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Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
November 19 2012 19:26 GMT
#41
This is like those American Idol tryouts.
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 20:16 GMT
#42
On November 20 2012 04:26 Mothra wrote:
This is like those American Idol tryouts.


lol
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DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 21:10:19
November 19 2012 20:44 GMT
#43
http://www.twitch.tv/DragonflySC streaming SC2 practice, masters by HotS gogogogogogogogogogogo

EDIT: stream lagging a lot, have to go back to xsplit. may stream later.
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DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 21:33 GMT
#44
if you guys wanna help me out on a TvZ replay question:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383091
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KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
November 19 2012 21:55 GMT
#45
My good friend cEngyn may be someone who could potentially consider going pro and keep in mind everything he has accomplished is while taking an engineering degree at university. Even with the tournaments he has won, consistently being in top 50 GM and recently placing in loser's round 7 of MLG I would never recommend him to drop his engineering degree to try and become a pro gamer.

In pro gaming, at the grand majority of tournaments (Not including WCS finals where each player made atleast 2k) you get absolutely nothing even if you place in the top 16 or 32 aside from recognition. Im pretty sure suppy, the highest placing American in the last MLG, essentially received 0$ from his placement.

I would stay in school, and if you can hit high gm's while being successful in your courses, maybe consider progaming.
Doom Guy
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#46
On November 20 2012 06:55 KingDime wrote:
My good friend cEngyn may be someone who could potentially consider going pro and keep in mind everything he has accomplished is while taking an engineering degree at university. Even with the tournaments he has won, consistently being in top 50 GM and recently placing in loser's round 7 of MLG I would never recommend him to drop his engineering degree to try and become a pro gamer.

In pro gaming, at the grand majority of tournaments (Not including WCS finals where each player made atleast 2k) you get absolutely nothing even if you place in the top 16 or 32 aside from recognition. Im pretty sure suppy, the highest placing American in the last MLG, essentially received 0$ from his placement.

I would stay in school, and if you can hit high gm's while being successful in your courses, maybe consider progaming.


Okay thanks for the advice
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
November 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#47
Don't listen to anyone in this thread! You hit Diamond League, which is no joke. That's actually really, really good. You have great potential to be one of the best in the world, so if you quit college to pursue your dream, I would be behind you 1000%. I believe you have the motivation and drive to achieve your dream, so you need to go for it!

+ Show Spoiler +


FOR REALSIES

"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 22:22 GMT
#48
On November 20 2012 07:10 ninazerg wrote:
Don't listen to anyone in this thread! You hit Diamond League, which is no joke. That's actually really, really good. You have great potential to be one of the best in the world, so if you quit college to pursue your dream, I would be behind you 1000%. I believe you have the motivation and drive to achieve your dream, so you need to go for it!

+ Show Spoiler +


FOR REALSIES



I think I'll just get better while in college and see what happens afterward lol thanks though man.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
November 19 2012 22:43 GMT
#49
So you've played less than 10 games a week since the game launched, or about 15 if you started playing a year ago.
It doesn't seem that you're very passionate at all, I have friends that right now that study full-time, have a part time job, and still manage over 150 games a week playing in high masters-gm.

From my own experience, race doesn't really matter. I've been in high masters(diamond at launch) since day 1 as toss and when I decided to switch to T I pretty much lost a few games but was right on track again. If you practice correctly, on any level below pro, the mechanics carry over between the races, there is no "switch" to make, so just be sure to not overdo your "race practice" before you hit high masters and focus on your mechanics.

Also, you have to understand and use sc2ranks.com.

I cant really speak for US but here in EU its like this.

High masters EU players perspective:

Bronze-Diamond: I can't even tell the difference between these players, you get away with anything against these guys. You are here.

Low masters(rank 10000+ masters on sc2ranks): These people execute decent buildorders, but are generally pushovers.

Mid masters(rank 5000-10000): This is where you can start seing some nice executions of builds from time to time, but you can STILL generally do anything you want as long as its not 4 base on 1 gate.

