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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
September 02 2012 18:37 GMT
#21
On September 03 2012 03:25 ZerphyR wrote:
Thanks all for your advice I'll make an account on iCCup. But how are you ranked whats equivalent to GM in SC2? And why isn't there a ladder in BW?


there used to be an official bnet ladder for BW but blizzard dropped that ages ago. people also don't like playing on bnet because BW has a lot of built in latency, which private servers disable. i think there's some trick on regular bnet where you use #LL or something but i always played on iccup where lan latency was built into the iccup or chaos launcher.

approximate iccup ranks to sc2 ladder ranks
bronze-diamond keyboard/D-/D
masters D+/C-/C
gm C+/B-/B
korean pro B+ to A
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
September 02 2012 19:15 GMT
#22
On September 03 2012 03:25 ZerphyR wrote:
Thanks all for your advice I'll make an account on iCCup. But how are you ranked whats equivalent to GM in SC2? And why isn't there a ladder in BW?

Iccup is BW's ladder, there's also the Korean Fish Server which has a lot more players on it but I'd advise sticking to iccup at first.

On September 03 2012 03:37 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 03:25 ZerphyR wrote:
Thanks all for your advice I'll make an account on iCCup. But how are you ranked whats equivalent to GM in SC2? And why isn't there a ladder in BW?


there used to be an official bnet ladder for BW but blizzard dropped that ages ago. people also don't like playing on bnet because BW has a lot of built in latency, which private servers disable. i think there's some trick on regular bnet where you use #LL or something but i always played on iccup where lan latency was built into the iccup or chaos launcher.

approximate iccup ranks to sc2 ladder ranks
bronze-diamond keyboard/D-/D
masters D+/C-/C
gm C+/B-/B
korean pro B+ to A

You need Chaos Launcher with the lan latency plugin to use #LL on Bnet.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11379 Posts
September 02 2012 20:43 GMT
#23
On September 03 2012 03:25 ZerphyR wrote:
Thanks all for your advice I'll make an account on iCCup. But how are you ranked whats equivalent to GM in SC2? And why isn't there a ladder in BW?

Also, if you can recruit real life friends to play the game for fun, I think you'll get the biggest bang for your buck for the fun factor. You probably need to grind a bunch against the computer to learn macro, but ultimately playing against real people is the most fun/ rewarding.

The biggest problems is the jump in skill on iccup. However, there are similar SC2 players that have been trying out BW over the last year.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
ZerphyR
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Slovenia275 Posts
September 02 2012 20:49 GMT
#24
On September 03 2012 05:43 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 03:25 ZerphyR wrote:
Thanks all for your advice I'll make an account on iCCup. But how are you ranked whats equivalent to GM in SC2? And why isn't there a ladder in BW?

Also, if you can recruit real life friends to play the game for fun, I think you'll get the biggest bang for your buck for the fun factor. You probably need to grind a bunch against the computer to learn macro, but ultimately playing against real people is the most fun/ rewarding.

The biggest problems is the jump in skill on iccup. However, there are similar SC2 players that have been trying out BW over the last year.


I couldn't agree more with you. Is there a more efficient way to practice than vs. the computers?
Marineking, end of discussion !
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11379 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 22:08:16
September 02 2012 22:02 GMT
#25
On September 03 2012 05:49 ZerphyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 05:43 Falling wrote:
On September 03 2012 03:25 ZerphyR wrote:
Thanks all for your advice I'll make an account on iCCup. But how are you ranked whats equivalent to GM in SC2? And why isn't there a ladder in BW?

Also, if you can recruit real life friends to play the game for fun, I think you'll get the biggest bang for your buck for the fun factor. You probably need to grind a bunch against the computer to learn macro, but ultimately playing against real people is the most fun/ rewarding.

The biggest problems is the jump in skill on iccup. However, there are similar SC2 players that have been trying out BW over the last year.


I couldn't agree more with you. Is there a more efficient way to practice than vs. the computers?

I don't what works for other people. I just know that, for me personally I tended to play a game on iccup, lose badly, play a lot against the computer fixing build order errors (sometimes just quitting if I made one early game mistake like forgetting to make one probe), and trying to keep my money down, before going back to iccup.

There might be a better way to do it, but I personally don't mind focusing on one thing over and over to fix it before playing more ladder games. Other people would probably say to ladder more, but you'll probably also experience more iccup losses. I think I lost 25 games before I got my first win nearly 2 years ago, some will say you need to lose 100 games on iccup to win. Not sure if that's true anymore. I don't know THE correct way, I just know A way. And I do know, playing with real life friends is a real blast provided you can balance out the teams.

The biggest issue with macroing is knowing your hotkeys. I liked to practice the hotkey patterns when I wasn't playing the game (loading screens on Mass Effect for instance). Being able to fly across the keyboard when making units is huge. Just so long as you're practicing useful patterns. I accidently got into the habit of typing 0p98p rather than 0p9p8p and was always missing probes on my natural expansion.

What's really awesome if you have a specific problem, to be able to practice with another clan member. There was specific Terran timing that was killing me and we just practiced defending against it again and again. Especially because you have shared replays and can save game and play from specific point in the game. Extremely powerful stuff if you can find the occasional person to practice with.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Seven8
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada49 Posts
October 15 2012 20:57 GMT
#26
I was just about to create a similar blog but I stumbled across this one.

It is my intention to begin learning how to play BW after the fall semester is over. As a young child, I was always too scared to try to play BW. With the release of SC2 I began to really enjoy RTS gaming and I became aware of the proper way to play them. With this in mind, I have always wanted to go back and learn the game that I was once scarred of as a young child.

Looking forward to seeing/practicing with some of you folks in the near future!
"We don't mess around" - Frank Zappa
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
October 15 2012 23:22 GMT
#27
On October 16 2012 05:57 Seven8 wrote:
I was just about to create a similar blog but I stumbled across this one.

It is my intention to begin learning how to play BW after the fall semester is over. As a young child, I was always too scared to try to play BW. With the release of SC2 I began to really enjoy RTS gaming and I became aware of the proper way to play them. With this in mind, I have always wanted to go back and learn the game that I was once scarred of as a young child.

Looking forward to seeing/practicing with some of you folks in the near future!


Did you create an sGs account on iCCup? There are quite a few active players there that would be happy to help you out. If you log into iCCup after joining the team and use the command "/c o", you can see which of your teammates are online.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
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