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On May 23 2012 00:55 Knap4life wrote:
I for one played diablo 3 just for the story, Not everyone is like "oh i want all the loot". I to be honest can't be bothered to grind through the same thing over and over and over again because there is no higher goal. So what happens than when you have the best gear?
The e-peen. I mean, if a hypothetical person doesn't give a damn about the gameplay and only bothers about the story, he might as well go read a book. Surely you admit you were interested in some aspects of the gameplay, although maybe less about grinding, which is a part of almost every RPG, or even every game.
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Wait there's an actual story to this franchise? You mean there's more to it than farming? Whoa mind blown.
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On May 23 2012 01:02 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:55 Knap4life wrote:
I for one played diablo 3 just for the story, Not everyone is like "oh i want all the loot". I to be honest can't be bothered to grind through the same thing over and over and over again because there is no higher goal. So what happens than when you have the best gear? The e-peen. I mean, if a hypothetical person doesn't give a damn about the gameplay and only bothers about the story, he might as well go read a book. Surely you admit you were interested in some aspects of the gameplay, although maybe less about grinding, which is a part of almost every RPG, or even every game.
Yes you are right , i played for one more reason besides the story and that is the visuals.The world and the monsters.I don't give two shits about gear.
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On May 23 2012 00:01 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 18:50 Sawamura wrote:On May 22 2012 18:37 silentreality wrote:
All I remember is..
"Stay a while and listen" For me it was Rakanishu !!!!! I remembered Bishibosh! I was so disappointed that Rakanishu made a re-appearance (at least I found his sword but not him yet), but not Bishibosh. Anyway most of these complaints are just nostalgia. D1 and D2 were lightyears ahead of the competition, while the competition is much more stiff for D3. If a player totally new to the Diablo series were to play these previous games, I'm pretty sure he'll go "Dafuq?"
I found Bishibosh, you just haven't looked good enough.
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If you want story, read a book. Just don't complain that the gameplay isn't fun.
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I'm sorry but I skipped a lot of posts so forgive me if someone's already mention this...
My biggest issue with Diablo III?
Why on Earth are Azmodan and Diablo so fucking vocal. Act 4 just drives me nuts because of Diablo constantly taunting you or the fact that you can somehow magically hear what he's telling his minions. For example the 2nd boss in Act 4. How exactly are you listening to his conversation with his minion? It's like a little kid decided to design this aspect of the game. You know what enjoyed about Diablo I and II? The Demons were mostly silent and you didn't learn a whole lot about them. There is sometimes greatness in silence and this game failed to aknowledge that. Now we're left with two act bosses who sound extremely insecure. "If you destroy my hell rift my demons will tear you apart!" - You destroy it. Nothing happens...
I can perfectly understand why Belial is vocal because it's his character. He's based on lies and malipulation.
It may seem like a minor complaint but christ it bothers me.
Few other complaints...
Why are the bosses so HUGE and "EPIC". I was thoroughly disappointed when I saw the butcher. They took my nostalgia and shit all over it.
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On May 23 2012 01:28 matiK23 wrote:
Wait there's an actual story to this franchise? You mean there's more to it than farming? Whoa mind blown.
This is taken from wiki
Background
The setting of Diablo includes the world of Sanctuary, as well as Heaven and Hell. After eons of war between angels and demons, the ascension of man prompted the three Lords of Hell (including Diablo himself) to seek victory through influence, prompting their exile into the mortal realm. There, they sowed chaos, distrust, and hatred among the humans of Sanctuary until a group of magi trapped them in soulstones. Diablo's soulstone was buried deep in the earth and a monastery was built over the site.
Generations passed and the purpose of the monastery was forgotten. A small town named Tristram sprang up next to the monastery's ruins. When King Leoric rebuilt the monastery as a cathedral, Diablo manipulated its archbishop to destroy his soulstone prison. Diablo subsequently possessed the king, sending out his knights and priests to battle against peaceful kingdoms, and then possessed the king's son, filling the caves and catacombs beneath the cathedral with creatures formed from the young boy's nightmares.
Tristram became a town of fear and horror, where people were abducted in the night. With no king, no law, and no army left to defend them, many villagers fled.[9]
[edit]Plot
The game starts when the player's character arrives in Tristram. The labyrinth under the Cathedral descends from a simple dungeon to catacombs to the dark caves and finally the fiery pits of Hell itself, each full of the undead, monsters, and demons. Leoric has been re-animated as the Skeleton King, and the hero must kill him so he can be released from his curse. The hero must also kill Archbishop Lazarus, and eventually fight Diablo himself.
