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DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 03:45 GMT
#21
I'm shooting for Masters for before HotS comes out by the way.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 03:47 GMT
#22
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 03:56:32
November 19 2012 03:54 GMT
#23
Don't take a break from college, a whole year for something that's unproductive (and even if you do become a professional or part of a professional team, you'll be earning less than minimum wage a month).

There are plenty of people who are doing school and playing professionally such as Ostojiy and Suppy. They did not take a break from school and they didn't "drop everything" to give it a shot. It's all gradual and it all comes with putting what time you have towards getting better.

You're Diamond, whatever ladder games you're playing now is sufficient until you reach Masters. When you hit masters, try Playhem tournaments and other smaller tournaments that give out daily/weekly prizes. You'll be playing against some of the best both in EU, NA and Korea as all pros play there.

Come back here and tell us about your progress then. Teams like players with achievements, academies like those who have the ability to be amongst the best and have some minor achievements. If you have neither of those, you shouldn't try for it exclusively.

Believe me, I've managed several teams ranging from smaller groups to more professional teams and your sense of "professional training" is a bit off-field. Players practice, but there's a lot of individual training on ladder and analysis. Things you can do on your own.

Bottom-line is: don't be an idiot, keep going to school. If you like competition, you have the avenues to reach Masters or even GM.

seriously.

eing part of a respected team is what I want more than anything. I want the team enviornmentI felt in baseball, while performing on an individual level.


You won't get this on the vast majority of teams.

I want to take a break from college, perhaps only a year to give myself the respect of having at least a TRY at my goal. Otherwise I feel like I'm going to spend the rest of my life regretting not doing so.


You're gonna regret it if you do it.

If you think I'm shitting on you and trying to be your conscience, think again. You're not being realistic and you're not really rationalizing this out, you're just thinking out loud.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 03:57 GMT
#24
On November 19 2012 12:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
Don't take a break from college, a whole year for something that's unproductive (and even if you do become a professional or part of a professional team, you'll be earning less than minimum wage a month).

There are plenty of people who are doing school and playing professionally such as Ostojiy and Suppy. They did not take a break from school and they didn't "drop everything" to give it a shot. It's all gradual and it all comes with putting what time you have towards getting better.

You're Diamond, whatever ladder games you're playing now is sufficient until you reach Masters. When you hit masters, try Playhem tournaments and other smaller tournaments that give out daily/weekly prizes. You'll be playing against some of the best both in EU, NA and Korea as all pros play there.

Come back here and tell us about your progress then. Teams like players with achievements, academies like those who have the ability to be amongst the best and have some minor achievements. If you have neither of those, you shouldn't try for it exclusively.

Believe me, I've managed several teams ranging from smaller groups to more professional teams and your sense of "professional training" is a bit off-field. Players practice, but there's a lot of individual training on ladder and analysis. Things you can do on your own.

Bottom-line is: don't be an idiot, keep going to school. If you like competition, you have the avenues to reach Masters or even GM.

seriously.

Show nested quote +
eing part of a respected team is what I want more than anything. I want the team enviornmentI felt in baseball, while performing on an individual level.


You won't get this on the vast majority of teams.

Show nested quote +
I want to take a break from college, perhaps only a year to give myself the respect of having at least a TRY at my goal. Otherwise I feel like I'm going to spend the rest of my life regretting not doing so.


You're gonna regret it if you do it.

If you think I'm shitting on you and trying to be your conscience, think again. You're not being realistic and you're not really rationalizing this out, you're just thinking out loud.



Got it.

Time to work hard and get promoted.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
November 19 2012 03:58 GMT
#25
In regards to quitting college, it's not the worst thing in the world to take a year off. Probably the best thing you can do is start applying for jobs. If you get a part-time job at a restaurant or coffee shop or something then you can afford to play SC2 with the rest of your time. Wannabe novelists, actors, etc. do this, so no reason why aspiring progamers can't do the same. Plus, having a part-time job can really help when you go back to college. Of course it's not a great idea for people who know exactly what they want to do and can focus on their studies, but if you want to explore your options it gives you some money to work with.
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 03:59 GMT
#26
Thanks everyone for the responses.

