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IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
June 04 2012 14:57 GMT
#1
So after spending way too much time on TL and nearing my 1000th post, I started to wonder what I should do to honor it. I browsed TL and looked over various 1000th post blogs thinking of ideas. Some with polls on what they should do, some with people using it for humor, some thanking TL etc. etc.

Later that night, in bed, falling asleep I had a vision. One that would increase the quality of my posts and have considerable upside. I thought, why not make a Post Jar? Much like a swear jar, only putting money in it for every TL post, rather than swearing. I thought, this should make me refrain from making pointless posts such as 'THIS IS AWESOME' or 'SICK GAME' (which I tend to do so often). Thus increasing the quality of my posts while also having a fund to use on all things TL/Starcraft related. Surely I will post more times in a GSL season than the dollar amount for a GOM ticket to watch those very games.

Some people will say this should be used as a punishment, and posting on TL shouldn't be punished. However I prefer to look at it from the perspective of rewarding yourself for making a quality post. For every good post you make, another dollar (or whatever unit you choose) is added and brings you that much closer to being able to afford a cute little reward!

So now, with my increased post quality, my GSL/GSTL tickets should be taken care of. Possibly with a little extra added on the side for a new keyboard/headset (if needed) and all that good stuff. Because hey, we all love good stuff! On top of that, you never have to count how much you have! Because our favorite site/community (TL.net) keeps a running tally just for our convenience! Its right there in your post count! I will be putting 1$ in for every post, starting with post 1001. If I am curious as to how much I've saved up, I just go to my public profile, see that I have (random example) 1076 posts and instantly know theres 76$ in my jar!

After a quick search of TL to see if anyone else had come up with this idea, the closest thing I ran into was this thread by Shanedon: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326059

So without further ado, I present my very own TL Post Jar:

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As you can see its currently empty! I've added the TL logo to the jar for a nice touch! Theres also a small square of lined paper on the back to write in any withdrawls for tickets/goodies for future reference, to keep it easy to calculate how much is left in the jar (TL posts [since jar started] - withdrawls = current amount!)!

Just figured my 1000th post would be a suitable time to unveil this jar, both for the honorary purpose aswell as making the maths side of the TL Post Jar easy!

Feel free to post and discuss similar ideas/things you have tried or are keen to try!

****
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
June 04 2012 15:01 GMT
#2
This is a really cool idea! I don't post nearly enough to make this worth while for me though
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
June 04 2012 15:02 GMT
#3
So wait, everytime you post shitty you set money aside to buy a GSL pass?
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
June 04 2012 15:07 GMT
#4
Cool jar, and grats on 1k!
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
June 04 2012 15:25 GMT
#5
Awesome idea Congrats on the 1k post keep us posted on how well this works out for you!
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mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
June 04 2012 15:31 GMT
#6
This is a much better idea than my 1000th post lol
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15362 Posts
June 04 2012 15:38 GMT
#7
This is so cool. Gratz on 1k and really awesome idea!

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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
June 04 2012 16:02 GMT
#8
I bought an ex-girlfriend a decent sound-system for her car with my swear jar earnings once.
This sounds like a far better idea!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 16:06:28
June 04 2012 16:06 GMT
#9
This is awesome, I wouldn't do it, but I think this is pretty practical beyond TL
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Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
June 04 2012 16:41 GMT
#10
That's a really cool idea. I really like it man, good job!
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 16:53:13
June 04 2012 16:52 GMT
#11
Postivie reinforcement FTW!
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
June 04 2012 16:57 GMT
#12
Ummmm... so your posts will go to your GSL/GSTL tickets and new keyboard and headeset.... interesting. For me though... I think this would be an incentive to post a lot ^_^
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
SneakerDead
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands16 Posts
June 04 2012 17:40 GMT
#13
So awesome (on my way to my own 1000 posts )
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
June 04 2012 17:55 GMT
#14
Pretty clever. Good luck!!
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
June 04 2012 18:10 GMT
#15
Awesome idea, congrats on 1k!
Moderatorgold coin
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
June 04 2012 18:57 GMT
#16
great idea <3
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juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
June 04 2012 18:59 GMT
#17
Cmen would have alot posts in that jar
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
June 04 2012 19:12 GMT
#18
Awesome idea and congrats on that 1000 mark. Good luck with the post jar and hope it works well!
In Inca we trust
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 04 2012 19:16 GMT
#19
Congrats on 1k!
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 04 2012 19:19 GMT
#20
you`ll be rich when hitting the 10k post count
keep it deep! @zulison
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10325 Posts
June 04 2012 19:57 GMT
#21
Thats actually pretty cool. spam in LR threads!!! :D
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TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 20:12:26
June 04 2012 20:10 GMT
#22
I feel like I have the opposite problem. Too often I say to myself, "my opinion is meaningless on this topic, no one wants to read it" and refrain from posting something I've already typed out. Its amazing how often I see people with an exponentially higher post count than myself, who have been browsing TL (or at least registered) for a small fraction of the time.

