this helps some. If you need any more help with notation questions or theory stuff, feel free to PM me. Some quick tricks for key signatures: If they are flat, the second to last flat note in the signature tells you what major key you are in. If they are sharp, take a look at the last sharp note in the signature, if you raise it by a half step, you get the major key as well. (Gmaj signature has a single sharp on the F, therefore F#, add a half step, G.) This part is not correct. If you want an E natural when there's an Eflat in the key signature, it will be notated with a natural sign preceding the note, not a sharp sign. An E natural will always be labeled as an E natural, either by the key signature or a natural sign preceding the note. E natural is a half step higher than E flat, but that does not mean that it will be labeled as E sharp. If you were to put a sharp sign in front of the E when the key has an E flat, it would become E sharp, not E natural. Everything else is true though. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On March 01 2013 13:40 Josealtron wrote: This part is not correct. If you want an E natural when there's an Eflat in the key signature, it will be notated with a natural sign preceding the note, not a sharp sign. An E natural will always be labeled as an E natural, either by the key signature or a natural sign preceding the note. E natural is a half step higher than E flat, but that does not mean that it will be labeled as E sharp. Everything else is true though. Weird...that is not what we were taught. We were taught that in notation a sharp symbol indicates half step higher from the key, as a flat symbol indicates a half step down from the key, and a natural indicates the natural note in the key you are in. Hmm...weird. Okay, cool. Luckily we don't run into it too often. Hehe. | ||
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surfinbird1
Germany999 Posts
On March 01 2013 13:42 TheAmazombie wrote: Weird...that is not what we were taught. We were taught that in notation a sharp symbol indicates half step higher from the key, as a flat symbol indicates a half step down from the key, and a natural indicates the natural note in the key you are in. Hmm...weird. Okay, cool. Luckily we don't run into it too often. Hehe. Josealtron is right, the natural sign negates everything, even the signs of the key you are in at the beginning of the piece. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On March 01 2013 15:06 surfinbird1 wrote: Josealtron is right, the natural sign negates everything, even the signs of the key you are in at the beginning of the piece. That is fine, no arguing from me, just I was taught differently, and now I am trying to figure out where that variation comes from. Sounds good. | ||
Serpest
United States603 Posts
Putting a flat in front of a note does not mean you play it one half step lower. That's completely incorrect. Putting a flat in front of a note means you play the original pitch but flat (i.e. if the note is G, and the key signature says you're in E major - which means you would normally play the G as a G sharp - then if there's a flat sign in front of the G you play the G flat. Otherwise you play the G sharp). It's really simple. Go to a digital keyboard and play around with the notes. Most newbie keyboards have displays where they show the note on the clef and whether it's sharp or flat. Multiple keys have different values depending on the clef as well as depending on which key you're in. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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sorrowptoss
Canada1431 Posts
Now, the weird thing is that because let's say the E is flat, this means that if you want an E natural in the piece, it will be labeled as Esharp, meaning half-step higher than normal, and since normal is flat, sharp is natural That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I'm pretty sure that usually, when you want to cancel out the key signature, you place an accidental in front of the desired note, not a sharp... Here's a neat picture courtesy of 10 seconds of google searching to clarify things: ![[image loading]](http://0.tqn.com/d/piano/1/0/i/G/-/-/accidentals_MUSIC.png) I hope this helps! | ||
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