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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 21:27:54
August 11 2012 20:35 GMT
#1
I know the steps to this question but i keeps getting it wrong
Find an equation for the tangent line to the following curve,
h(x) = 16x − 5 ln x
at the point where x = e.
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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 11 2012 20:50 GMT
#2
Shrooms is the one drug I regret ever taking. There were moments of good trippiness (closed eye visuals to music), but then there were hours of anxiety and terror. I've been a more anxious person overall since doing it that one time, so I feel like my brain has been permanently affected for the worse from it.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 21:07:31
August 11 2012 21:06 GMT
#3
On August 12 2012 05:50 EscPlan9 wrote:
Shrooms is the one drug I regret ever taking. There were moments of good trippiness (closed eye visuals to music), but then there were hours of anxiety and terror. I've been a more anxious person overall since doing it that one time, so I feel like my brain has been permanently affected for the worse from it.

Yes. The reason I used them for this second time was primarily because I had good memories of dreaming away to 70s rock from the other time, but apparently even just lying in bed listening to music comes with its own set of challenges.

And in case anyone's worrying, I'm already happier now than half an hour ago, so things might end up okay. :p
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
August 11 2012 21:22 GMT
#4
Both times I took shrooms I had fantastic experiences. I will never forget the sheer lust for life I had the first time I took it - it was the first time in my life I was ever excited to spend the next few hours doing ANYTHING in my own skin. It showed to me that I was capable of being happy and living an enthusiastic life and now I work towards that feeling in sobriety
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
August 11 2012 21:25 GMT
#5
I did mushrooms a few times, and liked it every time. I have heard some really bad stories and am super glad that I stopped when I did and did not get any of the bad experiences.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
August 11 2012 21:28 GMT
#6
i'm on shrooms as i write this post and i have to say i can't relate with the bad experiences. i love everything and the world is just sooo nice. gives me a lot of perspective too. you should not be riding a bicycle on shrooms though. the perspective changes and thoughts ballooning off may be wildly disorienting. i'm going to change the thread title to the one you suggested =)
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1059 Posts
August 11 2012 21:32 GMT
#7
Stuff like the rabbit and communication with people you don't know (while you guess if they realise you're high, etc., stress leads to more stress...) must have been wierd. Just try to calm yourself down. You know the high will go away. Everything you experienced was under influence so don't overstate your impressions.

Don't do that stuff out of boredom alone at home. I count shrooms to the more dangerous drugs personally and would never ever take them. I got no problem personaly with party drugs up to coke once in a while (couple of months, helluva drug stay away from it!), but I'd never ever take shrooms, mescalin or LSD. Most people i know are fine with it, but i also know 2 persons who were never the same after LSD abuse. + Show Spoiler +
Well one guy stored 20-30 acid trips for a dealer friend. He took one, got on a strange trip and ended up eating the rest like a pack of crisps. He survived, but well he's completely fucked. This was 15 years ago and i think he's still in a mental institution...

If you really want to experiment with it, be in a good mood, be careful, have somebody there who comforts you. If you are depressed or got some mental condition or are insecure about it, don't do it.

Best thing, as you mentionend: Just stay away from it.
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 23:18:56
August 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#8
Took two tabs of acid, three hits of Molly, 8th of shrooms and ketamine to finish it off at a burner party. It changed my life forever and in a good way, in terms of lifelong friends I met and just learning about this beautiful world.

Psychedelics should be used responsibly at all times and in the proper mindset - bad trips CAN be prevented. Just don't question the trip. Let it be. Go with the flow...

