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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 07 2013 12:07 GMT
#1
I don't know why or how but I guess it's finally happened, I've burned out on teamliquid.net. Prepare for disjointed and ultimately inconsequential rambling.

Even now I don't know exactly what it was that did it, is it the lack of interest in SC2 compared to BW? Is it personal dissatisfaction with the vocal community? Is it wash-over frustration with my personal life? Is it lack of a feeling of group comradery due to familiar faces also dropping out of the community? Is it finding that it's simply an inefficient allocation of my time? I honestly don't know.

I've been lurking around TL with out registering an account since the early 2000's, and only started posting initially in the BW section in 2010, contributing small articles / interview translations, hanging around BW LR threads, and occasionally posting in sensationalist general threads used to be one of my favorite past times when ever I'm online. Even now opening TL is one of the first things I do when I turn on my computer,

Some threads that I've made:
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TBLS FPVOD
BW Interviews
SC2 Code A interviews
SC2 Code S interviews
GSTL Interviews
Chinese "OSL" announcement
Chinese relations thread
Martyrdom blog
BW reminesnce thread
ABL FPL


Maybe I need a long break to reinvigorate my interest in esports (along with my tolerance for general threads), I really don't know, I would hate to leave projects unfinished, especially ones for the BW community now that we don't really have anyone to do updates for the Chinese community on TL, and especially when I've already done a couple of articles reminiscing about BW (which were one of the most fun I've had making threads). I was going to just request a perma ban but thought I would throw this blog up in case someone has a better idea.

I'm not a big name community figure or even a great contributor to TL, to where I'm not sure if my presence will even be missed. But I would definitely miss TL if I made the choice to leave it once and for all. It's quite sobering to think of all the hours that I've also invested on this site, seeing old faces either go inactive, get banned, or request perms, In any case I would appreciate it if anybody would like to specifically help take over making BW threads related to the Chinese community since that position seems largely unfilled right now and there is still some great community and tournaments going on.

Thanks for reading.

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"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 07 2013 12:23 GMT
#2
What do you mean by burn out exactly? It seems like you're referring to being tired of making the Chinese BW threads?
You don't have to post, you don't have to browse, but it seems like you feel like you have to?
Just take a break and lurk, maybe check out Reddit or something, browse those hidden depths of TL or something.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 07 2013 12:25 GMT
#3
There's no need to leave TL completely. If your activity dwindles then that's fine lots of people have a phase when they stop being super active on TL. Once day you may find a reason to post a lot here again.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
January 07 2013 12:27 GMT
#4
lol...

I remember when I felt like I was going to burn out towards the end of December, but a lot of factors played in to me feeling motivated again. Maybe that's what you need, a new found motivation factor. But if nothing like that exists right now, then you should take a break. Just go off and enjoy real life and check out TL every now and then.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 07 2013 12:27 GMT
#5
On January 07 2013 21:23 mizU wrote:
What do you mean by burn out exactly? It seems like you're referring to being tired of making the Chinese BW threads?
You don't have to post, you don't have to browse, but it seems like you feel like you have to?
Just take a break and lurk, maybe check out Reddit or something, browse those hidden depths of TL or something.


I dunno, just a general lack of excitement and interest, it makes me the sads.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 07 2013 13:55 GMT
#6
The moment I realized there will be no longer any professional broodwar it sucked out a lot of hype for team liquid . But I am still here although not that active as much as I want to be . Just glad there exist people like sonic and passionate fans for the game they love without them where would be right now.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 07 2013 14:00 GMT
#7
Your BW reminiscence series was super good, thank you for those :O
ॐ
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 07 2013 14:16 GMT
#8
you'll be back, they always come back.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 14:33:09
January 07 2013 14:33 GMT
#9
My posting has slowed way down since professional BW ended. Nowadays I mostly post in the LoL Subforum.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
January 07 2013 14:49 GMT
#10
I have hit this road block several times since the Hyrbid PL began. Sometimes the only thing keeping me here is my loyalty to several player (FBB <3). But with less and less Bisu it becomes harder. That's why I did things like try and push for FPL by making threads in hopes it would help keep me addicted. The weirdest thing now is how little I use the smallVod sc2 thread. If I miss matches I just look at results because the games didn't matter much to me. I also feel like I have an obligation to stay because the BW forums are still around. As long as people are saying BW isn't dead I can't bring myself to leave that community. I don't interact with bw much but I do watch vods and keep up with the foreign community. I'm more of a BW lurker at the moment. HoTS will definitely be a deciding factor of my amount of participation here in the future. Not sure what I'll do if Bisu retires to the military, he's a year younger then me and I feel like we've grown up together >
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
January 07 2013 15:16 GMT
#11
I felt the same way at one point. I just lowered my standards on what to expect and it became a whole lot more fun again.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
January 07 2013 15:34 GMT
#12
I get bored of this site too actually I have gotten bored of esports lately mainly because I watched so much that I got bored of the same story at tournaments. " Korean A beats Korean B in x tournament" it gets old. As for the site it's ok to not post it or even read it everyday. I don't check out to every day because you likely won't miss much. Besides our love of sc comes from playing, if you always watch you won't enjoy it as much. So play some sc and take a break from esports at the end of the day sc is a form of entertainment so look to have fun and a good time, no point in feeling bad if you get bored of the game,site,esports.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
January 07 2013 15:43 GMT
#13
I once burned out from TL also:

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ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 07 2013 16:22 GMT
#14
I know that feel man. I was hemorraging passion beginning in late summer of 2012, and for me the final straw was when Slayers disbanded. Took a month and a half off completely, only starting to get back. Still, after so many of favorite teams have disbanded, I'm nowhere as passionate as I was a year ago.

I can't say it's been all been bad. With less TL and SC2 in general, I've had more time for real life, and it's been pretty good for social life and career.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Fritts
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada63 Posts
January 07 2013 16:40 GMT
#15
I only come back for the girl blogs.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 07 2013 16:42 GMT
#16
Like most other BW fans here, my posts dropped significantly ever since the end of BW SPL - in hybrid SPL I tried to be interested but honestly couldn't keep up due to lack of interest. Now I still play FPL, but yeah...

Hopefully the girl blogs will pop up here and there to keep me interested.

[TLMS] REBOOT
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
January 07 2013 17:44 GMT
#17
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

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250 posts in a week...
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
January 07 2013 17:49 GMT
#18
On January 08 2013 02:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
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On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

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250 posts in a week...

You think that's bad?
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ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
January 07 2013 17:54 GMT
#19
Those highs look like Blindrawr's average.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
January 07 2013 18:49 GMT
#20
On January 07 2013 23:00 endy wrote:
Your BW reminiscence series was super good, thank you for those :O

Seconded. Hope you're staying for a long time.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
January 07 2013 19:56 GMT
#21
There will always be a place in the ABL Caihead. Can't offer my services for Chinese BW I'm afraid, but gl with your break.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
January 07 2013 20:07 GMT
#22
4000 to 5000 has probably taken me as long as 0 - 4000.
Lately I've been posting more but spending less and less time here, I guess I've honed my shitpost/oneliner sniping ability to its ultimate form.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
January 07 2013 20:08 GMT
#23
On January 08 2013 02:54 Game wrote:
Those highs look like Blindrawr's average.

lawl i was about to say xD

yeah im actually at a wall myself. i used to be posting like at least 15 times a day. now i can barely reach 5. i guess making LR threads during hybrid league helped with the 200+ per week when i still did that lol.

gl with your break! plz continue to run abl
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
January 07 2013 20:35 GMT
#24
You may not think you're a famous member of the community but I did notice that you haven't been posting in the BW section as much as you did before. Some of your stuff has been pretty useful and a good contribution to the community, but if you need to take a break or quit then so be it.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 07 2013 20:44 GMT
#25
On January 08 2013 02:49 micronesia wrote:
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On January 08 2013 02:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

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250 posts in a week...

You think that's bad?
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Torte de Lini probably puts that to shame
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 07 2013 20:50 GMT
#26
On January 08 2013 05:44 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 02:49 micronesia wrote:
On January 08 2013 02:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

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250 posts in a week...

You think that's bad?
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[image loading]

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Torte de Lini probably puts that to shame

konadora laughs at your pitiful attempts.
WriterXiao8~~
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 07 2013 20:52 GMT
#27
You'll be back. They always come back.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 21:52:19
January 07 2013 21:50 GMT
#28
My burn out: June 2012 to January 2013. Thought I wouldn't have the time to come back. Thought the people from way back then wouldn't be there anymore. Thought I wouldn't be able to connect anymore. Thought it wouldn't be the same. Thought it would be useless to come back.