At the end of the game the hero kills Diablo's mortal form, leaving Diablo trapped in a soulstone once again. The hero then drives the soulstone into his own skull in an attempt to contain the Lord of Terror. Diablo II continues the story, with Diablo having possessed the warrior hero who killed him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_(video_game)
I don't know what you are trying to do here but op has a point and I played diablo 1 and 2 there is a definitely a story line .So you have been playing diablo all the time and yet know nothing about aforementioned storyline and background that's happening ? that's great.
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On May 23 2012 02:04 Klockan3 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:01 Heh_ wrote:On May 22 2012 18:50 Sawamura wrote:On May 22 2012 18:37 silentreality wrote:
All I remember is..
"Stay a while and listen" For me it was Rakanishu !!!!! I remembered Bishibosh! I was so disappointed that Rakanishu made a re-appearance (at least I found his sword but not him yet), but not Bishibosh. Anyway most of these complaints are just nostalgia. D1 and D2 were lightyears ahead of the competition, while the competition is much more stiff for D3. If a player totally new to the Diablo series were to play these previous games, I'm pretty sure he'll go "Dafuq?" I found Bishibosh, you just haven't looked good enough.
Holy sheeeeeeeeeetttt!! Where did you find him? I gotta go say hi to him.
On May 23 2012 02:10 Krohm wrote:
I'm sorry but I skipped a lot of posts so forgive me if someone's already mention this...
My biggest issue with Diablo III?
Why on Earth are Azmodan and Diablo so fucking vocal. Act 4 just drives me nuts because of Diablo constantly taunting you or the fact that you can somehow magically hear what he's telling his minions. For example the 2nd boss in Act 4. How exactly are you listening to his conversation with his minion? It's like a little kid decided to design this aspect of the game. You know what enjoyed about Diablo I and II? The Demons were mostly silent and you didn't learn a whole lot about them. There is sometimes greatness in silence and this game failed to aknowledge that. Now we're left with two act bosses who sound extremely insecure. "If you destroy my hell rift my demons will tear you apart!" - You destroy it. Nothing happens...
I can perfectly understand why Belial is vocal because it's his character. He's based on lies and malipulation.
It may seem like a minor complaint but christ it bothers me.
Few other complaints...
Why are the bosses so HUGE and "EPIC". I was thoroughly disappointed when I saw the butcher. They took my nostalgia and shit all over it.
I have to agree with the taunting stuff. All the popups are so fucking annoying, especially Azmodan's because I can't hear what the heck he is mumbling. I've gotten into a habit of auto-pressing escape, I need to find out how to disable all npc chat (or someone can tell me =D) Worst part is the chat blocks the screen when you're fighting something. There's a million complaints about D3, but for some reason I never seen any comment about this haha.
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ive been watching alot of player streams, and gameplay looks unchanged from previous games. just gonna wait till it drops to 20. looking forward to guild wars 2 instead.
if it wasnt for nostalgia reasons, i probably wouldnt even buy it
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On May 23 2012 02:10 Krohm wrote:
I'm sorry but I skipped a lot of posts so forgive me if someone's already mention this...
My biggest issue with Diablo III?
Why on Earth are Azmodan and Diablo so fucking vocal. Act 4 just drives me nuts because of Diablo constantly taunting you or the fact that you can somehow magically hear what he's telling his minions. For example the 2nd boss in Act 4. How exactly are you listening to his conversation with his minion? It's like a little kid decided to design this aspect of the game. You know what enjoyed about Diablo I and II? The Demons were mostly silent and you didn't learn a whole lot about them. There is sometimes greatness in silence and this game failed to aknowledge that. Now we're left with two act bosses who sound extremely insecure. "If you destroy my hell rift my demons will tear you apart!" - You destroy it. Nothing happens...
I can perfectly understand why Belial is vocal because it's his character. He's based on lies and malipulation.
It may seem like a minor complaint but christ it bothers me.
Few other complaints...
Why are the bosses so HUGE and "EPIC". I was thoroughly disappointed when I saw the butcher. They took my nostalgia and shit all over it.
I had the same experience as you. The storyline seemed like it was trying WAY to hard to match some cliche over the top Hero VS. Bad guy, and then takes it to the extreme cheese factor of having the bosses talk to you like some bad saturday morning cartoon.
Another thing about bosses that really bothers me is that...