edit: That sounded kinda condescending which was unintended. I think at the core it comes from still thinking of myself as new around here anyway~
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
June 04 2012 20:25 GMT
#23
That is a really cool neat idea :3 hope you will get to buy your gsl ticket once
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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
June 04 2012 20:52 GMT
#24
On June 05 2012 04:19 zul wrote:
you`ll be rich when hitting the 10k post count


another way to look at it, he'll be poor becuz all his money is in the jar
My religion is Starcraft
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
June 04 2012 20:59 GMT
#25
how do you plan on keeping it up? With motivation etc I mean, you could just use your money right now and buy whatever you want. Why save up like that. You might stop posting because you dont want to put your money in the jar. If it was someone else putting money in it, I would understand.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 21:09:42
June 04 2012 21:09 GMT
#26
Note, the poor bastard still only at 1000 posts... :p
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 21:24:16
June 04 2012 21:22 GMT
#27
after looking at the jar and before reading at all, i was all prepared to say "MUST BE WHERE YOU KEEP YOUR GOOD POSTS LOLOL"

not as funny after reading though eh

to clarify, because its a pretty sweet idea.
Corvette
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States433 Posts
June 04 2012 22:16 GMT
#28
When you reach 1000000 posts, change your address
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
June 04 2012 22:24 GMT
#29
I don't think spam posters like TDL can afford an idea like this.
Thank God and gunrun.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 05 2012 00:50 GMT
#30
This is a cool idea, I hope it works out well for you. I envy your GSL season tickets and I may just have to follow your example, though my inordinate love of Live Report threads would be the end of me.
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Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
June 05 2012 01:05 GMT
#31
Gratz on 1K. I think you will be able to buy a car or something once you reach 5k! :D
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galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
June 05 2012 02:50 GMT
#32
Not to rain on anyone's parade but that seems highly impractical. Do you always have one dollar bills with you?
What if you need it for food? Are you not a starving college student? (I am ofc).
I mean, best of luck, but i don't see this working out at all.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 05 2012 03:03 GMT
#33
So much better than any of my thousand posts. Gz
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IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
June 05 2012 03:51 GMT
#34
To clear up a few things (and put the first dollar in the jar!), I'll respond to a few peoples different views.

There are a couple different ways people have been looking at it. One being, this would make them want to post more or that they would just post more as an excuse to buy/get more rewards. One post even asking what is stopping me from just buying the stuff with my money now and not bothering.

The other (mainly brought up by galtdunn), is that it is too costly and toohard to have the right amount laying around to put in the jar after each post.

In response to these I would say that I find myself in some sort of middle ground where I am not a starving college student, but am not rich enough to just have a huge amount of dispensable money. So I can't afford to just run out and spend 1000$ and say "ok, now i dont have to worry about putting a dollar in for my next 1000 posts". So I'm not just going to be posting like mad to get shiny new stuff. But at the same time I'm in a position where (as long as im not posting like a wild man, quality > quantity) 1$ per post shouldn't cut to deep into my bank account to affect me per post.

And in regards to not 'always having one dollar bills with me', in Australia we don't use one dollar bills, we have coins. Not only that, I can always use silver coins to make up a dollar and I'm not sure about the rest of Australia but i always have an abundance of silver coins laying around because frankly, I find it impractical to carry around tens of coins in a little wallet. I generally just throw them on my desk when my wallet gets to fat with them and carry on using notes instead. So I don't forsee any problems coming up with an exact dollar for every post, assuming there wont be crazy amounts every day.