By responsibly do not abuse it. LSD is precious and should be treated as such.
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
August 11 2012 23:39 GMT
#9
On August 12 2012 06:28 intrigue wrote:
i'm on shrooms as i write this post and i have to say i can't relate with the bad experiences. i love everything and the world is just sooo nice. gives me a lot of perspective too. you should not be riding a bicycle on shrooms though. the perspective changes and thoughts ballooning off may be wildly disorienting. i'm going to change the thread title to the one you suggested =)


intrigue i love you

and yes op, be responsible about your drug-taking ... dont just lock yourself in your room when the people in the house dont even know what you're doing. Especially dont go riding a bike and especially dont interact with too many people T_T these are all breeding grounds for anxiety and paranoia

ALWAYS take care of your SET and SETTING. Or else you're gonna have a baaaad time.
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ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 00:15:18
August 12 2012 00:09 GMT
#10
shrooms for me are the hardest drug to keep my wits about me while under the influence. still a great time but if i get to choose i choose lsd.


more people need to realize that responsible psychedelic drug use will make us ALL better off and possibly save this planet.
Galfi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil56 Posts
August 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#11
i find shrooms to be a deep personal experience, not a "party drug" to pointless take at random times.

that being said, i can totally understand what you went through, it's really stressfull to intereact with random people while you are under the effects, and you should be in a clear state of mind to be able to apreciate the experience (a.k.a. with friends who also took it so you can help each other and talk a bit, or a in a far away place like a farm or so).

drugs can be freaking dangerous, but they can also teach you SO MUCH about yourself, i'm glad you learned from this experience and get to be a bit more carefull on future ocasions

cheers from Brazil
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 12 2012 00:51 GMT
#12
I find that when on drugs, try to stay up as much as possible to NOT doze off and fall asleep. Let the effect slowly go off and only go to sleep 3 hours after it goes away. Or else your memory will be severely damaged because you would consider the trip to be only a 'dream' and not real. In a sense, your brain treat it like a get-a-way from the virtue of tangibility. When that occurs, the development of independence starts.
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ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
August 12 2012 01:07 GMT
#13
On August 12 2012 05:50 EscPlan9 wrote:
Shrooms is the one drug I regret ever taking. There were moments of good trippiness (closed eye visuals to music), but then there were hours of anxiety and terror. I've been a more anxious person overall since doing it that one time, so I feel like my brain has been permanently affected for the worse from it.


People don't realize - this can happen with any drug, even weed. All it takes is one bad trip. Arguing against it is pure idiocy, you can never accurately predict how your body will react to a line of coke. Speaking from some serious personal experience here - drugs are fun while everything goes according to plan, but that can change any second. And, ike the quoted guy said, it might affect your entire life.
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xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#14
On August 12 2012 09:09 ParkwayDrive wrote:
shrooms for me are the hardest drug to keep my wits about me while under the influence. still a great time but if i get to choose i choose lsd.


more people need to realize that responsible psychedelic drug use will make us ALL better off and possibly save this planet.

First i want to address this post, YES i think that if everyone did mushrooms Once it would make the world a better place. This is the big reason why i think it important for us to have these kinds of dicussions and not just try to come up with some "these drugs are bad, these drugs are good"

second i want to talk about this sentence: One silly thing is that I looked at a rabbit hopping on a field sort of bathing in sunlight and I couldn't tell whether I felt it looked quite beautiful in sort of a quiet intimate way because of the drugs or if I would have really felt that way when sober.

I feel like this shows why you aren't fully understanding shrooms, or what the mental state of being on a psychedelic is like. Wondering things like "is this feeling i have just the drugs" is the absolute counter to trying to engage yourself in the world around you while you are on drugs. maybe try to think of the fact that you have molded yourself together with a large part of the world in a new way, and it's important to recognize everything that you are feeling is a part of you...

And i also want to say that you seem to have a good idea about what to do on shrooms (music, being comfortable, lying down, computer?) but you have missed one BIG PART: a trip sitter. if a trip goes bad it is important that you should have someone there to help you IRL , who is maybe not on shrooms. This is for safety. Also you shouldn't lock yourself in your room, go somewhere with space i'm sure no one will bother you if you don't bother them!!

you can do it OP
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
August 12 2012 01:27 GMT
#15
Have to say I'm quite impressed at the responses here btw. I remember some blogs and threads a few years ago where a discussion like this would be instantly flooded by ignorant hate against mind-altering substances. TL keeps leveling up!
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 02:05:45
August 12 2012 02:04 GMT
#16
I feel like shrooms really depends on context. you need to be in a good place with good people.