Mid-high masters(rank 1000-5000): You'll find ok practice from these players and they are generally the one trying to improve to get into higher ranks, so you see much more solid play and generally well-executed openers and reactions and these players can take a game from anyone in the world.

High masters(rank 1-1000) & GM: The difference between these players and GM's is pretty much non-existant, remember that GM is top 200 from the first days of a season. You get good practice and if you can hold a 55%+ winrate here you'll be eligible for GM in the upcoming season as long as you try and stay in top 1000(lots of people are inactive but sit on huge mmrs here). Here is where you go beyond build orders and actual skill starts to matter, and you need to start practicing not only your mechanics but getting "that extra edge".

Pro players: You need to be able to treat mid-high masters like they treat bronze-diamonds. I dont even know what it takes to get here since Im still on the last step and will probably be forever since i play ~10 games a week. But if you cant reach high masters while holding something down fulltime, especially something as easy as college and a part-time job to support yourself, then its my opinion you have no chance.


Its one hell of a journey, and if you get to mid-high masters in one year I'll be might impressed, best of luck!
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#50
On November 20 2012 07:43 Nihilnovi wrote:
So you've played less than 10 games a week since the game launched, or about 15 if you started playing a year ago.
It doesn't seem that you're very passionate at all, I have friends that right now that study full-time, have a part time job, and still manage over 150 games a week playing in high masters-gm.

From my own experience, race doesn't really matter. I've been in high masters(diamond at launch) since day 1 as toss and when I decided to switch to T I pretty much lost a few games but was right on track again. If you practice correctly, on any level below pro, the mechanics carry over between the races, there is no "switch" to make, so just be sure to not overdo your "race practice" before you hit high masters and focus on your mechanics.

Also, you have to understand and use sc2ranks.com.

I cant really speak for US but here in EU its like this.

High masters EU players perspective:

Bronze-Diamond: I can't even tell the difference between these players, you get away with anything against these guys. You are here.

Low masters(rank 10000+ masters on sc2ranks): These people execute decent buildorders, but are generally pushovers.

Mid masters(rank 5000-10000): This is where you can start seing some nice executions of builds from time to time, but you can STILL generally do anything you want as long as its not 4 base on 1 gate.

Mid-high masters(rank 1000-5000): You'll find ok practice from these players and they are generally the one trying to improve to get into higher ranks, so you see much more solid play and generally well-executed openers and reactions and these players can take a game from anyone in the world.

High masters(rank 1-1000) & GM: The difference between these players and GM's is pretty much non-existant, remember that GM is top 200 from the first days of a season. You get good practice and if you can hold a 55%+ winrate here you'll be eligible for GM in the upcoming season as long as you try and stay in top 1000(lots of people are inactive but sit on huge mmrs here). Here is where you go beyond build orders and actual skill starts to matter, and you need to start practicing not only your mechanics but getting "that extra edge".

Pro players: You need to be able to treat mid-high masters like they treat bronze-diamonds. I dont even know what it takes to get here since Im still on the last step and will probably be forever since i play ~10 games a week. But if you cant reach high masters while holding something down fulltime, especially something as easy as college and a part-time job to support yourself, then its my opinion you have no chance.


Its one hell of a journey, and if you get to mid-high masters in one year I'll be might impressed, best of luck!


Thanks buddy

I really enjoy reading the perspectives. Hopefully I'll get master's soon to start that entire journey.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 20 2012 00:25 GMT
#51
can you guys let me know what you think of my stream quality wise etc?

i use webcam sometimes

http://www.twitch.tv/dragonflysc/b/341467269

my last game of my last broadcast today
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 00:28:49
November 20 2012 00:27 GMT
#52
On November 20 2012 07:22 DragonflySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 07:10 ninazerg wrote:
Don't listen to anyone in this thread! You hit Diamond League, which is no joke. That's actually really, really good. You have great potential to be one of the best in the world, so if you quit college to pursue your dream, I would be behind you 1000%. I believe you have the motivation and drive to achieve your dream, so you need to go for it!

+ Show Spoiler +


FOR REALSIES



I think I'll just get better while in college and see what happens afterward lol thanks though man.