In goes the first dollar!
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
June 05 2012 04:08 GMT
#35
gonna need a bigger jar
buscettn
Profile Joined April 2009
Austria129 Posts
June 05 2012 05:37 GMT
#36
funny idea.
your profile info says you average 3 posts a day, in a month you nearly get 100 dollars when continuing your current posting habits... i guess there will be enough opportunities for some good stuff on the side gl
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
June 05 2012 05:38 GMT
#37
On June 05 2012 01:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
This is awesome, I wouldn't do it, but I think this is pretty practical beyond TL

I don't think a TL Jar your size has been invented yet.

Honourable mention to Seeker, of course.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37061 Posts
June 05 2012 12:02 GMT
#38
On June 05 2012 14:38 Mobius_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 01:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
This is awesome, I wouldn't do it, but I think this is pretty practical beyond TL

I don't think a TL Jar your size has been invented yet.

Honourable mention to Seeker, of course.

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hatespam
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania161 Posts
June 05 2012 13:00 GMT
#39
do you have to put in a dollar if you answer a question like this one?
ask, and you shall have asked
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:42:22
June 05 2012 15:38 GMT
#40
Sometimes when I post I ask myself "is this worth posting?". 1 time out of 3 I just don't post it then. So I already kind of do this, except my jar is imaginary and also empty.


I don't understand why the fuck stupid, cunt assholes would use something as dumb as fuck as a swear jar though. Swearing is so colorful if used properly.

Edit: Oh wait I just understood the principle of the post jar. I still dislike the idea though simply because I'm sure that better quality posts could be achieved by simply asking the question "is this post going to add something meaningful to the discussion or not?"
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 05 2012 15:51 GMT
#41
Im so confused.

You're actually finding an excuse to spend on stuff right ^^
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ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
June 05 2012 17:04 GMT
#42
I really like your idea. It's so creative. On top of that it makes you think before posting, if you want to keep with your goal to improve the overall quality of your posts.
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
June 05 2012 17:13 GMT
#43
Heh thats cute. Cool idea!
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 05 2012 17:18 GMT
#44
On June 06 2012 00:38 Incognoto wrote:
Sometimes when I post I ask myself "is this worth posting?". 1 time out of 3 I just don't post it then. So I already kind of do this, except my jar is imaginary and also empty.


I don't understand why the fuck stupid, cunt assholes would use something as dumb as fuck as a swear jar though. Swearing is so colorful if used properly.

Edit: Oh wait I just understood the principle of the post jar. I still dislike the idea though simply because I'm sure that better quality posts could be achieved by simply asking the question "is this post going to add something meaningful to the discussion or not?"

I like the idea. It monetizes (thus quantifying) a subjective idea. Instead of asking your question before posting, the question he now needs to ask is "Am I willing to pay myself $1 for this post?" Assuming he's not dishonest to himself then I think this can go a long way into making his posts better. I, personally, would feel bad giving myself a dollar for a "quality post" if I'm only lying to myself.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 05 2012 20:04 GMT
#45
You should play TL Mafia, that will get you broke/rich in no time.
Computer says mafia
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
June 05 2012 20:05 GMT
#46
On June 06 2012 02:18 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:38 Incognoto wrote:
Sometimes when I post I ask myself "is this worth posting?". 1 time out of 3 I just don't post it then. So I already kind of do this, except my jar is imaginary and also empty.


I don't understand why the fuck stupid, cunt assholes would use something as dumb as fuck as a swear jar though. Swearing is so colorful if used properly.

Edit: Oh wait I just understood the principle of the post jar. I still dislike the idea though simply because I'm sure that better quality posts could be achieved by simply asking the question "is this post going to add something meaningful to the discussion or not?"

I like the idea. It monetizes (thus quantifying) a subjective idea. Instead of asking your question before posting, the question he now needs to ask is "Am I willing to pay myself $1 for this post?" Assuming he's not dishonest to himself then I think this can go a long way into making his posts better. I, personally, would feel bad giving myself a dollar for a "quality post" if I'm only lying to myself.


Good lord, you must be an engineer.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 05 2012 20:13 GMT
#47
On June 06 2012 05:05 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 02:18 garbanzo wrote:
On June 06 2012 00:38 Incognoto wrote:
Sometimes when I post I ask myself "is this worth posting?". 1 time out of 3 I just don't post it then. So I already kind of do this, except my jar is imaginary and also empty.


