EPTI like playing this game, I like watching it, if the other people who like playing and watching it want it to be an esport, let them at it. I like video games.
I hate esports. - Page 19
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Thaniri
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I like playing this game, I like watching it, if the other people who like playing and watching it want it to be an esport, let them at it. I like video games. | ||
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Logan_ps
United Kingdom118 Posts
I'm 40. No where near quick witted enough, or devoted enough, to excel and play a game at a hugely competitive level. When I play games (every single day), I play for the fun of the game, mental stimulation and a chilled pleasure. I enjoy a little low level competitive play - mixes in Counter Strike, Laddering on Sc2, Teaming up with mates for LoL or Dota2, and far too many hours of fun filled TF2 with my community friends. I enjoyed your post as it was well written and makes a point. However, I have no difficulty with the idea that some play games to a far more skilled level than I do - and I enjoy watching them do so a great deal. Far more than I ever enjoyed Track or Field based sports. If it takes commercialisation to ensure that I can continue to watch high level players - who can afford to live off their gaming skills due to a growth in advertisement and professionalism, then so be it. Damn, if I could make a modest living of doing anything gaming related, I'd jump at the chance. I fail to see how it's too hard to separate the two. I do hate witch hunts though. If someone wants to behave in a way that bothers me, it's pretty simple to ignore him/her and leave them to it. If ignorance is their issue - however it manifests itself, then I'm pretty sure they'll either learn from mistakes and profit, or fail to learn from mistakes and, well, make more mistakes. Who are we (the gaming public) to lecture and teach, without invitation. And yes. I may have misunderstood your point. I have a tendancy to be a bit slow when doing anything other than gaming  | ||
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supdubdup
United States916 Posts
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JoshuaGD
United States13 Posts
Plus with SA I get really adorable emoticons, | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
Have you ever learned about more modern nationalism? It's basically picking a group on the internet and using it as your religion. eSports=Starcraft Nationalism=yell "for eSports" and kick orb out of his job for no reason. The world is a stupid place. I agree. I just like to think that the majority of people on this website are smart. Look at the staff of teamliquid. When TL is too busy to load and it says "Someone is killing ESPORTS" I laugh a little to myself. Because ESPORTS is the word used because we got tired of saying we need to grow professional starcraft. It shouldn't be some religion, and it shouldn't be used to justify stupidity. This leads me to my last point. MLG's PPV. I actually find it worth it to watch, with the games and storylines being satisfying for me. I couldn't understand this guy who just posted "I will never pay money for starcraft, I will only watch it for free". But seeing you write this shows me the true value the BW community has, that I have as well, even though I'm a starcraft 2 fan. We want to see good games for our own entertainment as a hobby, and they are good games because they are good and they are entertaining because they are. We don't need to debate if it is entertaining, or fun, or if we should swear about it. Just exist. There's tradeoffs to progress, and the growth of esports is certainly no exception. You shine a light on some of the values we have lost along the way, a subject that does not get enough of the attention it deserves! | ||
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pestilenz
Denmark379 Posts
I don't agree with you, and I think you are exaggerating your opinion. I know what your idea of the post was, but ranting like this is never the best way to go around. Hope you will continue making bronze thingies, they were fun. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
I somewhat agree, but I want to know what exactly forced you to post this. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
I play Starcraft 2 for its competitive nature even though I'm quite awful at it, I keep on playing becaues it's a fun game. I can't in any way, shape or form relate to your post threadstarter, and I hope I never will. | ||
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Destriel
41 Posts
if you've lost your love or cant ignore the parts you hate (there will ALWAYS be parts you hate), just move on. | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
You are a bad person! | ||
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Grimskov
Greece41 Posts
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LF9
United States537 Posts
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keioh
France1099 Posts