edit: both my experiences on shrooms were amazing and deeply spiritual.
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 12 2012 02:50 GMT
#17
When taking shrooms you have to be in the right mindset - happy, at peace, and looking forward to the experience. You should also prepare the right setting, e.g. good music, enjoyable surroundings, etc. I for one cannot imagine taking shrooms and going out in public. I feel like it would take away from the experience and maybe put you in uncomfortable situations (like in your case). The last thing I find really important is the right company AND a sitter, so you never feel alone, insecure or at danger.
When I took shrooms I did them with a good friend who is quite experienced. Both of us were on shrooms while we had two other friends as sitters (although they smoked a ridiculous amount of weed in the meantime). We made ourselves comfortable in his living room and put on some great music. Even though there were some minor inconviniences for me (stomach hurting, the feeling of water flowing UP the wall, a significant amount of time in which I was not able to either talk or move), I had a great experience due to my mindset, the setting, and the company. I feel like everybody should try shrooms this way since if you're taken care of everything (aka doing it right) it is an enlightening experience.
I sure as hell intend to repeat this sometime in the future.
Peanutbutter717
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States240 Posts
August 12 2012 05:27 GMT
#18
On August 12 2012 10:07 ecstatica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 05:50 EscPlan9 wrote:
Shrooms is the one drug I regret ever taking. There were moments of good trippiness (closed eye visuals to music), but then there were hours of anxiety and terror. I've been a more anxious person overall since doing it that one time, so I feel like my brain has been permanently affected for the worse from it.


People don't realize - this can happen with any drug, even weed. All it takes is one bad trip. Arguing against it is pure idiocy, you can never accurately predict how your body will react to a line of coke. Speaking from some serious personal experience here - drugs are fun while everything goes according to plan, but that can change any second. And, ike the quoted guy said, it might affect your entire life.


The first time I smoked I had a bad trip. It was a sativa and I thought people were after me, it was bad.

I didnt want anything to do with it after until my friend got indica and said it was much more enjoyable, and it was. I discovered the beauty of sour skittles.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 09:26:04
August 12 2012 09:24 GMT
#19
On August 12 2012 10:27 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Have to say I'm quite impressed at the responses here btw. I remember some blogs and threads a few years ago where a discussion like this would be instantly flooded by ignorant hate against mind-altering substances. TL keeps leveling up!


yeah surprised me aswell. but maybe its because the "dont do drugs" title attracts people that want to argue for drugs. while a "yay shrooms" title would maybe attract different people.


anyways maybe its a bit too much praise here. esp shrooms are very powerful ,hard to dose and need a good setting.
doing them alone without much expirience with people near that you wouldnt want to know about what youre doing is asking for a bad expirience.
also without much expirience most drugs should be something that you dont do alone for many and various reasons.

if youre still interested set up a proper situation where you will actually enjoy the time. or try lsd which imho is way easier to dose and the more "friendly" drug.




The first time I smoked I had a bad trip. It was a sativa and I thought people were after me, it was bad.

I didnt want anything to do with it after until my friend got indica and said it was much more enjoyable, and it was. I discovered the beauty of sour skittles.


what kind of bad trip are we talkin here?
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 14:08:53
August 12 2012 14:07 GMT
#20
On August 12 2012 18:24 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:

what kind of bad trip are we talkin here?


As i understood, he became paranoid. If you feel stuff like this with any substance stay away from it. My sister is completely wasted when she has three glasses of wine, so she just doesn't drink more than 1. If weed messes you up, stay away from it, easy as that. (though i don't know of any serious conditions being triggered by weed. Most of the time the problem lies within the person, there is NO established evidence AT ALL for THC triggering serious mental illness on its own. If there is, i'd really like to know.)

