• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:59
CEST 13:59
KST 20:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 227ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5257 users

A State of Meh - Page 2

Blogs > Froadac
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 13 2012 01:58 GMT
#21
On December 13 2012 09:41 Cambium wrote:
University is much less about the education than the experience itself, and I think you are seeking refuge in academia because of your lack of success in the social aspect of things. My advice to you would be to try to enjoy the university life; enjoy the freedom you have; enjoy the company of other young people. The feeling of superiority can be very damaging, and immature. Everyone has a unique perspective that they offer, and something you can learn from; discovering and respecting their differences will help you bond to these to new people.

With regards to your major, I can hardly imagine how you've established a disdain given that you've probably only taken a very limited number of foundation CS courses, which you probably are required to take for a lot of other majors. A typical CS program will offer two 'streams' of CS courses: theoretical and practical, and you don't get to take the interesting ones until your junior year. I'm not saying you should stick with CS, but you should at least make an effort to find out what it offers before deciding against it (something you should have done in high school, but it's never too late).

Thanks. I rationally know a lot of that but it's not what I feel.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
December 13 2012 04:21 GMT
#22
On December 13 2012 04:41 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 03:50 beetlelisk wrote:
I agree with Zaranth. It's sad too read that you are dissapointed, after the parent rage blogs I hoped college would mean new great life for you . At least you are away from those sociopathic fuckers (parents) and some people you met in clubs are cool but if that's not enough, definitely seek something new, don't waste your time waiting!

Are you in touch with your hs friends?

A bit. haha. I'm somewhat disappointed, but in positives my relationship with my parents has improved substantially now that they've realized I haven't blown anything up.

What were you supposed to blow up?
Lol I thought I mixed up sociopathy and psychopathy until I read they both mean the same on wikipedia
+ Show Spoiler +
The term sociopathy may be preferred by sociologists because it shares the prefix of their field. The term psychopathy may be preferred by psychologists for similar reasons.


Even though I'm happy to read that your relationship with them got better, and my first thought was
"could it be you can have normal relationship with them?"
I thought for a minute and concluded
"it looks good because you are not there with them so they can't blame you for every little shit AND use you as a punching bag when they want to vent in peaks of their disorder showing".
Please tell me if I'm wrong, that's what I remember from parent rage blogs, -_- what you wrote there about what they were doing still pisses me off.

And here comes question related to that, that I couldn't decide to ask: why did you write in one of your earlier blogs that there were things you were doing wrong in relationship with them? What was that supposed to be? Of course I will understand if you don't answer because you don't want to delve in that shit.
wwww
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 13 2012 04:35 GMT
#23
Eh, I think some of it was just at a certain point I got so angry I wouldn't fold on the little things.

And everything.
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
December 13 2012 05:05 GMT
#24
On December 13 2012 09:41 Cambium wrote:
University is much less about the education than the experience itself, and I think you are seeking refuge in academia because of your lack of success in the social aspect of things. My advice to you would be to try to enjoy the university life; enjoy the freedom you have; enjoy the company of other young people. The feeling of superiority can be very damaging, and immature. Everyone has a unique perspective that they offer, and something you can learn from; discovering and respecting their differences will help you bond to these to new people.

With regards to your major, I can hardly imagine how you've established a disdain given that you've probably only taken a very limited number of foundation CS courses, which you probably are required to take for a lot of other majors. A typical CS program will offer two 'streams' of CS courses: theoretical and practical, and you don't get to take the interesting ones until your junior year. I'm not saying you should stick with CS, but you should at least make an effort to find out what it offers before deciding against it (something you should have done in high school, but it's never too late).


I'm inclined to disagree here. I thoroughly enjoyed my data structures and intro to programming courses.

Of course - OS and algorithms are much cooler, but I didn't hate my classes the way the OP is describing.

I honestly think he just doesn't have a passion for the sciences. And that's fine. A lot of people default into CS because they think enjoying spending time on the computer will translate to enjoying CS. Programming and using a program are completely different things.

OP - did you visit UCSD before applying and going there?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 13 2012 05:07 GMT
#25
Yeah, I did.

And I knew that CS != computer stuff. I had some programming experience and never really liked it that much. What made me apply CS was probably implied familial pressure and income prospectives more than anything else.