I don't understand why the fuck stupid, cunt assholes would use something as dumb as fuck as a swear jar though. Swearing is so colorful if used properly.

Edit: Oh wait I just understood the principle of the post jar. I still dislike the idea though simply because I'm sure that better quality posts could be achieved by simply asking the question "is this post going to add something meaningful to the discussion or not?"

I like the idea. It monetizes (thus quantifying) a subjective idea. Instead of asking your question before posting, the question he now needs to ask is "Am I willing to pay myself $1 for this post?" Assuming he's not dishonest to himself then I think this can go a long way into making his posts better. I, personally, would feel bad giving myself a dollar for a "quality post" if I'm only lying to myself.


Good lord, you must be an engineer.

Not sure what led you to that conclusion and reaction, but no, I'm not.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
June 06 2012 01:58 GMT
#48
Haha, that's brilliant.
I guess you will need to think twice before opening a LR thread then
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
June 06 2012 12:07 GMT
#49
Nerdery at it's best!
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
June 06 2012 14:00 GMT
#50
On June 06 2012 05:04 Palmar wrote:
You should play TL Mafia, that will get you broke/rich in no time.


Lol! Too true.

Good idea and GL on continuing on with it.
I'd love if you could post a 6-month review of how the jar turned out when you get there.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
June 06 2012 14:02 GMT
#51
hahaha great Idea, If I put every dollar for every post I made I'd have a hard time fitting money into the jar!
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
June 06 2012 16:28 GMT
#52
On June 05 2012 01:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
This is awesome, I wouldn't do it, but I think this is pretty practical beyond TL


But we'd have a new team sponsor!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6596 Posts
June 06 2012 16:35 GMT
#53
Stay away from the LR threads! hahaha gz on 1k
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iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
June 06 2012 23:46 GMT
#54
Hey love the idea dude real creative, 5/5 just because it's original
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 10:47:50
June 06 2012 23:58 GMT
#55
What if we ask R1CH to make this build-in to TL as a new way to fund TLPro?

1) Opt in TL Post Jar to fund TLPro
2) ???
3) Buy out the former oGs
Thank God and gunrun.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
June 07 2012 02:59 GMT
#56
On June 07 2012 08:58 Primadog wrote:
What if we ask R1CH to make this build-in to TL as a new way to fund TLPro?

1) Opt in to TL Post Jar to fund TLPro
2) ???
3) Buy out the former oGs

Think bigger.

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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 10:20:50
June 07 2012 10:00 GMT
#57
tortedelini should do that
and i should do it for every day im temp banned + every warning
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Woj
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
June 07 2012 13:05 GMT
#58
Neat idea! I may have to adopt this policy myself... =) Congrats on 1k!
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 09 2012 14:51 GMT
#59
On June 07 2012 19:00 teddyoojo wrote:
tortedelini should do that
and i should do it for every day im temp banned + every warning

Lol what....

Also, I'll never do this. Reason? I have a bank that I put $$$ in only when I've done good things. :3
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LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
June 09 2012 18:14 GMT
#60
On June 05 2012 04:19 zul wrote:
you`ll be rich when hitting the 10k post count


Unless he keeps buying them GSL/GSTL tickets and that headset ;D

Gratz on 1k posts btw ^_^
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 09 2012 18:24 GMT
#61
That's a really funny and creative idea I must admit, gl with that
AmorFatiAbyss
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
51 Posts
June 10 2012 02:11 GMT
#62
Pro tip: You care more about your own posting than anyone else on this site. Maybe more than everyone combined. I've made shit posts and I've made brilliant posts, and I haven't gotten a positive or negative return on either. Spammers like Torte actually see a better return than quality posters.
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
June 10 2012 07:30 GMT
#63
I like the idea about the jar and adding $1 to each extra post you make. And congrads on the 1000th post.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
June 11 2012 14:29 GMT
#64
I feel slightly bad posting "Awesome Idea" after reading this and you talking about quality posting, but I don't know what else to say so Awesome Idea man!
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 00:19:35
June 12 2012 00:12 GMT
#65
If you want to watch the GSL/GSTL, why don't you just buy a ticket? Have you never made that investment and just now have the self-fulfilling path to do so?
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 15 2012 13:10 GMT
#66
Awesome idea! And already 4$ in :>
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
June 20 2012 10:40 GMT
#67
Don't get banned
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