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Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
May 03 2012 08:39 GMT
#381
This blog goes out to all the hipsters out there who are too underground for ESPORTS.

If all this esports shit is making you mad I have a solution for you don't; go to TL anymore, just play Starcraft or whatever game you want to play. I guess writing edgy blogs is just too good to pass up now that you can get featured for it.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
May 03 2012 08:48 GMT
#382
On May 03 2012 17:39 Snorkle wrote:
This blog goes out to all the hipsters out there who are too underground for ESPORTS.

If all this esports shit is making you mad I have a solution for you don't; go to TL anymore, just play Starcraft or whatever game you want to play. I guess writing edgy blogs is just too good to pass up now that you can get featured for it.


I was going to actually use the word "hipster" in my post but I decided against it but it definitely does feel that way.

I really don't understand these people who resist anything that starts to gain popularity as if its somehow losing its integrity. I really don't understand that mentality at all.

If you love doing something, share it. Don't keep it to yourself, and don't whine and complain when other people want to share it or promote it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Mord
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway171 Posts
May 03 2012 09:35 GMT
#383
On May 03 2012 17:37 koldkilla205 wrote:
+1 I wouldn't say I hate e-sports, but I really feel you gheed. I can say I have enjoyed the game alot more when I DONT read posts from pro fanboys or how we need to "support e-sports". I was just here to get builds and thoughts on banshee timings against various races and saw your blog and I couldnt help myself. Now its time for me to leave before I get sucked back into the World of Bullshit that is called "e-sports".



There's a simple solution to this problem of yours, stick to the "strategy" forum.
LamaMitHut
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 09:43:11
May 03 2012 09:38 GMT
#384
i do not see any problem with esport. soccer, basketball, baseball, chess and so on are sports, too, but we can still have our fun playing it @ noob level.

so where is your damn problem? you do not HAVE to care about esport, just hf playing the game, and _stop taking this thing too serious_.
Jeenyus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States109 Posts
May 03 2012 10:00 GMT
#385
On May 02 2012 10:40 1Eris1 wrote:
Probably the first blog I have read that I actually agree 100% with every single word.


Exactly.
Ganzi, Heart, Nada, coL <3 Keen,DRG,Naniwa
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1696 Posts
May 03 2012 10:11 GMT
#386
On May 03 2012 17:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 17:39 Snorkle wrote:
This blog goes out to all the hipsters out there who are too underground for ESPORTS.

If all this esports shit is making you mad I have a solution for you don't; go to TL anymore, just play Starcraft or whatever game you want to play. I guess writing edgy blogs is just too good to pass up now that you can get featured for it.


I was going to actually use the word "hipster" in my post but I decided against it but it definitely does feel that way.

I really don't understand these people who resist anything that starts to gain popularity as if its somehow losing its integrity. I really don't understand that mentality at all.

If you love doing something, share it. Don't keep it to yourself, and don't whine and complain when other people want to share it or promote it.

LOL because the way it's being grown intrinsically devalues a unique, community driven industry which we had come to love and be a part of. Not because it's getting popular. FYI, have you ever heard of StarCraft BroodWar? You've got some serious guts coming and telling us that it isn't popular. Even now, its problems don't stem from lack of popularity. The scene was something genuinely special and unique which is now being aggressively invaded, marketed to hell and changed beyond recognition. There's also a very good chance that it can now never change back, to something which was huge, and popular, but built on a very different basis from the corporate cash-in quickfixes we see rife in "esports" now.

And you lot come in and tell us to GTFO, or deal with it? It's ridiculous, because you don't know half the story.
EleGant[AoV]
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 10:30:57
May 03 2012 10:28 GMT
#387
On May 03 2012 19:11 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 17:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 03 2012 17:39 Snorkle wrote:
This blog goes out to all the hipsters out there who are too underground for ESPORTS.

If all this esports shit is making you mad I have a solution for you don't; go to TL anymore, just play Starcraft or whatever game you want to play. I guess writing edgy blogs is just too good to pass up now that you can get featured for it.


I was going to actually use the word "hipster" in my post but I decided against it but it definitely does feel that way.

I really don't understand these people who resist anything that starts to gain popularity as if its somehow losing its integrity. I really don't understand that mentality at all.

If you love doing something, share it. Don't keep it to yourself, and don't whine and complain when other people want to share it or promote it.