Made a hesitant first post after months a few days ago and BOOOM -> TL hit me in the face.

Yeah, you'll be back!
✉ Tweets @sc2channel ⌦ Blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/JOJO ⌫ "Arbiterssss... build more arbiterssss." Click 'Profile' for awesome shiro art!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 22:05:13
January 07 2013 22:02 GMT
#29
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You don't need LR to have conversations.


I'm not a big name community figure or even a great contributor to TL, to where I'm not sure if my presence will even be missed. But I would definitely miss TL if I made the choice to leave it once and for all. It's quite sobering to think of all the hours that I've also invested on this site, seeing old faces either go inactive, get banned, or request perms, In any case I would appreciate it if anybody would like to specifically help take over making BW threads related to the Chinese community since that position seems largely unfilled right now and there is still some great community and tournaments going on.


Just do what you want man. we've all invested a lot of time in being where we want to be. If you less in touch than before, just do what you want to do.

I've hit my peak end of 2011 and now I'm just sailing til the end of university before I bow out.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
January 07 2013 23:48 GMT
#30
On January 08 2013 07:02 Torte de Lini wrote:
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You don't need LR to have conversations.

Show nested quote +

I'm not a big name community figure or even a great contributor to TL, to where I'm not sure if my presence will even be missed. But I would definitely miss TL if I made the choice to leave it once and for all. It's quite sobering to think of all the hours that I've also invested on this site, seeing old faces either go inactive, get banned, or request perms, In any case I would appreciate it if anybody would like to specifically help take over making BW threads related to the Chinese community since that position seems largely unfilled right now and there is still some great community and tournaments going on.


Just do what you want man. we've all invested a lot of time in being where we want to be. If you less in touch than before, just do what you want to do.

I've hit my peak end of 2011 and now I'm just sailing til the end of university before I bow out.

As in leave TL?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 08 2013 00:30 GMT
#31
How on earth do y'all get those fancy graphs?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
January 08 2013 00:31 GMT
#32
On January 08 2013 09:30 StarVe wrote:
How on earth do y'all get those fancy graphs?

I think you need staff access to get to that information. If you ask a mod nicely they might do it for you.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 08 2013 00:36 GMT
#33
Thanks guys, it's pretty encouraging just to see familiar faces leaving a comment here.

On January 08 2013 07:02 Torte de Lini wrote:

I've hit my peak end of 2011 and now I'm just sailing til the end of university before I bow out.


I would miss you too if you left this community.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 01:50:07
January 08 2013 01:48 GMT
#34
I don't post as much as I used to, but that's fine. Without professional BW, TL's just a different site than it was before, and so I logically spend less time on it. However, I post in other sections of the site, and there's always cool people to talk about and interesting subjects to discuss, so there's no real reason to leave. Just post when you feel like it, and whenever something really piques your interest, like TLS or SOSPA, then you get back into it!

Also, I do really appreciate your contributions to the Brood War section, and I've read every one of your reminiscence threads. Also, you beat my team 4-0 in the Fantasy StarCraft game! Don't leave the community before I get a chance at revenge!
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
January 08 2013 02:14 GMT
#35
One day i will hit a peak of that many in one week.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 08 2013 02:44 GMT
#36
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

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Wtf is this sorcery. Can I see mine? o.O
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24680 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 03:09:00
January 08 2013 03:08 GMT
#37
On January 08 2013 11:44 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

[image loading]

Wtf is this sorcery. Can I see mine? o.O


[image loading]

And no I'm not doing more lol
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 08 2013 03:11 GMT
#38
On January 08 2013 12:08 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 11:44 EtherealDeath wrote:
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

[image loading]

Wtf is this sorcery. Can I see mine? o.O


[image loading]

And no I'm not doing more lol

Reminds me of the Higgs Boson.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 08 2013 03:12 GMT
#39
On January 08 2013 05:50 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 05:44 Roe wrote:
On January 08 2013 02:49 micronesia wrote:
On January 08 2013 02:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On January 08 2013 00:43 micronesia wrote:
I once burned out from TL also:

[image loading]


250 posts in a week...

You think that's bad?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[image loading]




Torte de Lini probably puts that to shame

konadora laughs at your pitiful attempts.


its not fair, we agreed kona is so far beyond anyone that it doesn't count.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9619 Posts
January 08 2013 03:26 GMT
#40
Ive hardly ever been interested in SC, that's no reason to stop posting on TLnet.
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