Don't take that person seriously, I can gaurantee it nina is just messing around as nina is a huge sc2 hater, considering most posts I see are of hatred of sc2 and not one that it's even decent, just pure hatred ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#53
On November 20 2012 09:27 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 07:22 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 20 2012 07:10 ninazerg wrote:
Don't listen to anyone in this thread! You hit Diamond League, which is no joke. That's actually really, really good. You have great potential to be one of the best in the world, so if you quit college to pursue your dream, I would be behind you 1000%. I believe you have the motivation and drive to achieve your dream, so you need to go for it!

+ Show Spoiler +


FOR REALSIES



I think I'll just get better while in college and see what happens afterward lol thanks though man.


Don't take that person seriously, I can gaurantee it nina is just messing around as nina is a huge sc2 hater, considering most posts I see are of hatred of sc2 and not one that it's even decent, just pure hatred ^^.


yea i kind of pushed it aside lol
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
ABear
Profile Joined June 2006
United States161 Posts
November 20 2012 00:58 GMT
#54
Passion is overrated. Stick to your studies.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
November 20 2012 04:03 GMT
#55
On November 20 2012 09:27 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 07:22 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 20 2012 07:10 ninazerg wrote:
Don't listen to anyone in this thread! You hit Diamond League, which is no joke. That's actually really, really good. You have great potential to be one of the best in the world, so if you quit college to pursue your dream, I would be behind you 1000%. I believe you have the motivation and drive to achieve your dream, so you need to go for it!

+ Show Spoiler +


FOR REALSIES



I think I'll just get better while in college and see what happens afterward lol thanks though man.


Don't take that person seriously, I can gaurantee it nina is just messing around as nina is a huge sc2 hater, considering most posts I see are of hatred of sc2 and not one that it's even decent, just pure hatred ^^.

Good guy blade ^^

Btw DragonFly, glad to see that you're trying to accomplish your goal! You can make it to masters <3
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 20 2012 05:03 GMT
#56
On November 20 2012 13:03 Master of DalK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 09:27 blade55555 wrote:
On November 20 2012 07:22 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 20 2012 07:10 ninazerg wrote:
Don't listen to anyone in this thread! You hit Diamond League, which is no joke. That's actually really, really good. You have great potential to be one of the best in the world, so if you quit college to pursue your dream, I would be behind you 1000%. I believe you have the motivation and drive to achieve your dream, so you need to go for it!

+ Show Spoiler +


FOR REALSIES



I think I'll just get better while in college and see what happens afterward lol thanks though man.


Don't take that person seriously, I can gaurantee it nina is just messing around as nina is a huge sc2 hater, considering most posts I see are of hatred of sc2 and not one that it's even decent, just pure hatred ^^.

Good guy blade ^^

Btw DragonFly, glad to see that you're trying to accomplish your goal! You can make it to masters <3


Thanks bud

I'll post in here whenever I get promoted. I feel like masters by HotS release is an achievable thing. I'm starting to get back into the game slowly, playing 6-12 games a day right now because of school. Come tomorrow I can play much more since I have Thanksgiving break.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
November 20 2012 14:04 GMT
#57
there are ppl who dont enjoy playing all that much, therefore dont play a lot but happen to easily go into high master or even gm.

diamond while being passionate and wanting to become better?
get real man - your simply not talented -,-
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MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
November 20 2012 14:14 GMT
#58
No offense but there are people out there who play Starcraft less than 5 hours a week, don't watch vods and still manage to be quite comfortably mid masters. I don't know if this is the right choice for you.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32075 Posts
November 20 2012 16:21 GMT
#59
if you cant get to at least masters playing regularly with other responsibilites you suck and have no chance

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DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 20 2012 18:09 GMT
#60
On November 21 2012 01:21 QuanticHawk wrote:
if you cant get to at least masters playing regularly with other responsibilites you suck and have no chance

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I don't think you guys read edit posts lol.

I said I was going to stay in school and get masters by HotS release while playing in the free time I have.
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