I probably won't be considering the college hiatus idea much because my family really wants me to finish within the 4 year time period for my Software Engineering degree.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4397 Posts
November 19 2012 04:04 GMT
#27
OP wants to quit college to play video games? Think McFly think!
Seriously dude the way SC2 proscene is going it will be dead in a year, just keep doing college and play games as a hobby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
November 19 2012 04:23 GMT
#28
I've been a high master player for quite a while now, and I've had no such luck. Good luck though, it's a lot harder than you think.


I would do anything to be a pro but it's so incredibly hard to stay motivated after years of no luck.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 19 2012 04:24 GMT
#29
On November 19 2012 13:04 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
OP wants to quit college to play video games? Think McFly think!
Seriously dude the way SC2 proscene is going it will be dead in a year, just keep doing college and play games as a hobby.


the sc2 proscene won't be dead in a year, I could bet you anything it won't be lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 04:26 GMT
#30
On November 19 2012 13:23 Glurkenspurk wrote:
I've been a high master player for quite a while now, and I've had no such luck. Good luck though, it's a lot harder than you think.


I would do anything to be a pro but it's so incredibly hard to stay motivated after years of no luck.


Thanks for the GL.

I know what you mean about the motivation part, I hit a bit of a wall after I first reached Diamond but I started climbing again.

Good luck man, fight for your dreams if you want to!
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
November 19 2012 05:20 GMT
#31
just play in tournaments and do well. that's really all it takes. Make friends on teams or at least notoriety by beating well known players in events. Stream consistently to attract fans and perform consistently. It's possible to do a lot while still in school - there are a number of players who did or currently are in school while progaming.

glhf
ProgamerDesigner of Aeon's End
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 05:29:04
November 19 2012 05:25 GMT
#32
On November 19 2012 14:20 qxc wrote:
just play in tournaments and do well. that's really all it takes. Make friends on teams or at least notoriety by beating well known players in events. Stream consistently to attract fans and perform consistently. It's possible to do a lot while still in school - there are a number of players who did or currently are in school while progaming.

glhf


Thanks for taking time to respond QXC I really appreciate it

It means a lot hearing from someone that graduated from college and currently is a progamer. It's hard to get viewers as a new streamer but I'll stream daily and see if I can get some number of consistent viewers.

Thanks again and gl with everything you do.

Dragonfly

EDIT:

P.S.
You're basically the reason I switched to terran lol. We hung out a while at MLG Raleigh 2 summers ago with some kid from the crowd and my brother. So thanks again man.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
November 19 2012 05:55 GMT
#33
On November 19 2012 14:20 qxc wrote:
just play in tournaments and do well. that's really all it takes. Make friends on teams or at least notoriety by beating well known players in events. Stream consistently to attract fans and perform consistently. It's possible to do a lot while still in school - there are a number of players who did or currently are in school while progaming.

glhf



It's hard now though, especially when even the $20 tournaments are going to have korean pros in them.

Just gotta keep fightin' though!
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
November 19 2012 08:26 GMT
#34
Don't listen to QXC he's crazy ^^
Luck makes talent look like genius.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
November 19 2012 09:37 GMT
#35
Until you're high masters, there's really no point in asking for a chance because even if you got one, it wouldn't last. Hyeong Jun got "a chance" as a big TV project because he was popular as hell back then, and BW was popular as hell, so it was an amazing idea for a TV show. Should be noted that he never got really good at the game or anything and from a competitive standpoint, it was obviously a pretty useless measure. Even if you suddenly got a stream and 4000 people gave you a chance and watched it, none of them would stay, which is sad but true, there's so many people streaming, a ton of them grandmaster and a ton of them really funny, there's no space for someone who isn't good enough to impress.

Don't ask for a chance, just keep working towards your goal, try to become better at the game. When you're good enough to impress, people will come, and you will get your chance.
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
November 19 2012 11:40 GMT
#36
face the truth. you're diamond after 1 year of playing sc2. if you keep working hard, you can have your shot in 3 or 4 years maybe. but right now you're diamond. other people made it from scrub to grandmaster in 1 year.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 14:57:40
November 19 2012 14:55 GMT
#37
On November 19 2012 11:40 DragonflySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 11:37 Jeremyy wrote:
First off, become a much better player. I'd do that before worrying about other stuff.