My CS class is easy and uninspiring. I don't had the class. I just found the opinions within the department when going to club meetings advisory to be :/
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
December 13 2012 05:24 GMT
#26
On December 13 2012 14:07 Froadac wrote:
Yeah, I did.

And I knew that CS != computer stuff. I had some programming experience and never really liked it that much. What made me apply CS was probably implied familial pressure and income prospectives more than anything else.

My CS class is easy and uninspiring. I don't had the class. I just found the opinions within the department when going to club meetings advisory to be :/


How terrible your school's CS department and classes are is pretty much irrelevant to whether or not you enjoy CS. School is designed to be easy. You aren't going to find cutting edge projects and clever algorithms in CS courses, especially undergrad. You're going to find run-of-the-mill topics, problems, and logic.

Unless you're going to MIT, you're going to get a healthy mix of uninspired as well as very inspired students. It doesn't matter where you go.

Furthermore, I don't understand your mentality. You straightforwardly admit you don't like CS then talk about your school being bad almost as an excuse. I don't get it.

If you don't like CS, then it doesn't matter whether your school is good or bad. If you do like CS, then it doesn't matter whether your school is good or bad because you will enjoy it in spite of that.

"The grass is greener" on the other side indeed. Again, unless you go to MIT, undergraduate education is pretty much the same everywhere.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 13 2012 06:17 GMT
#27
It was the atmosphere of dept more than department itself. Objectively it is a very good department

Design to be easy: tell that to the upperclassmen

Yeah, you're obviously right.

My school is good for CS, I just disliked the mantra I heard from the department. I think in terms of quality of instruction it is very good.

And yes, obviously true.

And yes.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
December 13 2012 08:25 GMT
#28
Just curious, where do you go, donut? :o stalking reading some of your old posts, it seems like your a comp sci major or at least comp eng. Also I know you're just using MIT as an example, but there are plenty of colleges with fantastic cs programs that aren't t1 institutions, e.g. cmu, UoT, UCLA, udub, uni of texas austin, or UBC. CMU probably being the most outstanding one though. And yeah, I'm pretty sure upper div cs isn't that easy ...
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 13 2012 08:37 GMT
#29
At least according to friends I've talked to in industry UCSD CS > UCLA cs, although I'm not sure of the validity of that.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 08:50:45
December 13 2012 08:49 GMT
#30
Yeah, I guess SD and LA's CSE programs are more or less equivalent in education and job opportunities.

I was wondering about it so I googled it, and while I didn't necessarily get any concrete answers with regard to how the schools compare, I did stumble upon anecdotal criticism of SD*. Not to further push you into conflict over whether or not you'd like to stay at the school, but those guys' comments aren't unfamiliar to me. The idea of having so many separate colleges and the general La Jolla environment having this kind of separation and lack of bustling school spirit might be part of your issue with the campus culture. But the incredible trouble of changing schools... yeah... :/

*The link does seem to support the idea of SD having a nice CS program though
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 09:09:29
December 13 2012 09:09 GMT
#31
Yes. It feels very disjointed. That is a good way to put it. Almost a negative school spirit too.

but yeah, the cs program is great.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
December 13 2012 09:12 GMT
#32
On December 13 2012 14:07 Froadac wrote:
Yeah, I did.

And I knew that CS != computer stuff. I had some programming experience and never really liked it that much. What made me apply CS was probably implied familial pressure and income prospectives more than anything else.

My CS class is easy and uninspiring. I don't had the class. I just found the opinions within the department when going to club meetings advisory to be :/


This sucks. Having to study something you don't really like, and not knowing what you like. Have you ever created a program, just for yourself? Aren't there things that would be cool to program?
Abductedonut
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 09:39:42
December 13 2012 09:16 GMT
#33
On December 13 2012 17:25 Aerisky wrote:
Just curious, where do you go, donut? :o stalking reading some of your old posts, it seems like your a comp sci major or at least comp eng. Also I know you're just using MIT as an example, but there are plenty of colleges with fantastic cs programs that aren't t1 institutions, e.g. cmu, UoT, UCLA, udub, uni of texas austin, or UBC. CMU probably being the most outstanding one though. And yeah, I'm pretty sure upper div cs isn't that easy ...


I'm currently going to USC (Viterbi) and I'm in my final few semesters for undergrad.