Thing with shrooms and LSD is, if you are not careful, or have psychological problems it can be bad. As many people mentionend, shrooms are hard to dose. And a bad trip might go on for hours if you stress out, don't manage to calm down and accept the drug. I that case it might leave its mark on you. After a binge you vomit and go to sleep. Psychedelic drugs don't work that way.
I stay away from shrooms and LSD because i had metal problems in my life and am afraid of a horror trip, which is the first step of getting one, imo. Best thing might be just take em in good fun without any worries. I can't do that, so i leave it be.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 15:56:52
August 12 2012 15:50 GMT
#21
On August 12 2012 23:07 r00ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 18:24 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:

what kind of bad trip are we talkin here?


As i understood, he became paranoid. If you feel stuff like this with any substance stay away from it. My sister is completely wasted when she has three glasses of wine, so she just doesn't drink more than 1. If weed messes you up, stay away from it, easy as that. (though i don't know of any serious conditions being triggered by weed. Most of the time the problem lies within the person, there is NO established evidence AT ALL for THC triggering serious mental illness on its own. If there is, i'd really like to know.)

Thing with shrooms and LSD is, if you are not careful, or have psychological problems it can be bad. As many people mentionend, shrooms are hard to dose. And a bad trip might go on for hours if you stress out, don't manage to calm down and accept the drug. I that case it might leave its mark on you. After a binge you vomit and go to sleep. Psychedelic drugs don't work that way.
I stay away from shrooms and LSD because i had metal problems in my life and am afraid of a horror trip, which is the first step of getting one, imo. Best thing might be just take em in good fun without any worries. I can't do that, so i leave it be.


Mushrooms are EXTREMELY easy to dose man.

Want to relax yet still do stuff around town?

Take a gram to two grams.

Want to actually trip?

Take over an eighth.

LSD is hard to dose, you don't know the actual micrograms on it unless you've tested the batch yourself before hand, or have knowledge of whoever layed it.

Mushrooms are ok... acid Is so much better imo. They both have their place though.

(I had the best trip of my entire life recently with acid, I wanted to blog about it but not sure if anybody would be interested or anything)
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
August 12 2012 16:29 GMT
#22
I'm curious though, since acid trips can last up to 12 hours how can you cope with bad trips?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
August 12 2012 16:49 GMT
#23
On August 13 2012 01:29 Grumbels wrote:
I'm curious though, since acid trips can last up to 12 hours how can you cope with bad trips?


I've had "bad trips" on LSD. They're a lot easier to handle than bad trips on mushrooms, at least for me.

Also the peak would be the biggest part of acid, which lasts like 4-5-6 hours. If you're having a bad time it'll likely end after that.

I had a trip on acid after I got my surgery done, and I felt like the surgery wounds were ripping back open and I freaked the hell out, but STILL managed to find some enjoyment from it.

Mushrooms? Fuck that. Bad trip on mushrooms for me and I'm just done. I'll lay there and cry for hours.
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adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
August 12 2012 18:12 GMT
#24
Yea I used to do hallucinogens a bit in the past, I did shrooms in Amsterdam when I was 17 and various other things after that. Now I steer clear of them ever since I took acid, which is a fairly humorous, albeit slightly dark story.

To cut a very long story short, I took too much on Hampstead Health in London, we were chilling out but I started to get really anxious, I basically felt like I was on the lowest rung of society (weird to explain fully) and I was with a bunch of degenerates (the guys I was with I knew, and like me were all studying physics at a very prestigious university).

I had to get out of there and away from these people, I ended up running away from them and walking around very nice areas of north london, I'll spare the details but I came too in Camden covered in anti-vandal paint, minus my bag with my nice headphones, wallet, keys, phone (which I threw away on the heath). In that time I had walked into peoples houses, had a lie down in someones garden, threw a small rock at a woman on a bike, then tried to hug her when she rightly confronted me about it.

When I came too I was in a state of total helplessness, I had no money, I was hungry and very thirsty, I had a vague idea of where I was but it was quite far from my house and my flatmate was away so I had no way of getting in.

I did end up getting home thanks to a nice bus driver, who I told I was mugged and my neighbours let me hop their fence after giving me a glass of water as my backdoor was closed but unlocked.