I've been playing a lot more lately I took a break because things in school were becoming real rough, and there was the hurricane and everything near me.

Are there any respected lower level teams that may have an establishment that exists for players that are not in their main roster? I'm not even looking for a salary just something/somewhere to maintain the lifestyle required to train.


Please just get to High Master/GM before even considering going pro. You aren't nearly good enough. Frankly you are quite terrible. After all this time still diamond? Awful. Excuse my rudeness. Don't waste your life chasing an impossible dream. You aren't even good enough to understand how terrible you are. I was high master, hell even got into GM one season when I played, on average 2 hours a day. This is when I understood how terrible I truly was and that I atleast had to put in 6+ hours a day to have a chance at going pro.
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 16:08 GMT
#38
On November 19 2012 23:55 Recognizable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 11:40 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 19 2012 11:37 Jeremyy wrote:
First off, become a much better player. I'd do that before worrying about other stuff.


I've been playing a lot more lately I took a break because things in school were becoming real rough, and there was the hurricane and everything near me.

Are there any respected lower level teams that may have an establishment that exists for players that are not in their main roster? I'm not even looking for a salary just something/somewhere to maintain the lifestyle required to train.


Please just get to High Master/GM before even considering going pro. You aren't nearly good enough. Frankly you are quite terrible. After all this time still diamond? Awful. Excuse my rudeness. Don't waste your life chasing an impossible dream. You aren't even good enough to understand how terrible you are. I was high master, hell even got into GM one season when I played, on average 2 hours a day. This is when I understood how terrible I truly was and that I atleast had to put in 6+ hours a day to have a chance at going pro.


I'll be sure to message you after my success.

See you then.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
November 19 2012 16:17 GMT
#39
On November 20 2012 01:08 DragonflySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 23:55 Recognizable wrote:
On November 19 2012 11:40 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 19 2012 11:37 Jeremyy wrote:
First off, become a much better player. I'd do that before worrying about other stuff.


I've been playing a lot more lately I took a break because things in school were becoming real rough, and there was the hurricane and everything near me.

Are there any respected lower level teams that may have an establishment that exists for players that are not in their main roster? I'm not even looking for a salary just something/somewhere to maintain the lifestyle required to train.


Please just get to High Master/GM before even considering going pro. You aren't nearly good enough. Frankly you are quite terrible. After all this time still diamond? Awful. Excuse my rudeness. Don't waste your life chasing an impossible dream. You aren't even good enough to understand how terrible you are. I was high master, hell even got into GM one season when I played, on average 2 hours a day. This is when I understood how terrible I truly was and that I atleast had to put in 6+ hours a day to have a chance at going pro.


I'll be sure to message you after my success.

See you then.


You are delusional. I will post in again in this blog in a year. You really don't understand how terrible you are. Going from Bronze to Diamond is a completely different beast than going from low Master to high Master, not to mention going from your regular GM player to pro.
DragonflySC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
November 19 2012 16:43 GMT
#40
On November 20 2012 01:17 Recognizable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 01:08 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 19 2012 23:55 Recognizable wrote:
On November 19 2012 11:40 DragonflySC2 wrote:
On November 19 2012 11:37 Jeremyy wrote:
First off, become a much better player. I'd do that before worrying about other stuff.


I've been playing a lot more lately I took a break because things in school were becoming real rough, and there was the hurricane and everything near me.

Are there any respected lower level teams that may have an establishment that exists for players that are not in their main roster? I'm not even looking for a salary just something/somewhere to maintain the lifestyle required to train.


Please just get to High Master/GM before even considering going pro. You aren't nearly good enough. Frankly you are quite terrible. After all this time still diamond? Awful. Excuse my rudeness. Don't waste your life chasing an impossible dream. You aren't even good enough to understand how terrible you are. I was high master, hell even got into GM one season when I played, on average 2 hours a day. This is when I understood how terrible I truly was and that I atleast had to put in 6+ hours a day to have a chance at going pro.


I'll be sure to message you after my success.

See you then.


You are delusional. I will post in again in this blog in a year. You really don't understand how terrible you are. Going from Bronze to Diamond is a completely different beast than going from low Master to high Master, not to mention going from your regular GM player to pro.


See you in a year. That's if you don't see me first.
Learn from your losses, parade your wins
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