A. The bosses are all in their nice little rooms all by themselves, easy to engage and easy to kill. D2 bosses (bael and that other guy being the exception) were IN the dungeon, like right IN the shit. Mephisto and Diablo in D2 had these huge rooms they occupied with a shitload of underlings, most of the times champion or rare packs right in the room with them. Made it so much more imposing then just a boss room with a boss all alone , packaged up for you.
B. WTF are there health pools in the rooms with bosses for. The bosses are easy enough as is compared to the elite and champion packs, and it's downright insulting they think they need to add regenerating health pools in the room to garuantee that people will kill them.
I just think WoW has tooken over way too many design styles, there are some things they carry over to D3 that just make it a worse game and less Diablo, then the franchise has established. This game feels much less like a Diablo sequal and much more like World of Warcraft.....Diablo Edition.
That being said, I love the gameplay (minus the way bosses were handled and the way PVP is being handled) and have really no other complaints , everything is fluid, the combat is good, the skills/ spells are fun and I'm really enjoying the 'meat' of the game. It's just a shame that the story could not deliver the same style as previous diablo games. Instead it comes off very shallow and too 'try hard hero cliche".
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Sure Diablo 2 didn't have a good storyline but it wasn't constantly shoved down your throat either. In D3 Diablo, Azmodan, Maghda and who ever else are constantly appearing on your screen spewing endless lines of shitty dialogue at you.
If the focus of Diablo 3 isn't story fine but if that's the case then the development team screwed up by continually reminding you just how bad it is.
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Well I bought the game, I've played through it. I guess I can make an opinion now huh.
Some people like it, some people defend it with their lives. Good for you I'm glad you got your money's worth, I really do mean that, no hidden sarcasm. But I didn't like it at all. I took a risk, and got burned for it. This game isn't for everyone, and I was one of unfortunate ones who didn't enjoy the game as much as others have. Oh well sucks for me...
There, a negative opinion that shouldn't upset anyone right?
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On May 22 2012 18:50 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 18:37 silentreality wrote:
All I remember is..
"Stay a while and listen" For me it was Rakanishu !!!!!
I sense a soul in search for answers.
Greetings good master. Welcome to the Tavern of the Rising Sun!
Well, what can I do for ya?
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On May 23 2012 04:51 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 18:50 Sawamura wrote:On May 22 2012 18:37 silentreality wrote:
All I remember is..
"Stay a while and listen" For me it was Rakanishu !!!!! I sense a soul in search for answers. Greetings good master. Welcome to the Tavern of the Rising Sun! Well, what can I do for ya?
..... be right back re-installing diablo 2....
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Hmmmm. It seems I would be more inclined to agree with your review should I have a guest pass pmed to me..
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On May 23 2012 04:51 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 18:50 Sawamura wrote:On May 22 2012 18:37 silentreality wrote:
All I remember is..
"Stay a while and listen" For me it was Rakanishu !!!!! I sense a soul in search for answers. Greetings good master. Welcome to the Tavern of the Rising Sun! Well, what can I do for ya?
You have quite a treasure there...
You have done very well....
Hail to you, Champion...
Those stick out to me so much and I don't know why.
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On May 23 2012 13:44 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 04:51 moopie wrote:On May 22 2012 18:50 Sawamura wrote:On May 22 2012 18:37 silentreality wrote:
All I remember is..
"Stay a while and listen" For me it was Rakanishu !!!!! I sense a soul in search for answers. Greetings good master. Welcome to the Tavern of the Rising Sun! Well, what can I do for ya? ..... be right back re-installing diablo 2....
U know those quotes are from Diablo 1 right? -_-
Quote 1 is Adria,
Quote 2 is.. crap how do you spell his name?... Ogden! the inn keeper.
Quote 3 is griswald, the boss blacksmith who saved wirt, minus a leg.
I love diablo 1, replayed it again before D3 dropped.
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Never played D2, but I can feel a lot of what OP is saying. I feel like Blizzard has taken a dive off the deep end after TFT and hasn't recoverred since. Quite a sad situation really. 
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Can someone tell me how Cain fixed Tyreal's sword without the cube? Actually where is the cube?
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On May 22 2012 13:57 m3rciless wrote:
Have you even played D2? Did it have 'substantive characters'? I dont even remember which npcs had scripted dialog, because I DIDNT GIVE A FUCK.
No one sits in the rogues encampment chatting with fucking npcs, this isnt mass effect.
I did. I enjoyed the story. I also liked the tiny jungle pygmies running around with voodoo masks. And which npcs were copulating in D2? I missed that part.
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