Community forum does that to people. While I disagree with the general tone of your post and I hope that ESPORTS will become greater, I can definitely understand why you wrote it. I have the same reaction when I get to read Football results and stupidly begin to read comments on those results. This is the sad yet obligatory part of a growing "hobby", and I understand it can crush your joy for it, so much that you hope for it to disappear. | ||
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Bap181
France13 Posts
I agree with you, I agree with you so fucking hard my agreement erection could destroy cities and topple empires. However, I wouldnt blame starcraft, I wouldnt blame the game we all mostly love. Theres still fun in Starcraft II, you just have to sift past the bullshit. I call people whatever I want on ladder when i'm mad, I go mass thor in 3v3, I'll laugh so hard on skype with friends when we play and do stupid shit like attacking ourselfs in team games (we once did 4v4 full worker rush and I was all like fucking supreme commander all over that shit, you have no idea how fun that was, "THIS MOTHERFUCKER HAS A MARINE OUT SHIT SHIT SHIT"). I'll go Bio in TvT because its funner than waiting 20 minutes moving up 1 tank at a time, I'll go sky terran in TvP because its fucking cool. I'll rush battlecruisers on 1 base because 11/11 bunker harass is just too much hassle. And you know what, tournaments are cool as well, I do enjoy watching good play, I'll never tire of Wheat/Day9 casting an MLG final. I enjoy listening to destiny play and rage, let him call people whatever he wants to call them, I dont give a shit what you have to say, I'm not interested in youre 150 page threadnoughts and youre pathetic arguments, but I know I have a good time when I watch Destiny and thats enough for me. I've never bought "nerd swag", I've only gone to thehandsomenerd to crash it, and I've never bough any kind of sub/HD pass in my life. Why? Because fuck you and fuck youre esports thats why, I dont give a shit, I play this game to have fun. If it all becomes PPV or sub based? Fuck it, I wont watch tournaments. I'll do something else, my life doesnt revolve around Starcraft II or esports so dont make me sacrifice my SCII fun for youre bullshit. If I want to call someone a faggot on ladder, youre damn right I'm gonna do it, because if that guys beng a faggot he needs to be told, and thats how it should be. I guess my point is, Starcraft II is still fun, I enjoy it, I still strive to become better but never by sacrificing fun, if I'm forced to sacrifice fun for the esports altar, then fuck that shit, I'll play some World of Tanks Or Eve Online. Eve Online, theres a game where the community arnt fucking faggots all the time. | ||
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Mord
Norway171 Posts
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ohsea.toc
Australia344 Posts
On May 03 2012 17:15 Bap181 wrote: Fuck it, I wont watch tournaments. I'll do something else, my life doesnt revolve around Starcraft II or esports so dont make me sacrifice my SCII fun for youre bullshit. If I want to call someone a faggot on ladder, youre damn right I'm gonna do it, because if that guys beng a faggot he needs to be told, and thats how it should be. I think this epitomises the lunacy in this thread. Such absurd vitriol. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
To me it's all about fairness. I've grown up my entire life with video games being my hobby of choice and being shunned by society for it. That has NEVER dampened my dedication to it. But to finally see an opportunity for me to no longer have to hide what I am doing and to be proud of it and to pursue a potential career in supporting that to me is exciting! Why should activities I couldn't care less about be put on television and make people excited and yet the game I'm playing that is exciting, in depth and competitive be something that is played behind closed doors and only for fun? Here's the problem I think you have Gheed. You are feeling insecure about your own hobby becoming something that is more than just something you play for fun. Guess what? No one is FORCING you to play Starcraft for a reason other than having fun. I play basketball on weekends with my friends for fun, I play chess for fun, I play poker to win some side cash but mostly to have fun. Just because there is a huge professional league for each of those activities doesn't mean that I can't still play those games for fun and nothing else. E-sports is no different. The advocates are not FORCING you to be as enthusiastic about it as we are, and we are not forcing you to stop playing starcraft for fun. All we're doing is promoting the competitive side of video games to make them as legitimate of a competition as poker, as golf and as athletic sports in general. It's a matter of fairness, if you don't care then don't care. But don't act like we're hurting your life in some way with blogs like this. | ||
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koldkilla205
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