LOL because the way it's being grown intrinsically devalues a unique, community driven industry which we had come to love and be a part of. Not because it's getting popular. FYI, have you ever heard of StarCraft BroodWar? You've got some serious guts coming and telling us that it isn't popular. Even now, its problems don't stem from lack of popularity. The scene was something genuinely special and unique which is now being aggressively invaded, marketed to hell and changed beyond recognition. There's also a very good chance that it can now never change back, to something which was huge, and popular, but built on a very different basis from the corporate cash-in quickfixes we see rife in "esports" now.

And you lot come in and tell us to GTFO, or deal with it? It's ridiculous, because you don't know half the story.


I bought Starcraft in 1998. and Brood war as soon as it came out. I remember watching the trailer for Brood War when it was first released and getting incredibly hyped up over it.

I'm well aware of the scene that developed later but it was still no more than an underground movement outside of Korea. INSIDE of Korea it was just as marketable as SC2 is in the West.

You were in love with a scene that almost didn't exist outside of Korea and now that Western e-sports is catching up to what Korea HAS been, it's making you angry.

Also, in what part of my post did I start bashing the BW community? I love the BW community. I don't enjoy this disdain they have for SC2 but I love their community.

Your being so hyper defensive is your problem, don't start assuming I'm bashing something that i'm not.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
LamaMitHut
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 10:54:44
May 03 2012 10:52 GMT
#388
The scene was something genuinely special and unique which is now being aggressively invaded, marketed to hell and changed beyond recognition.


dafuq i just read?

there are hundreds of sc2 fun events where nobody cares about money or viewer numbers, and mlg/kespa/greetech can´t change that. so what is the problem? okay, some guys just want to be like a unique snowflake, but i think this is silly.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 13:53:25
May 03 2012 12:19 GMT
#389
On May 03 2012 19:28 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 19:11 ImbaTosS wrote:
On May 03 2012 17:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 03 2012 17:39 Snorkle wrote:
This blog goes out to all the hipsters out there who are too underground for ESPORTS.

If all this esports shit is making you mad I have a solution for you don't; go to TL anymore, just play Starcraft or whatever game you want to play. I guess writing edgy blogs is just too good to pass up now that you can get featured for it.


I was going to actually use the word "hipster" in my post but I decided against it but it definitely does feel that way.

I really don't understand these people who resist anything that starts to gain popularity as if its somehow losing its integrity. I really don't understand that mentality at all.

If you love doing something, share it. Don't keep it to yourself, and don't whine and complain when other people want to share it or promote it.

LOL because the way it's being grown intrinsically devalues a unique, community driven industry which we had come to love and be a part of. Not because it's getting popular. FYI, have you ever heard of StarCraft BroodWar? You've got some serious guts coming and telling us that it isn't popular. Even now, its problems don't stem from lack of popularity. The scene was something genuinely special and unique which is now being aggressively invaded, marketed to hell and changed beyond recognition. There's also a very good chance that it can now never change back, to something which was huge, and popular, but built on a very different basis from the corporate cash-in quickfixes we see rife in "esports" now.

And you lot come in and tell us to GTFO, or deal with it? It's ridiculous, because you don't know half the story.


I bought Starcraft in 1998. and Brood war as soon as it came out. I remember watching the trailer for Brood War when it was first released and getting incredibly hyped up over it.

I'm well aware of the scene that developed later but it was still no more than an underground movement outside of Korea. INSIDE of Korea it was just as marketable as SC2 is in the West.

You were in love with a scene that almost didn't exist outside of Korea and now that Western e-sports is catching up to what Korea HAS been, it's making you angry.

Also, in what part of my post did I start bashing the BW community? I love the BW community. I don't enjoy this disdain they have for SC2 but I love their community.

Your being so hyper defensive is your problem, don't start assuming I'm bashing something that i'm not.


Catching up? The Western scene is going in a different direction than that of Korea. Disdain? It goes both ways my man.

I would love to hear your thoughts on other titles that aren't SC2. This whole notion doesn't hold true for the vast majority.

You can call people out for being defensive all you want, but at the end of the day a lot of the guys who I see cheering on SC2 show just as much disdain for games that aren't their game.

Do see where I'm going with this?

There is a parallel here between games and sports.

A cricket player isn't necessarily going to like baseball.

Just like rugby players won't necessarily like American football.

There is nothing hipster about this mentality at all. It's simple logic.
yuengLing
Profile Joined March 2012
52 Posts
May 03 2012 12:20 GMT
#390
On May 02 2012 15:28 whatusername wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 15:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Agreed completely, fuck Esports.

Remember when we were all amused when SKT made an English website with the word 'Esportainment' because noone took Esports seriously. If only we knew then how the term would get hijacked.