My state of mind at the time when I was up was completely devoid of any perception of who I was, I was basically going around 'experiencing' things but in a very odd way, I feel very lucky that I didn't do anything to actually harm myself or anyone else and one thing I couldn't help feel afterwards was just how terrifying it must be to experience this kind of thing due to mental illness, the confusion, the helplessness etc

The high itself was definitely enjoyable, although the fallout when sobering up was horrible and I didn't really leave the house much for a month or two after, but I am thankfully a very happy and pragmatic person and the experience taught me quite a lot about some things which I don't think a person could learn any other way, it really reveals the fragility of our minds and gives you a much deeper appreciation for the suffering of mental illness.

I think these substances are a double edged sword, you can learn some valuable things, although the 'expanding your mind' part to me is nonsense, you are closing off parts of your brain.

These days I just stick to a nice bit of weed from my trusty vaporizer as I know the worst consequence from that is eating the contents of my fridge and feeling a bit groggy in the morning if I do too much.
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 19:07:17
August 12 2012 18:58 GMT
#25
On August 13 2012 00:50 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 23:07 r00ty wrote:
On August 12 2012 18:24 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:

what kind of bad trip are we talkin here?


As i understood, he became paranoid. If you feel stuff like this with any substance stay away from it. My sister is completely wasted when she has three glasses of wine, so she just doesn't drink more than 1. If weed messes you up, stay away from it, easy as that. (though i don't know of any serious conditions being triggered by weed. Most of the time the problem lies within the person, there is NO established evidence AT ALL for THC triggering serious mental illness on its own. If there is, i'd really like to know.)

Thing with shrooms and LSD is, if you are not careful, or have psychological problems it can be bad. As many people mentionend, shrooms are hard to dose. And a bad trip might go on for hours if you stress out, don't manage to calm down and accept the drug. I that case it might leave its mark on you. After a binge you vomit and go to sleep. Psychedelic drugs don't work that way.
I stay away from shrooms and LSD because i had metal problems in my life and am afraid of a horror trip, which is the first step of getting one, imo. Best thing might be just take em in good fun without any worries. I can't do that, so i leave it be.


Mushrooms are EXTREMELY easy to dose man.

Want to relax yet still do stuff around town?

Take a gram to two grams.

Want to actually trip?

Take over an eighth.

LSD is hard to dose, you don't know the actual micrograms on it unless you've tested the batch yourself before hand, or have knowledge of whoever layed it.

Mushrooms are ok... acid Is so much better imo. They both have their place though.


The amount of psilocybin can deversify greatly in shrooms as well. I guess you are talking about shrooms produced under industrialised conditions. They may be quite save to dose, dunno, i'm no shroom guru.
I just know, you should be really careful with the ones you find everywhere in the woods over here in the right time of year: You get "unlucky" and the first serving is lame, then you think you have to take a lot more and suddenly it's killer good stuff, so you overshoot your goal. Can and has happenend. Not to me, but i've been around. Good thing about drugs with long time effects is you can slowly reach for the aimed high. Just be careful, if you're unexperienced.

Also keep in mind every person is different. Different tolerance levels, etc. I already mentionend mental conditions...

On August 13 2012 00:50 PanN wrote:
(I had the best trip of my entire life recently with acid, I wanted to blog about it but not sure if anybody would be interested or anything)


I don't know man, i'm always interested but there's kids around here... We won't encourage them, do we?
russian
Profile Joined June 2011
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 07:41:05
August 13 2012 07:36 GMT
#26
I plan on trying some drugs. Is it anything like alcohol? I can hold my liquor quite fine and i have some preferences to a couple of drinks, having next to no hang-over, be it even 1+ liter of red wine, while others make the next morning quite hard to bare.

I want to be starting on weed and later try shrooms. I'm aware of the possibility of having bad trips, that's why i've promised myself i'll do them only when i'm in a tip-top mental state, when i'm happy and everything is going great.

I've never smoked tough, i've tried to a couple of years ago and not only it didn't feel right, but the taste felt horrible. Will this hinder the weed experience?


I am also meditating, this alone should help keep my mind at ease if anything turns bad, right? I'm not training it for nothing.
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