EPTThe Flaw of the new Unranked mode - Page 2
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6794871228#14 This is a legitimate concern. We feel like putting them in the same matchmaker will reduce queue times. But if we start to see a large amount of aberant behavior (whatever it may be) we may have to rethink this decision. Thanks for the thread on this subject. | ||
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Azoryen
Portugal242 Posts
On December 24 2012 10:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Why can't we have unranked tied to your ranked MMR so it will stay constant if you do not play any ranked games, and then create a default starting MMR like in chess where you start with a default rating? The problem with that is players who will never play unranked; you can't update their unranked level for match making. I've played in many chess sites and it is as you say, you play unrated based on your actual rating. The funny thing is that unranked is actually rated, that's why instead of viewing it like just playing a few games that don't affect your rating (like in chess), I view it as almost an independent account with its own rating. Simply the unranked account is not in any league. For other purposes it's a fully functional account and I think Blizzard wants to offer that to people with massive ladder anxiety. | ||
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Hetz
196 Posts
On December 23 2012 16:57 Azoryen wrote: ...the main problem is the TIME you waste A lot of your games will be a total waste of time. If someone insta quits on you, you have just doubled your queue time, plus game loading time. He can also make you play for 10/15 minutes only to THEN drop the game, because he was just practicing a build or something. Or he could be on crushing mode and toy with you around for 20/25 minutes. People, please, SC2 will always be a waste of time. Be glad if this new feature makes you play less or even quit. THAT WILL REALLY SAVE YOU TIME!! You know why Blizzard added unranked games? Because of elite cocks like on this forum making people too anxious to play ladder. Mixing ranked and unranked in one pool is great imo. | ||
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On December 24 2012 03:02 Azoryen wrote: I just want to stress out that I'm not against Unranked play in general at all. I'm just saying that allowing Unranked to play vs Ranked will very likely have undesirable consequences. Why not separate ranked from unranked? There could be 2 MMR lists and 2 pools for the matchmaker. The only reason to mix them together is queue times, but I'm trying to alert for the even bigger time wasted in pointless games. Also, the entire point of unranked is to make players with ladder anxiety play more, so it's quite possible that the players pool will be a lot larger. Queue times may not increase at all if people like the Spyridon friends start playing a lot more games per day. It's true that there was incentive for casual players just wanting to have fun, but if you put the 2 pools together, this will hurt gaming experience for people taking it more seriously and ultimately those may be annoyed by too many silly games and quit playing... and there's nothing more damaging to queue times than people quiting...  I actually thought about this issue on first discovering how it works, but considering even unranked is still going to work with an MMR system, you will likely only run in to people playing "silly", quitting, or not taking the game seriously at lower ranks. Any silly actions like that would show in your rating. Sounds weird but think about it, you would have trouble keeping a high MMR if you weren't taking the game seriously, even in unranked. Also, if your playing ranked at a decently high league and happen to run in to a high ranked person who is not taking the game seriuosly, you'll probably be happy to be lucky enough to run in to the free MMR more than anything lol, not quitting =) But yeah, this problem will "mostly" solve itself the higher rank you get. | ||
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