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Poker in the USA

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24813 Posts
August 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#1
I just read an NBC news item which indicates that legal online poker is becoming more of a possibility down the road for us Americans.

Poker is game of skill, not chance, New York judge rules, upping Internet ante (I suggest you read the whole article if you want to reply in this thread)

When a businessman was defending his backroom poker game in court,

Poker, they argued, is primarily a game of skill and therefore isn't covered by the federal law. On Tuesday, Federal District Court Judge Jack Weinstein agreed.


The reason why this is a good thing for people who want online poker to be permissible for U.S. citizens is because

...legal experts say it also undercuts one of three federal laws used in the past to shut down online poker in the U.S. The Justice Department concluded earlier this year that another of the laws should not apply to online poker.


In other words, of three legal arguments for why online poker should be illegal in the USA, two of them have been greatly weakened. After all,

forms of gambling typically covered by federal law involve betting against casinos running the games, which manipulate the odds of winning. A poker player, by contrast, bets solely against other players, not the house.


In my opinion:

When the house is only taking a rake, a game should be treated differently (legally) than gambling against the house like in roulette, blackjack, or craps. How is poker (pvp) any different than day traders taking each other's money with brokers and government regulators taking rakes?

You can take a general anti-gambling stance if you want (with some good reason), but if we are going to block activities with U.S. law we should make sure we are blocking it for the right ones.

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Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
August 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#2
I hope it happens, but I'll believe it when I see it. I guess I've heard the phrase soon one too many times from blizzard.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 22 2012 18:31 GMT
#3
I won't lie if it became legal again and pokerstars came back to the US I would be so god damn happy. I miss playing on pokerstars so much :/.
When I think of something else, something will go here
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8971 Posts
August 22 2012 18:34 GMT
#4
And at least when you play poker, you are playing with your own money. Not like traders who play with other people's mortgages.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 22 2012 18:34 GMT
#5
Sadly, the way something is regarded is not based on what it is, but on how big the lobby behind is.
It would be great to see reason win in this case.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 22 2012 18:38 GMT
#6
Mmm man if online poker gets legalized again I'm gonna hop right in that and take advantage of all that buzz. It's just too much of a damn hassle to try to play online when all you want is to have a little fun and make/lose some pocket money on the side.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 22 2012 19:01 GMT
#7
The funny thing is, poker has to be accepted as a skill game for it to be legal in USA, while in France we militate for it to stay under the luck games, as the gains of those kind of games are not taxed here =) It's legal in France tho for 2 or 3 years, with the government taking a take (a part of the rake at the table).
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32165 Posts
August 22 2012 19:07 GMT
#8
This would be fucking awesome.
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GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
August 22 2012 19:12 GMT
#9


I don't think PS will be allowed back into the US market. Though, the casionos in Las Vegas will open up shop soon.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#10
relevant
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
August 22 2012 19:25 GMT
#11
PLEASE PLEASE make it legal in the US. I need to put my Ed Miller Small Stakes Hold Em book to use. It's collecting dust!!
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
August 22 2012 22:36 GMT
#12
This would be nice, i would enjoy playing some pokerstars, would be nice to see how i stack up against people for money.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 22 2012 22:57 GMT
#13
Pretty interesting post...seems like some good points there.
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petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
August 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#14
On August 23 2012 04:12 DigiGnar wrote:
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