The sad thing is I doubt most people today on these boards know what SKT is.


Why is this sad?lol Is it really upsetting that people didn't play BW. Should we learn the history of starcraft before we play it?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 12:25:34
May 03 2012 12:22 GMT
#391
If you're interested in something usually you do your homework before spouting out bullshit and ignorant posts. Unfortunately there are a lot of those people who try to chime in when they know absolute shit.

That is sad and pathetic.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#392
On May 03 2012 15:28 Belial88 wrote:
What sparked you to post this?

I somewhat agree, but I want to know what exactly forced you to post this.


I think he got set off by the Destiny thread and the posts in that thread. It's somewhere in his nested comment in the OP.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 03 2012 13:30 GMT
#393
On May 03 2012 21:20 yuengLing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 15:28 whatusername wrote:
On May 02 2012 15:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Agreed completely, fuck Esports.

Remember when we were all amused when SKT made an English website with the word 'Esportainment' because noone took Esports seriously. If only we knew then how the term would get hijacked.


The sad thing is I doubt most people today on these boards know what SKT is.


Why is this sad?lol Is it really upsetting that people didn't play BW. Should we learn the history of starcraft before we play it?

Just like every other thread, this is degenerating into a SC2 vs BW argument. Like it or not, computer games have a limited lifespan. Just as how BW is fading into oblivion, SC2 will eventually fall to the same fate. Move along guys...
=Þ
Clandrone
Profile Joined February 2011
9 Posts
May 03 2012 13:34 GMT
#394
Gheed, then don't support ESports. Just go hide in your home, ignore the rest of the community, play your games and be happy. No wait, maybe you are right. Maybe it's all for naught. We should just ignore a lot of good peoples hard work to get gamers some real money for putting in some extra effort into something they love. We should just tear down the framework that thousands of passionate people have worked tirelessly to build and are continuing to support. We should just piss in the face of business who are actually showing an interest in supporting games. And people who believe that other people should act with respect and integrity towards others, even in a gaming setting, should just go to hell. Fuck them all.

Fuck you, Gheed. I wouldn't be so mad at your blog if it wasn't so arrogant. Yes, there are shit heads out there that take things too seriously and toss up shit storms about non-issues just to get a reaction, but you know what, that's just what you're doing too. Way to be the bigger person. You're like a little child who stomps his feet and throws a tantrum when something changes that they don't like. I'm sorry things are not going the way you want, but that doesn't mean they're bad. I'm sorry you fear change and I pity you. Get over it.

Yeah, people will hate me for posting this, but I just I had to just get that off my chest. I guess I'm just like you Gheed.

User was warned for this post
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
May 03 2012 14:50 GMT
#395
I'm sure that was cathartic for you. Its pretty easy and meaningless to hate on buzzwords.

Guess what? I'm betting that those sponsers are maybe, juuust maybe, targeting my demographic: 20 somethings with a passion for gaming and large disposable incomes.

I hope starcraft 2 grows but for only 2 reasons:
- there are many potential fans who could become actual fans that I would enjoy chatting about matches and players I care about
- the larger the community -> the larger the prize pools -> the more talent can be drawn in and cultivated efficiently -> I get to see the game played at a higher level than if just few thousand nerds really cared about and supported the handful of talent that the game drew in organically.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Clandrone
Profile Joined February 2011
9 Posts
May 03 2012 15:12 GMT
#396
Wait... I was warned for my response to a blog that was posted with the same spite, whining, and derogatory terms as the blog itself and yet the blog poster wasn't warned.

Can we get a little consistency please.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
May 03 2012 15:14 GMT
#397
On May 04 2012 00:12 Clandrone wrote:
Wait... I was warned for my response to a blog that was posted with the same spite, whining, and derogatory terms as the blog itself and yet the blog poster wasn't warned.

Can we get a little consistency please.

Nah, Gheed's cool
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Clandrone
Profile Joined February 2011
9 Posts
May 03 2012 15:15 GMT
#398
On May 04 2012 00:14 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:12 Clandrone wrote:
Wait... I was warned for my response to a blog that was posted with the same spite, whining, and derogatory terms as the blog itself and yet the blog poster wasn't warned.

Can we get a little consistency please.

Nah, Gheed's cool


lol
Schandro
Profile Joined May 2011
57 Posts
May 03 2012 15:25 GMT
#399
You are hating esports? fine, go away, we wont miss you.
Nokshalees
Profile Joined March 2012
United States120 Posts
May 03 2012 15:32 GMT
#400
You're an awful person for hating #esports

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