While I absolutely adore my school and it's doing great in rankings (12th in the U.S. for engineering and we will keep climbing), I wish I would have applied to MIT (I probably would have got in). I was an idiot in HS. There's nothing wrong with these T2 schools. They are great. Hell, going to an engineering school at all is great accomplishment.

The reason I mention MIT is kinda of hard to understand if you're never been to the campus and spent any time there. MIT is, in my opinion, the best school for computer science because it's a school that's based around the hacker mentality. This isn't like stack-overflows kind of hacking. Hacking, before the media botched it, just meant having a superior knowledge and curiosity towards life (and thus, all subjects). The students at MIT don't compete with the school, they compete with each other.

That's what I've realized in the time I've spent at school. School is not just about getting an education, it's about setting yourself up in an atmosphere where learning is encouraged. That's what makes a school good. The students at MIT push each other really hard to be the best they can be. It's a school focused around math, physics, and the sciences in general. It's so hard to explain, but basically that hacker mentality at MIT is what makes the school amazing leagues beyond any other school.

Upper division CS at school barely scratches the surface of what CS has to offer. Hell, trying to get through "The Art of Computer Programming" is a lot harder than the CS classes I've taken!

*edit* In response to the interesting link posted above, USC and UCLA are gigantic rivals. Since we're both in LA and both schools are incredibly close in terms of academics (except we are currently destroying UCLA in engineering) you get a real sense of pride going to either school here. Trojans definitely have the better alumni, though.

*edit2* For reference, I'm a Computer Engineering and Computer Science (CECS) major at USC. Our Computer Science (CSCI) program is terrible. I don't know why anyone would pick that over CECS. Go figure. Probably why we're so high in computer engineering and not computer science...
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
December 13 2012 11:00 GMT
#34
Ah, gotcha. Hope you enjoy your final few semesters and learn a lot, in any event

Now I'm really curious though: how come you like MIT so much? :D Kind of interesting to see how you like it so much--I mean, what's wrong with Stanford or CMU or Harvard CS? I have nothing but respect for MIT and the culture there, but what about other schools lol Those unis are also right at the top, but do you consider the lack of that kind of passion (as much as the word is thrown around nowadays) for hacking, as you put it--the active pursuit of knowledge etc--the deciding difference? What differentiates those other institutions from the CS programs at t2 schools, then? But yeah, Trojan alumni are definitely amazing.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 15 2012 08:32 GMT
#35
At least finals are over. Going home. Iunno what will come of it but at least it's not quite os stressful anymore.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
December 15 2012 12:20 GMT
#36
Is there anything at home worth coming back?
wwww
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 15 2012 12:24 GMT
#37
they seem to have rationalized a bit (a lot)
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
December 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#38
We'll see... my hopes for that lasting longer aren't high though, good luck.
wwww
ForgottenMemory
Profile Joined March 2009
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 18:41:29
December 15 2012 18:22 GMT
#39
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CrankTV Team League
11:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
HSC 29: Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings SOOP197
CranKy Ducklings86
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 262
BRAT_OK 84
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 44176
firebathero 1206
Sea 1186
Jaedong 1129
Shuttle 899
BeSt 333
Soma 315
EffOrt 249
Stork 236
Mong 186
[ Show more ]
actioN 181
Mini 179
Snow 159
Light 159
Larva 156
Last 146
Zeus 136
ggaemo 96
Rush 79
Hyun 69
ZerO 59
Mind 48
JYJ 42
ToSsGirL 38
hero 36
GoRush 34
Sharp 32
NaDa 31
Sea.KH 30
Icarus 23
Bale 19
yabsab 19
Hm[arnc] 18
Sexy 16
IntoTheRainbow 16
Shine 15
sorry 14
Terrorterran 13
Barracks 10
NotJumperer 2
Dota 2
Gorgc6615
XaKoH 791
Dendi573
League of Legends
JimRising 341
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1248
markeloff108
edward58
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King60
Other Games
B2W.Neo315
DeMusliM194
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick18821
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1277
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 40
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV325
League of Legends
• Jankos1893
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 1m
Cure vs SKillous
Lambo vs goblin
Cham vs YoungYakov
ArT vs Harstem
Krystianer vs Iba
Replay Cast
12h 1m
Replay Cast
22h 1m
CrankTV Team League
23h 1m
OSC
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
RSL Revival
1d 21h
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 22h
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
2 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Heroes Pulsing #3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.